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sad days for seedboxes
Ongoing crackdown on seedbox providers indicate sad news for the niche.
Be aware if using such services and paying in non-anonymous currency while using no vpn to secure your logins.
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This will easily be bypassed.
Impossible to bypass if industry sharks will hunt you down in a target manner.
They won’t.
Had to be expected as some point. Mostly a problem for providers advertising their servers as seedboxes, not for VPS providers, even though some users might seed from their nodes.
Torrenting at all without using a VPN is n00b's play in my opinion, even if you are using a provider that doesn't bat an eyelid.
The beauty of this approach is that you can torrent from any server with appropriate considerations to the IO usage, when you are using a VPN to do the dirty work. There are plenty of VPN providers who allow torrents and even have specific servers for such things.
It may not work forever but it seems to be outlasting seedboxes, so it's probably safe for now.
The crackdown is only against Seedbox(dot)io, with sister company Walkerservers. Ultra(dot)cc simply took precautions.
No other seedbox company has been targeted. It has only been Seedbox(do)io and Walkerservers. Word is either they were an easy target having been registered in Denmark, or they had deep involvement with some Danish private trackers, whose bust coincides with the litigation of the above two companies.
Regardless we will never know the full/real details, unless the lawsuit is made public. If you are a customer of either company, it is best to move out of Seedbox(do)io and Walkerservers and request a deletion of your account, as the owner will very likely be sued as a private individual as well.
It is going to be a long winding lawsuit and cases like these often end in a settlement involving the complete shut down of all the running websites and possibly even hand over of the client data that were using their services as seedboxes for further investigation into who was exactly pirating.
Tagging @sandoz
The champion of privacy and supporter of seeders and piracy.
That too europe… Denmark.
Freedom stolen away even without the proposed EU regulations on domain registration.
If precedent will form with winning side on RIA, all seedboxes will suffer the same fate. Seems there is insanely naive opinions about anonimity, no logging and false safety provided by the seedbox providers...
I don't think folks are naive, more they are realistic about who the targets are at this juncture.
Well this seems targeted towards walkerservers and seedbox.io specifically from the looks of it. The owner was reached out in March 2021, and from the looks of it he probably blew them off at first. Also I seen their ads on one of these private trackers (non-danish) for 5% discount for the members and all, my hunch is they had similar ads on some of those danish private trackers and got caught in the crossfire when those sites were served with lawsuits.
I've never seen a seedbox provider be under legal pressure like this, because the provider is not forcing you to pirate, the users are. There are multiple seedbox providers (shared and dedicated) in Europe and some even in North America that have been operating for almost a decade without legal issues.
But the owner of walkerservers always use to boast about not having to worry about DMCA on his NL servers on his chat channel, and I called it last year that this guy is going to get in trouble with BREIN or someone similar because his company is neck deep into piracy. My experience as a customer was terrible there, but still good luck to them/him with litigation.
This is not about particular providers, but more about precedent in general. Like with vpn's. They will press more and more seedbox providers to enforce regulation,logging and compliance. When this happens, niche will become obsolete.
The problem with that is that people end up using VPNs like NordVPN that don't support port forwarding... It's not really a seedbox if you can't seed 🤔. NordVPN is particularly bad as they advertise it for "P2P networks" but that's not actually possible without port forwarding...
I read always Torrentfreak everyday, don't be afraid. I know it.
And I can make a promise for you, if I was Hosting Provider. I should fight, and fight against these organizations.
The problem is, that costs money. But with a good argue you can sit them down, but of course they have friends in Court, and money & friends help...
If I was hosting provider, no single (with exceptions) takedown should be accepted WITHOUT A VALID COURT ORDER from Local law, expect CP, Terrorism.
What that means? I will shutdown the content or website? Yes, but first please give me the court order from local law and we will do it, if you don't have. Sorry the email will be sent to trash folder.
Is socks5 proxy the same? Because some upload ratio begs to differ.
Ah yeah, I forgot about those run-of-the-mill VPN providers and seeding. I have to admit I don't seed at all (yeah, yeah, I know..) but for seeding you're absolutely right, not a good strategy.
I don't have a lot of money, but what I do have is a very particular set of legally owned tv shows.
The proxy is for outbound connections... How are people are going to connect inbound?
Someone in Australia bought me a box set of "Air Crash Investigation" as a birthday present, and shipped it to me, but I can't even watch it because it's locked to region 4 and I don't have any non-region-locked DVD players any more. I guess I'll have to cross the border to Mexico (which is also region 4) to watch my DVDs <_<
>not ripping it with handbrakeIs Handbrake region-free? The only computer DVD drive I have is region locked and doesn't allow changing the region at all.
Hmm, it should be. Make sure to install libdvdcss, of course.
@PulsedMedia are (or were) you affected by something like this? What is your opinion?
Denmark has always had strict copyright laws, and all internet traffic is logged by law. It is so funny when people buy "offshore" hosting in Denmark.
It has at no point been possible to register a .dk and have any form of privacy.
The EU laws are generally catching up to the strict Danish laws, not the other way around.
What's stopping a seedbox provider from transparently tunneling customer traffic over a VPN provider, and use their port forwarding feature for seeding?
Money
PulsedMedia and other seedbox providers are fine because seedbox reselling is not illegal. Running a seedbox is not illegal. Downloading copyright content is illegal but even that just doesn't escalate straight to a criminal complaint or a lawsuit.
With seedbox(do)io and walkerservers, it is rumored that the owner was closely involved with the DK sites that were busted, which brought him into the crossfire.
There is no reports of any criminal complaints being received by any other seedbox providers. So it is very likely, that the criminal complaint again the company was generated due some deep involvement in piracy that is not related to simple seedbox reselling. Seedboxes are not illegal, they are obviously just servers or vps. Its what you use them for is what can potentially make them illegal, I'm sure everybody knows that.
A few of the DK sites were and still are involved in reselling IPTV services, my hunch is it is somewhat related to that because there is currently a huge crackdown on IPTV.
I've outed myself as a leech. Sending to others works as long as you're still downloading. I'm the greedy bastard that gets mine and gets out.
I don't know why these people would seed on limited monthly data limits. Pirates surprise me.
You can find a lot of that on YouTube.
I think that’s true if most people, to be honest.
Personally, I only seed the stuff that’s a) quite hard to get and b) not/no-longer commercially available in the west like weird unpopular anime, the films of Dean Cameron and extremely niche Japanese pornography.
Most people around the world have monthly data limits on their home connections, and the limits are usually far smaller than what's available on VPSes or dedicated servers, and yet those people still seed.
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