Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!


OVH, Hetzner or Contabo for DDoS Protection?
New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.

OVH, Hetzner or Contabo for DDoS Protection?

WickedWicked Member

Hello,

I've been out of the game for a few years, but recently some of my projects have caught on and I think it's time to move away from DO. There has been a few smaller attacks the last few days. It's mostly non-profit projects so I'm currently considering something cheap from either OVH, Hetzner or Contabo.

Which one has the best protection?

«1

Comments

  • I think that the best DDoS Protection has Contabo. A few seconds and the DDoS is blocked and your IP nullrouted.

  • From the mentioned def OVH, but I would recommend buyvm maybe or @Clouvider

    Thanked by 1Wicked
  • OVH of course.

    Thanked by 1webcraft
  • ovh, nfoservers are good cheap options

  • @Hotmarer said:
    I think that the best DDoS Protection has Contabo. A few seconds and the DDoS is blocked and your IP nullrouted.

    Exactly. They have no ddos at all...

    Talistech.com — ICT Consultancy and NVMe web hosting solutions.

  • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

    @Hotmarer said:
    I think that the best DDoS Protection has Contabo. A few seconds and the DDoS is blocked and your IP nullrouted.

    All providers call nullroute the IP address of your server, so they are not unique with their DDOS protection 😂

    VPS Price Match Guarantee on: All our range of DDOS protected VPS Plans
    Are you looking for best price for self-managed VPS? See WebProVPS website for more details.
  • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

    @Talistech said:

    @Hotmarer said:
    I think that the best DDoS Protection has Contabo. A few seconds and the DDoS is blocked and your IP nullrouted.

    Exactly. They have no ddos at all...

    They do it’s called unique technology 😂

    VPS Price Match Guarantee on: All our range of DDOS protected VPS Plans
    Are you looking for best price for self-managed VPS? See WebProVPS website for more details.
  • OVH, but path would be better

    helllo your computer has virus

  • cybertechcybertech Member
    edited October 10

    i would suggest iHostART. he has a dedicat mikrotik for ddos protect.

    I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    OVH > Hetzner >>>>>>>>>> Contabo

    If you want longterm solution then check PHP-Friends and netcup.
    Hetzner is good for random projects, because of very fast provisioning & hourly billing & cheap block storage. OVH hosting/vps are worse in price/performance than PHP-Friends and netcup. Netcup works really good for websites, but its not that good for UDP traffic ex. game servers. Contabo will nullroute your VPS so basically it will be unreachable to anyone as long as its DDoSed. Its not protection at all, they are bottom-tier provider in terms of money so they need to cut a lot of corners to be sustainable. If they would provide something better then they would be bankrupt. Contabo works good only if you need burstable CPU performance, plenty of SSD, lots of RAM at low price.

    I found that PHP-Friends has best network (2x lower ping to Poland vs Hetzner/netcup) and because, they are smaller company they care about single customer. 3 more weeks and I will use them for big production site, because they are the best in terms of what you get for low amount of money.

    Favorite European providers: netcup and Hetzner (free €20, aff)

  • @AXYZE said:
    I found that PHP-Friends has best network (2x lower ping to Poland vs Hetzner/netcup) and because, they are smaller company they care about single customer. 3 more weeks and I will use them for big production site, because they are the best in terms of what you get for low amount of money.

    I’ve used them before, but everything is in German which is a pain.

  • @Wicked said:

    @AXYZE said:
    I found that PHP-Friends has best network (2x lower ping to Poland vs Hetzner/netcup) and because, they are smaller company they care about single customer. 3 more weeks and I will use them for big production site, because they are the best in terms of what you get for low amount of money.

    I’ve used them before, but everything is in German which is a pain.

    Use google translate, but the solus panel is in english, that's fine.

    Try netcup, good option.

  • @CalmDown said:

    @Wicked said:

    @AXYZE said:
    I found that PHP-Friends has best network (2x lower ping to Poland vs Hetzner/netcup) and because, they are smaller company they care about single customer. 3 more weeks and I will use them for big production site, because they are the best in terms of what you get for low amount of money.

    I’ve used them before, but everything is in German which is a pain.

    Use google translate, but the solus panel is in english, that's fine.

    Try netcup, good option.

    How is their support? I’m guessing better then the 3 providers I mentioned?

  • OVH has no support at all, this will be confirmed by any user.

    But each german provider has kinda equal support.

    I would say if you wish better support go with @Avoro

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited October 10

    @CalmDown said:
    OVH has no support at all, this will be confirmed by any user.

    But each german provider has kinda equal support.

    I would say if you wish better support go with @Avoro

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

    Why Avoro doesnt even have Ubuntu 20.04? Only 18.04. Veeery long time from release. No Debian 11 or CentOS 8 too. Default OS is CentOS 6.5 wtf

    Favorite European providers: netcup and Hetzner (free €20, aff)

  • AvoroAvoro Member, Provider

    @AXYZE said:

    @CalmDown said:
    OVH has no support at all, this will be confirmed by any user.

    But each german provider has kinda equal support.

    I would say if you wish better support go with @Avoro

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

    Why Avoro doesnt even have Ubuntu 20.04? Only 18.04. Veeery long time from release. No Debian 11 too.

    We have Ubuntu 20.04, but not yet officially on the website. Debian 11 is still coming of course, but we are working on an alternative (new vServer generation) with high performance Ceph cluster and much more :)

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

    Right now yes, but maybe there is also something planned? :)

  • @CalmDown said:
    OVH has no support at all, this will be confirmed by any user.

    But each german provider has kinda equal support.

    I would say if you wish better support go with @Avoro

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

    They have dedicated cores or threads?

    helllo your computer has virus

  • CalinCalin Member

    ovh recomanded

    Contabo suspended VDS / Dedicated server for received ddos attack

    Thanked by 3AXYZE bruh21 webcraft
  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @Avoro said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @CalmDown said:
    OVH has no support at all, this will be confirmed by any user.

    But each german provider has kinda equal support.

    I would say if you wish better support go with @Avoro

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

    Why Avoro doesnt even have Ubuntu 20.04? Only 18.04. Veeery long time from release. No Debian 11 too.

    We have Ubuntu 20.04, but not yet officially on the website. Debian 11 is still coming of course, but we are working on an alternative (new vServer generation) with high performance Ceph cluster and much more :)

    They are using same DC/Network/Hardware as php-friends, but i would say i liked their attention and support to me much.

    Right now yes, but maybe there is also something planned? :)

    You should have CentOS 8/Alma/Rocky and Debian 11 by now.
    Ubuntu 20.04 was released 1.5 years ago... Half year more and we will have 22.04. It gives impression that your company is out of business from long time. I understand that you need to make template, modify site etc, but it cant take 1.5yrs, all OSes that are visible on page are outdated.
    Your offer seems great, but even if I would want 18.04 then still lack of 20.04 today is red flag.

    Favorite European providers: netcup and Hetzner (free €20, aff)

  • @AXYZE Not defending anyone, but I don't see any issue just to make an upgrade from 18.04 => 20.04, i would say. Still at my work mostly colleagues uses 18.04 as projects are long time with us and they are kinda big, so not easy to migrate without issues :D

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited October 10

    @CalmDown said:
    @AXYZE Not defending anyone, but I don't see any issue just to make an upgrade from 18.04 => 20.04, i would say. Still at my work mostly colleagues uses 18.04 as projects are long time with us and they are kinda big, so not easy to migrate without issues :D

    Ofc you can upgrade, but if company that sells VMs is 1.5 years behind OS release schedule then its kinda weird right? And that's just Ubuntu, CentOS 8 isn't available too and it was released in 2019, 2 years already passed.

    CentOS 6.5 is EOL from 1 year and its default choice, so if you visit Avoro website you can think that they abandoned site a long time ago or company doesn't exists anymore.

    It's not that hard to add OS template, so I'm interested why its taking so long

    @Avoro what's the reason for it? Billing panel, automation or just nobody requested it?

    Thanked by 2OhJohn webcraft

    Favorite European providers: netcup and Hetzner (free €20, aff)

  • cyagoncyagon Member
    edited October 11
    • OVHs Anti-DDoS is pretty good, and OVHs GAME-Anti-DDoS is pretty effective for specific protocols like Teamspeak. But apparently its useless against attacks from inside OVHs network (and fire).
    • Hetzner uses Arbor and Juniper hardware (unlike a custom solution like OVH). Should work against standard use cases, but dont expect magic.
    • Contabos Anti-DDoS consists of simply nullrouting your IP

    If you want effective Anti-DDoS, check out fastpipe.io (combahton), i heard good things about them from other providers like zap-hosting

    Thanked by 1combahton_it
  • ArkasArkas Member

    Does Netcup have DDoS in their network built in?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    I really do like OVH. Who cares whether they provide support?

    I rarely needed it. About 10 years I've used them for various projects, only one time I needed support. That was like 9 years ago.

    If you need tech support at OVH, you are doing something horribly wrong.

    Thanked by 1webcraft

    If you wish to join Nigh sect, adopt my avatar as your own and believe in the end.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @Arkas said:
    Does Netcup have DDoS in their network built in?

    They reroute traffic through Anexia infrastructure when they detect attack. Its not on-prem. Like I said good for websites, not so good for game servers.

    Thanked by 1Arkas

    Favorite European providers: netcup and Hetzner (free €20, aff)

  • combahton_itcombahton_it Member, Provider

    @cyagon said:

    • OVHs Anti-DDoS is pretty good, and OVHs GAME-Anti-DDoS is pretty effective for specific protocols like Teamspeak. But apparently its useless against attacks from inside OVHs network (and fire).
    • Hetzner uses Arbor and Juniper hardware (unlike a custom solution like OVH). Should work against standard use cases, but dont expect magic.
    • Contabos Anti-DDoS consists of simply nullrouting your IP

    If you want effective Anti-DDoS, check out fastpipe.io (combahton), i heard good things about them from other providers like zap-hosting

    Thanks for mentioning! :)

    Indeed, we got filters for most common games and teamspeak, pretty large FiveM gameservers for example use our network / ddos protection. For most of them, we have caching as well as challenge response in place, happening on our ddos-filters.

    Using our APIv3, customers can gain insights in the mitigation process, e.g. bad traffic metrics / accepted traffic / sflow samples to adjust filters for their application by setting individual flexrules.

    combahton GmbH trading as fastpipe.io - providing Cloud and Dedicated Servers in Frankfurt, Germany

  • cyagoncyagon Member
    edited October 12

    @combahton_it said:

    @cyagon said:

    • OVHs Anti-DDoS is pretty good, and OVHs GAME-Anti-DDoS is pretty effective for specific protocols like Teamspeak. But apparently its useless against attacks from inside OVHs network (and fire).
    • Hetzner uses Arbor and Juniper hardware (unlike a custom solution like OVH). Should work against standard use cases, but dont expect magic.
    • Contabos Anti-DDoS consists of simply nullrouting your IP

    If you want effective Anti-DDoS, check out fastpipe.io (combahton), i heard good things about them from other providers like zap-hosting

    Thanks for mentioning! :)

    Indeed, we got filters for most common games and teamspeak, pretty large FiveM gameservers for example use our network / ddos protection. For most of them, we have caching as well as challenge response in place, happening on our ddos-filters.

    Using our APIv3, customers can gain insights in the mitigation process, e.g. bad traffic metrics / accepted traffic / sflow samples to adjust filters for their application by setting individual flexrules.

    Just for interest, do you provide ddos-filters for https://rage.mp and https://altv.mp/ as well?

  • @combahton_it said:

    @cyagon said:

    • OVHs Anti-DDoS is pretty good, and OVHs GAME-Anti-DDoS is pretty effective for specific protocols like Teamspeak. But apparently its useless against attacks from inside OVHs network (and fire).
    • Hetzner uses Arbor and Juniper hardware (unlike a custom solution like OVH). Should work against standard use cases, but dont expect magic.
    • Contabos Anti-DDoS consists of simply nullrouting your IP

    If you want effective Anti-DDoS, check out fastpipe.io (combahton), i heard good things about them from other providers like zap-hosting

    Thanks for mentioning! :)

    Indeed, we got filters for most common games and teamspeak, pretty large FiveM gameservers for example use our network / ddos protection. For most of them, we have caching as well as challenge response in place, happening on our ddos-filters.

    Using our APIv3, customers can gain insights in the mitigation process, e.g. bad traffic metrics / accepted traffic / sflow samples to adjust filters for their application by setting individual flexrules.

    Do you allow GRE tunnel or vpn server on your Cloud Servers (VPS)?
    Where can i find a list of supported games/protocols for AntyDDoS?
    Do you have some proxy protection for HTTP?

  • combahton_itcombahton_it Member, Provider
    edited October 12

    @cyagon said:
    Just for interest, do you provide ddos-filters for https://rage.mp and https://altv.mp/ as well?

    Nothing specialized yet, both are on our todo :smile:

    @Hotmarer said:
    Do you have some proxy protection for HTTP?

    Both Port 80, 443 and 8443 are covered, FiveM on Port 3000-32000 has a special filter which protects against Layer7 attacks using http - we also terminate SSL, making servers imune against http centric attacks.

    You can find more on https://wiki.combahton.net/antiddos.html

    GRE Tunnels are of course allowed, please keep in mind - GRE needs to be whitelisted seperately using flexrules. GRE wont work under DDoS-Protection without whitelisting, we discard all non ICMP/TCP/UDP traffic by default.

    Thanked by 1Hotmarer

    combahton GmbH trading as fastpipe.io - providing Cloud and Dedicated Servers in Frankfurt, Germany

  • NeoonNeoon Member

    just gre tunnel the traffic through all 3, problem solved.

    Thanked by 1webcraft

    NanoKVM | Free NAT KVM | Apply here

Sign In or Register to comment.