Hetzner vs Soyoustart

allthemtings

What’s everyone’s thoughts on the two?

comXyz

Soyoustart is longer

darkimmortal

Hetzner better support and upload speed

SYS server-grade hardware (costs a premium outside of hetzner auction), IPMI, cheap IPv4 and automatic hardware replacements while you are asleep etc

SteveMC

Off-topic, but, for native English speakers, how does "So you start" sound/look like? Because, to me, SYS looks good, but the acronym less.

Arkas

Hetzner is better all around except for DDoS protection.

darkimmortal

@SteveMC said:
Off-topic, but, for native English speakers, how does "So you start" sound/look like? Because, to me, SYS looks good, but the acronym less.

First impression from the name when they launched was bad, now that they have built the brand I’m indifferent. It is memorable from how unusual it is

Wicked

Only reason to pick OVH is if you need better DDoS Protection or more locations. After their black friday offers I moved 80% of my servers from Hetzner to OVH and its been fine.

BlazinDimes

@SteveMC said:
Off-topic, but, for native English speakers, how does "So you start" sound/look like? Because, to me, SYS looks good, but the acronym less.

At first I thought it was a bit weird but then saw it abbreviated SYS and thought hey, that's neat.

eris

@Wicked said:
Only reason to pick OVH is if you need better DDoS Protection or more locations. After their black friday offers I moved 80% of my servers from Hetzner to OVH and its been fine.

Or more ip's Hetzner are way to expensive right now ....

allthemtings

@Wicked said:
Only reason to pick OVH is if you need better DDoS Protection or more locations. After their black friday offers I moved 80% of my servers from Hetzner to OVH and its been fine.

Value for money hetzner seems to be the best pick though don’t you think?

deank

Both are bottom barrel hosts, meant for poor folks such as us.

Does it matter? No, it does not matter which.

The only difference is that one is the Germans. The other is the French. Both love to set things on fire. That's all I know.

SteveMC

@deank said: Both love to set things on fire.

Strasbourg was in Germany for a long time, it might explain things. (bad joke)

By the way, all is a matter of finding the right offer for your needs.

GodSpeed

The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Nekki

Hetzner have more things you’re not allowed to do than SoYouStart.

Hetzner have actual cancellation polices that you need to be aware of.

Hetzner have never had a DC burn down.

These are the factors that matter to LET’ers.

Nekki

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

deank

I'd like to point out that Hetzner has Katie also.

The only real female around the wasteland as far as I know.

GodSpeed

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

ericls

I think it's a lot easier to make a high availability k8s cluster with hetzner.

Shot2

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

Let's alter it a bit (from my having lived substantially in both countries):
The Germans are, in general, stressful and rigorous.
The French are, in general, relaxed and cheaters.

Baguette vs. Brötchen - tough choice.

dodheimsgard

deank

Like I said, the French has a long history of setting important things on fire.

So, no surprises there. It's just what they do.

Nekki

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

GodSpeed

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

The point of view I'm stating is just my opinion and I don't expect you to understand it.

There are both good and bad people in a country, and this is the same all over the world. I'm just saying that this is their distinguishing characteristic.

So don't reply, do you understand?

allthemtings

This thread didn’t go down the way I expected 🤯

SteveMC

@allthemtings said:
This thread didn’t go down the way I expected 🤯

Welcome to LET

However, as i said, if you find the offer which matches your needs and budget, no matter with which you go.

allthemtings

@SteveMC said:

@allthemtings said:
This thread didn’t go down the way I expected 🤯

Welcome to LET

However, as i said, if you find the offer which matches your needs and budget, no matter with which you go.

Thanks boss I’ll keep an eye out, any experience using the hetzner auction?

Nekki

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

The point of view I'm stating is just my opinion and I don't expect you to understand it.

There are both good and bad people in a country, and this is the same all over the world. I'm just saying that this is their distinguishing characteristic.

So don't reply, do you understand?

Fucking hell, you’re a joyless prick.

GodSpeed

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

The point of view I'm stating is just my opinion and I don't expect you to understand it.

There are both good and bad people in a country, and this is the same all over the world. I'm just saying that this is their distinguishing characteristic.

So don't reply, do you understand?

Fucking hell, you’re a joyless prick.

Hahahaha, pissed off bastard.

allthemtings

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

The point of view I'm stating is just my opinion and I don't expect you to understand it.

There are both good and bad people in a country, and this is the same all over the world. I'm just saying that this is their distinguishing characteristic.

So don't reply, do you understand?

Fucking hell, you’re a joyless prick.

Hahahaha, pissed off bastard.

I love it here

Nekki

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

The point of view I'm stating is just my opinion and I don't expect you to understand it.

There are both good and bad people in a country, and this is the same all over the world. I'm just saying that this is their distinguishing characteristic.

So don't reply, do you understand?

Fucking hell, you’re a joyless prick.

Hahahaha, pissed off bastard.

I don’t think you know me that well, sunbeam.

GodSpeed

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:

@Nekki said:

@GodSpeed said:
The Germans are, in general, rigorous and guaranteed. The French are romantic, but they also lose quality and efficiency as a result.

So I think it's hetzner

Horrific national stereotyping.

if you've actually been exposed to them, you should know that it's not stereotypical prejudice.

both France and Germany have their own cultures and strengths.

germany is good at manufacturing, engineering.

france is in culture and economics.

the education systems between them are not at all the same.

I have, and I disagree, based on my personal experience of working with engineering teams in both locations.

The point of view I'm stating is just my opinion and I don't expect you to understand it.

There are both good and bad people in a country, and this is the same all over the world. I'm just saying that this is their distinguishing characteristic.

So don't reply, do you understand?

Fucking hell, you’re a joyless prick.

Hahahaha, pissed off bastard.

I don’t think you know me that well, sunbeam.