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Shoot your Offshore Hosting

Hello,

This is 2022, I'm looking for reliable and good offshore hosting.
Anyone using them? Can someone review it? I don't want to buy something without seeing all feedback and know that is good and bad.

I'm looking for dmca ignored dedicated servers and VPS.

If you have any company (can't be outside EU!) requirements will be analyzed in near future.
The requirement that is important need to be in Europe and DMCA Ignored for Extreme Right purposes.

Thank you

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  • risharderisharde Patron Provider, Veteran

    Is this a feds honeypot lol

    Thanked by 3bulbasaur lazyt kalipus
  • Shoot your Offshore Hosting

    Could you lend me a gun for this?

    Thanked by 2AlwaysSkint james50a
  • HostGator and all EIGs

  • ehabehab Member
    edited February 2022

    vay vay KA

  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 2022

    I hear alot good about UnderGroundPrivate.com on some other forum.
    And PrivateAlps.net

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    This is 2022, and there are still people asking for offass webhosting.

    Amatuers.

    Thanked by 1AlwaysSkint
  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Patron Provider
  • @HostMT3 said:
    Hello,

    This is 2022, I'm looking for reliable and good offshore hosting.
    Anyone using them? Can someone review it? I don't want to buy something without seeing all feedback and know that is good and bad.

    I'm looking for dmca ignored dedicated servers and VPS.

    If you have any company (can't be outside EU!) requirements will be analyzed in near future.
    The requirement that is important need to be in Europe and DMCA Ignored for Extreme Right purposes.

    Thank you

    What hosts have you used in the past? How was your experience? Why do you need to look for a new host?

  • Well that depend of your budget, you don't mention that.. That is really important because there are many offshore providers expensive out there.

    Some of them (read carefully their AUP / TOS page)
    https://www.privatelayer.com/dedicated-servers.php
    https://alexhost.com/dedicated-servers/
    http://www.2x4.ru/index.php?pid=71
    https://www.novogara.com
    https://www.incognet.io (new in the scene, but doing a great job and stuff)
    https://buyvm.net (good luck buddy to get server from them)
    https://xor.sc (expensive, hope you don't pee)
    https://njal.la

    HostSlick already commented, they are also considered offshore...

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • jahrincjahrinc Member
    edited February 2022

    @sandoz said: they are also considered offshore

    Add spectraip to the list, same as sibyl

  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    @sandoz said: https://www.incognet.io (new in the scene, but doing a great job and stuff)

    Thank you for the suggestion. We're the only worker-owned, bootstrapped, privacy focused service provider. We're small but we aim to please.

  • @HostMT3 said:
    The requirement that is important need to be in Europe and DMCA Ignored for Extreme Right purposes.

    Thank you

    Are the extreme right taking on copyright laws or something?

  • @MannDude said:

    @sandoz said: https://www.incognet.io (new in the scene, but doing a great job and stuff)

    Thank you for the suggestion. We're the only worker-owned, bootstrapped, privacy focused service provider. We're small but we aim to please.

    ...and so far premium.

  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 2022

    @sandoz said: HostSlick already commented, they are also considered offshore...

    Always good to talk with us before regarding your project to prevent mis-understandings.

    BUT NOT if you want DMCA ignored because you dont understand anything and one month later Police with a court order seizing your dedicated server for hacking estonia government or license tax evasion (yes both happen before).
    Annoying.

    We do NOT allow:

    • Child Porn / Revenge Porn sites
    • Malware related
    • Scam Sites, Phishing or related such as Fraud.
    • Forgery / Spoofing (right, will not work anyway)
    • Anything against dutch law.
      ( Like everyone else: - Abusive behavior. (ex: Support abuse, too much noise.) )
    Thanked by 1warih
  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 2022

    Looks like only this range who also has Cogent and is in other Datacenter then all others. Will fix So we don't get abused by assholes and abortions on that one

    Thanks

    EDIT: NOC is aware now

    Thanked by 1twiigl
  • @HostMT3 said:
    Shoot your Offshore Hosting

    No. Why would I shoot them ? That’s a gross and inappropriate way to get double bandwidth.

    Thanked by 1steny
  • LOL what a noob. You know this is 2022 right? Most of Europe has much stronger anti-piracy laws compared to the US, and most don't simultaneously have free speech laws.

    If you want true DMCA-ignored hosting you need a company head-quartered in either Malaysia or the Netherlands with servers located there and you want them to explicitly be a DMCA-ignored host (e.g. orangewebsite.com). But that doesn't mean your audience will be able to see your website if gets blocked in other countries which is exactly what is likely to happen with a large site pirating content.

    For free speech you're looking for countries like Norway, Iceland, Netherlands, or Switzerland. Note that the only on both lists is Netherlands, and the company has to be head-quartered and have their servers there or your protections that you think your website/server has is redundant.

    The Pirate Bay to my understanding is only up because it is co-located at PRQ directly by its owner, there is no webhost to go after. If it was hosted by PRQ it could be shut down. Datacentres aren't responsible for co-located servers, at least not in Sweden, and again please don't take my analysis as a guarantee.

  • Every offshore hoster says yes no spam and scam etc.

    Let's ask frankly which hosters allow spam and scam ?

  • @Aractus said:
    LOL what a noob. You know this is 2022 right? Most of Europe has much stronger anti-piracy laws compared to the US, and most don't simultaneously have free speech laws.

    If you want true DMCA-ignored hosting you need a company head-quartered in either Malaysia or the Netherlands with servers located there and you want them to explicitly be a DMCA-ignored host (e.g. orangewebsite.com). But that doesn't mean your audience will be able to see your website if gets blocked in other countries which is exactly what is likely to happen with a large site pirating content.

    For free speech you're looking for countries like Norway, Iceland, Netherlands, or Switzerland. Note that the only on both lists is Netherlands, and the company has to be head-quartered and have their servers there or your protections that you think your website/server has is redundant.

    The Pirate Bay to my understanding is only up because it is co-located at PRQ directly by its owner, there is no webhost to go after. If it was hosted by PRQ it could be shut down. Datacentres aren't responsible for co-located servers, at least not in Sweden, and again please don't take my analysis as a guarantee.

    Wrong.

    1) Anti-Piracy groups most of them are from US, if you read Torrentfreak daily you will understand that, most court orders, most initiatives comes from US/UK. It is no coincidence that they now work with homeland security.

    Source: Torrentfreak

    Piratebay was used PRQ in the past and they have been raided in Sweden.
    Source: Wikipedia

    In terms of Freedom of Speech, I would agree with US is a good country but there are others.

    In fact, most of rules and takedowns comes from US.

  • @sandoz said: https://xor.sc (expensive, hope you don't pee)

    This one have the nicest UI/UX I ever encountered. Clean, fast and to the point. Prices are bigger then prq.se...

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • edited February 2022

    @sandoz said:
    Well that depend of your budget, you don't mention that.. That is really important because there are many offshore providers expensive out there.

    Some of them (read carefully their AUP / TOS page)
    https://www.privatelayer.com/dedicated-servers.php
    https://alexhost.com/dedicated-servers/
    http://www.2x4.ru/index.php?pid=71
    https://www.novogara.com
    https://www.incognet.io (new in the scene, but doing a great job and stuff)
    https://buyvm.net (good luck buddy to get server from them)
    https://xor.sc (expensive, hope you don't pee)
    https://njal.la

    HostSlick already commented, they are also considered offshore...

    @sandoz, in your experience, who from your list maintains quality while being very budget friendly?

    Does @terrahost ignore some DMCA's and thus qualifies as an Offshore host? (Norway being a non-EU country that can ignore GDPR) @RobMonster.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Offshore_Solutions said:
    (Norway being a non-EU country that can ignore GDPR)

    Norway is an EEA country and as such, GDPR applies.

    Anyway this thread is full of clueless contributions and even suggestions of mafia-affiliated hosts, something which has nothing to do with ignoring copyright abuse or free speech.

  • HostMT3HostMT3 Member
    edited February 2022

    @risharde said:
    Is this a feds honeypot lol

    Sure, I will knock knock your doors very soon.

  • risharderisharde Patron Provider, Veteran

    @HostMT3 said:

    @risharde said:
    Is this a feds honeypot lol

    Sure, I will knock knock your doors very soon.

    You'll probably have better luck with other forum members (cough providers) but you need to search a little bit. This is not one of those topics providers will like to go into details about in a publicly search indexed forum.

    Thanked by 1Offshore_Solutions
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited February 2022

    How do you do, fellow white nationalists? Let's storm the capitol and cause some chaos. Meet me in the van outside.

    Sincerely,

    Not FBI

    (Obligatory this post is a joke and feds have to stay off my lawn)

  • @Nyr said:

    @Offshore_Solutions said:
    (Norway being a non-EU country that can ignore GDPR)

    Norway is an EEA country and as such, GDPR applies.

    Anyway this thread is full of clueless contributions and even suggestions of mafia-affiliated hosts, something which has nothing to do with ignoring copyright abuse or free speech.

    You are saying that @MannDude is MAFIA?
    Lets understand one thing, DMCA is a stupid law. What kind of crime are something doing if is ONLY linking to 3rd file hosting?

    You are trying to put everyone in the same basket of eggs. That isn't cool at all..

    By the way the ONLY MAFIA out there is MPA, ACE, RIAA instead of fighting phishing / Fraud (or that isn't copyrighted? Someone doing the same website of bank and trying to steal)

    I didn't any action of that.. is only piracy that matters from them? Guess what, is what give Money to them..

    I support freedom of speech, you can come here and say whatever you want. Everyone have different opinions, visions, other way of seeing things. What you agree, can be what I don't agree.

    I hope you get my point, because you are calling providers like incognet, buyvm and others that may host controversial websites MAFIA.

    In fact, they are doing something for society. That you seems unable to understand, not now and also in near future...

  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    @sandoz said:

    @Nyr said:

    @Offshore_Solutions said:
    (Norway being a non-EU country that can ignore GDPR)

    Norway is an EEA country and as such, GDPR applies.

    Anyway this thread is full of clueless contributions and even suggestions of mafia-affiliated hosts, something which has nothing to do with ignoring copyright abuse or free speech.

    You are saying that @MannDude is MAFIA?

    I didn't read it like that. I just assumed he was referring to some other host in the list. 🤷‍♂️

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited February 2022

    @sandoz said: You are saying that @MannDude is MAFIA?

    I am pretty sure he is not.

    @sandoz said: You are trying to put everyone in the same basket of eggs.

    No, I am not. In your list of suggestions there are hosts owned by very nice people and hosts linked to organized crime.

    @sandoz said: In fact, they are doing something for society.

    Well... it is an interesting and respectable point of view. Maybe a few of them, it depends on who you ask. I could kind of agree in some particular cases, yeah.

  • @Nyr said:

    @sandoz said: You are saying that @MannDude is MAFIA?

    I am pretty sure he is not.

    @sandoz said: You are trying to put everyone in the same basket of eggs.

    No, I am not. In your list of suggestions there are hosts owned by very nice people and hosts linked to organized crime.

    @sandoz said: In fact, they are doing something for society.

    Well... it is an interesting and respectable point of view. Maybe a few of them, it depends on who you ask. I could kind of agree in some particular cases, yeah.

    You are probably saying about Novogara. In fact they don't are bad at all.. Of course CP is something different and is not cool.

    But Novogara isn't a criminal organization in my opinion, If they are Guess GoDaddy and many others?

    Novogara is like Cyberbunker. Glad to see that hostings exists.

    I willn't extend more about it. Everyone have their way to see.

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