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How to make money with a lot of servers?

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  • If you have a "lot of servers" and want to make money while avoiding all of this tech nonsense, depending on their condition, why not open a restaurant? I'm just spitballing here, but you could call it Booters.

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  • You don't, that is illegal

  • @RedSox said:

    @Boogeyman said:

    @gapper said: You mean a platform for mining? I'm a bit confused, could you please make an example or explain a bit more please?

    Platform for anything that have a potential market, should be unique. You can't build another Facebook. That won't work.

    Pavel Durov says hello to you.

    When's his movie out?

  • I only know how to make servers with a lot of money.

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  • Mining is worth it only for the whales (large net worth individuals) most of the time. The average person is better off just staking, lending or providing liquidity in DeFi, and then selling everything at BTC and ETH tops.

    Sorted by risk-reward:

    1/10:
    Roughly 20% APY on UST in Anchor, on Terra blockchain. UST is a coin pegged to USD. TVL (Total Value Locked) is in billions of dollars.

    3/10:
    Buy BTC (~49k USD) and ETH (~3.9k) now, sell all by 140k (2.85x) and 14k (3.58x) respectively.

    6/10:
    1. Buy and stake TShare (Tomb Finance) on FTM blockchain (7x possible). Use grim.finance for auto-compounding.
    2. Buy Jewel and Luna on Harmony One blockchain and stake as LP in Defi Kingdoms (6x possible). Compound once a day.

    8/10:
    Buy and stake Time (Wonderland) on Avax blockchain. (7x plus possible)

    11/10:
    1. Buy and stake WAGMI (Euphoria Money) on Harmony One blockchain (10x plus is possible, so is 0x).
    2. Buy and stake Charge (Charge Defi) on BSC blockchain (same, 10x or 0x).

    Hope that helps!

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  • Start a game server, rent out the servers for game servers?

  • DDoS sites and ask their owner for ransom money.

    j/k don't do that.

    And don't ask strangers in an internet forum on how to make money. If they know how, they'd do it themselves. Even if someone is charitable enough to share a legit way, you'd end up dividing your profits with 1000x other copycats.

  • If you have a "lot of servers" and want to make money with them, the simplest legal way is to sell them.

  • Tor
    or
    porn websites

  • @AndyE said:

    @mezoology said:
    in EGP, in USD max is 6-7%
    in early 2013 there was some trend of up to 16%. but they just woke up and realized how the economy will fall if this continues.

    Foreign investors would probably be the first in line for a haircut should things go sideways, if they even allow foreigners.

    I'm not sure if that's a thing, anywhere in the world your money in any bank is insured, and protected by international law.

  • @mezoology said:

    @AndyE said:

    @mezoology said:
    in EGP, in USD max is 6-7%
    in early 2013 there was some trend of up to 16%. but they just woke up and realized how the economy will fall if this continues.

    Foreign investors would probably be the first in line for a haircut should things go sideways, if they even allow foreigners.

    I'm not sure if that's a thing, anywhere in the world your money in any bank is insured, and protected by international law.

    Watched abit to much money heist

  • @mezoology said:

    @AndyE said:

    @mezoology said:
    in EGP, in USD max is 6-7%
    in early 2013 there was some trend of up to 16%. but they just woke up and realized how the economy will fall if this continues.

    Foreign investors would probably be the first in line for a haircut should things go sideways, if they even allow foreigners.

    I'm not sure if that's a thing, anywhere in the world your money in any bank is insured, and protected by international law.

    From my personal experience from 2008 it is definitely a thing. What international law protects foreign investors?

    From expat.com: "To open a bank account, most Egyptian banks will require you to produce a resident permit with more than six months validity."

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  • HalfEatenPieHalfEatenPie Veteran
    edited December 2021

    @AndyE said:

    @mezoology said:

    @AndyE said:

    @mezoology said:
    in EGP, in USD max is 6-7%
    in early 2013 there was some trend of up to 16%. but they just woke up and realized how the economy will fall if this continues.

    Foreign investors would probably be the first in line for a haircut should things go sideways, if they even allow foreigners.

    I'm not sure if that's a thing, anywhere in the world your money in any bank is insured, and protected by international law.

    From my personal experience from 2008 it is definitely a thing. What international law protects foreign investors?

    From expat.com: "To open a bank account, most Egyptian banks will require you to produce a resident permit with more than six months validity."

    Yeah you're correct. There's no actual international law that will fully protect your foreign investments.

    For example, Hong Kong is a perfect example of a location where people store/funnel their international funds. But to get a bank account in Hong Kong as a foreigner you have to jump through a ton more hoops and other "legal" checks (as well as making a trip out to Hong Kong to do it all).

    The instability in Thailand when the previous King passed away also made a ton of foreigners concerned for their investments in the local banking system. Because if the country's policies change for X, Y, and Z reasons, then they're SOL. I mean the UN might send a strongly worded letter but who is going to cover those funds and actually put in the leg room (and pay) to recover your funds or insure it? Do you pay taxes to some international agency to do that for you?

    I will note, it's true that each country and each region has their own policies and procedures for these situations. But at the end of the day, there are significantly less protection for foreign investments in developing countries (but with higher risk comes higher reward). The reason why the US and Europe are attractive for foreign investments is that investors know that their money have a higher chance of being safe and protected in these regions.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    There's no money to be made from rented servers without putting in the effort.
    If there was a way for easy money, the owner of those servers would be doing it already.
    You could rent the dedicated servers and sell VPS out of them, but you have to put in the effort and compete with all the top providers of this forum and elsewhere, either on price or on premium service.

  • Here are a few options:

    1. Build your own SaaS that needs the server resources you've bought and use.
    2. Build your own website that generates funds by content generation, discussions, or provides leads for companies to sell to (e.g. LEB/LET).
    3. Provide a service using your servers that people are willing to pay you for (e.g. game servers with community funding, etc.)

    There are more ideas, but these are a few to start off with. You have to add value with the servers you have. Mining cryptocurrencies aren't really great as CPU mining doesn't do much and the other solutions (e.g. ones that require storage or bandwidth) don't really hold a lot of value. I don't think what you're asking for is realistic nor is anyone willing to share their ideas in this manner as they'll probably do it themselves with their own servers rather than sell it to you.

  • You can start by asking yourself this question!
    How am I going to help other people? Not how my servers should be used first?
    -> e.g: Mail / Load Balancing Service ...
    ...

  • @AC_Fan said:
    Mining is worth it only for the whales (large net worth individuals) most of the time. The average person is better off just staking, lending or providing liquidity in DeFi, and then selling everything at BTC and ETH tops.

    Sorted by risk-reward:

    1/10:
    Roughly 20% APY on UST in Anchor, on Terra blockchain. UST is a coin pegged to USD. TVL (Total Value Locked) is in billions of dollars.

    3/10:
    Buy BTC (~49k USD) and ETH (~3.9k) now, sell all by 140k (2.85x) and 14k (3.58x) respectively.

    6/10:
    1. Buy and stake TShare (Tomb Finance) on FTM blockchain (7x possible). Use grim.finance for auto-compounding.
    2. Buy Jewel and Luna on Harmony One blockchain and stake as LP in Defi Kingdoms (6x possible). Compound once a day.

    8/10:
    Buy and stake Time (Wonderland) on Avax blockchain. (7x plus possible)

    11/10:
    1. Buy and stake WAGMI (Euphoria Money) on Harmony One blockchain (10x plus is possible, so is 0x).
    2. Buy and stake Charge (Charge Defi) on BSC blockchain (same, 10x or 0x).

    Hope that helps!

    I don't know why this is the final season of Ozark when crypto would give them so many more plots for money laundering.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited December 2021

    @mezoology said:

    @AndyE said:

    @mezoology said:
    in EGP, in USD max is 6-7%
    in early 2013 there was some trend of up to 16%. but they just woke up and realized how the economy will fall if this continues.

    Foreign investors would probably be the first in line for a haircut should things go sideways, if they even allow foreigners.

    I'm not sure if that's a thing, anywhere in the world your money in any bank is insured, and protected by international law.

    Generally, protections like that are done to attract foreign investment and done so by the government. I somewhat recall a few times where our government gave favourable terms to foreign investors for protection to ensure that they don't take out their money and cause others to follow and cause collapse. They're generally done in secret since the citizens are like, "wtf, government?"

  • @TimboJones said:

    Generally, protections like that are done to attract foreign investment and done so by the government. I somewhat recall a few times where our government gave favourable terms to foreign investors for protection to ensure that they don't take out their money and cause others to follow and cause collapse. They're generally done in secret since the citizens are like, "wtf, government?"

    Yep pretty much. Governments can usually give assurance (promises) stating that they'll help foreign investors protect their investments and making their country/location more attractive to international investments.

    HOWEVER, realistically there's no guarantee. You can try the local judicial system but this really depends on the country or the region. On an individual level, you'll probably be ignored if you're in a country where the local judicial system regularly favors native/local defendants more (certain South-East Asian countries are higher risk for international investments because of this). Or, maybe your local government is willing to protect international investments and will take actions based on it (which will definitely upset local opinions of the government).

    It's an uncertain situation.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited December 2021

    @HalfEatenPie said:

    @TimboJones said:

    Generally, protections like that are done to attract foreign investment and done so by the government. I somewhat recall a few times where our government gave favourable terms to foreign investors for protection to ensure that they don't take out their money and cause others to follow and cause collapse. They're generally done in secret since the citizens are like, "wtf, government?"

    Yep pretty much. Governments can usually give assurance (promises) stating that they'll help foreign investors protect their investments and making their country/location more attractive to international investments.

    HOWEVER, realistically there's no guarantee.

    It may very well violate trade agreements. In cases where Canadians were, "fuck that, why'd you agree to that?", IIRC our hands were tied or we'd be breaking an international trade agreement of some kind.

    Edit: for stuff like long term investment in new projects, not in buying bonds or having interest on bank accounts.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @HalfEatenPie said:

    @TimboJones said:

    Generally, protections like that are done to attract foreign investment and done so by the government. I somewhat recall a few times where our government gave favourable terms to foreign investors for protection to ensure that they don't take out their money and cause others to follow and cause collapse. They're generally done in secret since the citizens are like, "wtf, government?"

    Yep pretty much. Governments can usually give assurance (promises) stating that they'll help foreign investors protect their investments and making their country/location more attractive to international investments.

    HOWEVER, realistically there's no guarantee.

    It may very well violate trade agreements. In cases where Canadians were, "fuck that, why'd you agree to that?", IIRC our hands were tied or we'd be breaking an international trade agreement of some kind.

    Edit: for stuff like long term investment in new projects, not in buying bonds or having interest on bank accounts.

    Yeah I mean it'd violate trade agreements but then who is going to actually enforce it? Sure that country's allies could help out at the UN or other international governing bodies and there are different avenues to have it hurt economically but at the end of the day, if the new King of Thailand wants to say "fuck you and your investments" then there really isn't much you could do usually beyond going to your local embassy and hoping your country helps. (As an individual investor)

    Now if lets says Tanzania says "fuck you" to Japan's millions of dollars in infrastructure investments through their ODA projects, then yeah... There's going to be a major shift in politics.

  • HxxxHxxx Member
    edited December 2021

    If you are into crypto, just use an exchange and buy the coin. Buy low prices, Sell high prices.

    Mining right now is not profitable considering GPU prices and the possibility of ETH moving of PoW into PoS. You are late to that party.

    CPU is not profitable. I.E. You paid 60 dollars/mo for a Ryzen dedicated server but just earned 5 dollars that month. People CPU mine just to support the network not for profit.

    If you don't like trading there are some exchanges that will give you good percentage for holding or staking the coin.

    __Not financial advise, I don't know a thing. __

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  • @HalfEatenPie said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @HalfEatenPie said:

    @TimboJones said:

    Generally, protections like that are done to attract foreign investment and done so by the government. I somewhat recall a few times where our government gave favourable terms to foreign investors for protection to ensure that they don't take out their money and cause others to follow and cause collapse. They're generally done in secret since the citizens are like, "wtf, government?"

    Yep pretty much. Governments can usually give assurance (promises) stating that they'll help foreign investors protect their investments and making their country/location more attractive to international investments.

    HOWEVER, realistically there's no guarantee.

    It may very well violate trade agreements. In cases where Canadians were, "fuck that, why'd you agree to that?", IIRC our hands were tied or we'd be breaking an international trade agreement of some kind.

    Edit: for stuff like long term investment in new projects, not in buying bonds or having interest on bank accounts.

    Yeah I mean it'd violate trade agreements but then who is going to actually enforce it? Sure that country's allies could help out at the UN or other international governing bodies and there are different avenues to have it hurt economically but at the end of the day, if the new King of Thailand wants to say "fuck you and your investments" then there really isn't much you could do usually beyond going to your local embassy and hoping your country helps. (As an individual investor)

    Now if lets says Tanzania says "fuck you" to Japan's millions of dollars in infrastructure investments through their ODA projects, then yeah... There's going to be a major shift in politics.

    There's a resolution processes in trade agreements. Canada and the US fight about lumber and other trade stuff. Then appeal... Circle of life.

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  • yokowasisyokowasis Member
    edited December 2021

    If it's profitable, don't you think all of the people will do it ?

    Also I don't think hetzner allow it. Even if it's on a dedicated.

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  • @yokowasis said:
    If it's profitable, don't you think all of the people will do it ?

    Also I don't think hetzner allow it. Even if it's on a dedicated.

    how does hetzner would know if im mining on a dedicated server?

  • @gapper said:

    @yokowasis said:
    If it's profitable, don't you think all of the people will do it ?

    Also I don't think hetzner allow it. Even if it's on a dedicated.

    how does hetzner would know if im mining on a dedicated server?

    There's a few ways but realistically they probably don't care as long as you don't cause problems. If you cause problems, then they'll probably use that as an excuse to kick you out.

    Regardless, it's not profitable.

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  • @yoursunny said:
    Forget about crypto.
    Push-ups are the ultimate currency.
    I earned hundreds of push-ups flipping KVM servers.

    @yoursunny 's push-up currency is accepted by which payment gateway? if so, abbrev. it PUD.

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate
    edited December 2021

    @bsh said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Forget about crypto.
    Push-ups are the ultimate currency.
    I earned hundreds of push-ups flipping KVM servers.

    @yoursunny 's push-up currency is accepted by which payment gateway? if so, abbrev. it PUD.

    Push-ups currency is processed directly with the seller, similar to cash.
    You don't need a payment gateway.

    I sell KVM servers with an option to pay with push-ups.
    It cuts out the payment gateway fees and brings you savings.
    If you want to pay in push-ups, PM me for how to upload.

    In a past offer, the options were:

    • Zelle $7, base price
    • PayPal $8, because PayPal charges $0.77 fee
    • personal check $12, because Bluebird charges $5 fee for 5-minute processing, and nobody wants to wait for the 10-day free processing
    • WeChat ¥45, same as $7
    • push-ups 45, but this doesn't establish an exchange rate, because there aren't enough transaction volume to exchange with any other currency

    For some reason, all the perspective buyers were asking about push-ups despite that all payment options are equal.

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