What OS should i use as a CentOS replacement for web servers?

ericls

for network application FreeBSD is probably better

vinhais

I used Alma Linux on 1 production server a few weeks ago, haven't had any problems yet

nfn

I moved to RL. So far so good!

edoarudo5

@Proxecure said:

@edoarudo5 said:
I use RHEL personally and it works well for me.

RHEL No-Cost version you are using ?

Yes, still same as the regular enterprise one according to my experience (I also manage an enterprise subscription for an educational institution but I don't use it for my server), just no support. I'd dare to say it's the most polished Linux OS I have ever used, I even use it as a desktop, LOL.

itsnotv

@quicksilver03 said:

@itsnotv said:
Fedora isn't acceptable for a server, remember the time they made cgroups v2 the default and broke docker?

For a non-sequitur, that's a nice one. I guess that your definition of "server" excludes Fedora, but couldn't you just present it better?

https://fedoramagazine.org/docker-and-fedora-32/

This is why I would never use Fedora on a server. Imagine running a routine upgrade and then scrambling to find a fix because docker doesn't work anymore.

The 6 month release cycle isn't ideal for a server, and with every upgrade you run the risk of an unbootable server. I would rather stick with stable RHEL fork like CentOS/Rocky/Alma and just pull the latest versions of softwares from repo or run them in docker.

Proxecure

@edoarudo5 said:

@Proxecure said:

@edoarudo5 said:
I use RHEL personally and it works well for me.

RHEL No-Cost version you are using ?

Yes, still same as the regular enterprise one according to my experience (I also manage an enterprise subscription for an educational institution but I don't use it for my server), just no support. I'd dare to say it's the most polished Linux OS I have ever used, I even use it as a desktop, LOL.

But they provide security updates regularly? Isn't

Proxecure

@nfn said:
I moved to RL. So far so good!

Any compatibility issue ? Which control panel you are using ?

edoarudo5

@Proxecure said:

@edoarudo5 said:

@Proxecure said:

@edoarudo5 said:
I use RHEL personally and it works well for me.

RHEL No-Cost version you are using ?

Yes, still same as the regular enterprise one according to my experience (I also manage an enterprise subscription for an educational institution but I don't use it for my server), just no support. I'd dare to say it's the most polished Linux OS I have ever used, I even use it as a desktop, LOL.

But they provide security updates regularly? Isn't

Yes, they do, provided that your (developer) subscription is active.

dahartigan

Debian

cybertech

@Proxecure said:

@adly said:
Why not AlmaLinux? CloudLinux has experience managing a RHEL fork.

I am unable to trust Alma Linux,

but you trusted Centos (8) and they broke y(our) trust.

Tony40

Ubuntu is the king of the Jungle.

nfn

@Proxecure said:

@nfn said:
I moved to RL. So far so good!

Any compatibility issue ? Which control panel you are using ?

I use pure RL and I haven't had any problems.

Be sure to read the release notes:
https://docs.rockylinux.org/release_notes/8.4/

I think Rsyslog problem was solved and Secure Boot is underway.

RL chat channels are full of people that can help if something won't go as expected.

Proxecure

@nfn said:

@Proxecure said:

@nfn said:
I moved to RL. So far so good!

Any compatibility issue ? Which control panel you are using ?

I use pure RL and I haven't had any problems.

Be sure to read the release notes:
https://docs.rockylinux.org/release_notes/8.4/

I think Rsyslog problem was solved and Secure Boot is underway.

RL chat channels are full of people that can help if something won't go as expected.

Thanks 👍 but I have migrated to RHEL

Proxecure

@Proxecure said:
I am currently using centos 8 on my 4 Web servers which is supported until December 2021, so I have to migrate, I am confused between these 3 alternatives,

1-Rocky Linux ( which is very new in market)
2-Oracle Linux
3-RHEL (No-Cost a free version which supports 26 systems)

Thanks everyone for your suggestions 😊 finally I have decided to Install RHEL and I found it's very light on server resources 🙂

aj_potc

@Proxecure said:
finally I have decided to Install RHEL and I found it's very light on server resources 🙂

Well, it's identical to what you had before (CentOS 8), so I should hope so. It's not like you're installing a totally different distribution.

Only the subscription/update model of RHEL would be slightly different from the derivatives, from what I've read.

adly

Not sure about the ‘hate’ of AlmaLinux; yes, CloudLinux and the company don’t appear to be great open source citizens, but they’ve made commitments for AlmaLinux.

That said, I personally use Debian-based distros so perhaps I’m missing something.

Proxecure

@aj_potc said:

@Proxecure said:
finally I have decided to Install RHEL and I found it's very light on server resources 🙂

Well, it's identical to what you had before (CentOS 8), so I should hope so. It's not like you're installing a totally different distribution.

Only the subscription/update model of RHEL would be slightly different from the derivatives, from what I've read.

The thing I like most is , I can check for errors and updates for all machines running on RHEL from my mobile by logging in to my rhel account, there is no need to login to each server and check for updates and errors.
So 5***** for RHEL

raindog308

@Proxecure said: The thing I like most is , I can check for errors and updates for all machines running on RHEL from my mobile by logging in to my rhel account, there is no need to login to each server and check for updates and errors.

So you don't trust CloudLinux because they might someday publish paid add-ons to a GPL project...but you do trust IBM (one of the titans of proprietary software) not to change its mind about making RHEL free...?

I mean, party on but I don't see the logic.

adly

@raindog308 said:
So you don't trust CloudLinux because they might someday publish paid add-ons to a GPL project...but you do trust IBM (one of the titans of proprietary software) not to change its mind about making RHEL free...?

In all fairness, IBM/RHEL only seem to care about paid support and the like; CloudLinux is built upon their somewhat proprietary code and it’s benefit to the hosting industry (and others…).

active8

Almalinux, works flawless after migration from Centos 8 box with DirectAdmin

rcxb

@itsnotv said:
Fedora isn't acceptable for a server, remember the time they made cgroups v2 the default and broke docker?

Yes I do. Remove docker, install podman and make a shortcut if you can't remember that, and you were all done: alias docker='podman'

visualwebtechnologies

I prefer RHEL

ankursharma8715

@Proxecure said:
I am currently using centos 8 on my 4 Web servers which is supported until December 2021, so I have to migrate, I am confused between these 3 alternatives,

1-Rocky Linux ( which is very new in market)
2-Oracle Linux
3-RHEL (No-Cost a free version which supports 26 systems)

I would like to suggest going for CentOS 7 64bit for all the support that you need.

Boogeyman

I want to build a RHEL fork just for fun. Anyone with good knowledge about debranding, rpmdevtools, mock, koji builder, lots of spec files and other things?

wpyoga

@Boogeyman said:
I want to build a RHEL fork just for fun. Anyone with good knowledge about debranding, rpmdevtools, mock, koji builder, lots of spec files and other things?

You can start here: https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/step-by-step-process-for-forking-rebuild-rhel/192

I wanted to do it as well (just for fun), but gave up (for now) because the debranding process seems to be a lot of manual work...

OTOH and OT: Does anyone know the legality of not debranding the sources, rebuilding the sources, and then distributing the binaries?

Boogeyman

@wpyoga said: You can start here: https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/step-by-step-process-for-forking-rebuild-rhel/192

I wanted to do it as well (just for fun), but gave up (for now) because the debranding process seems to be a lot of manual work...

OTOH and OT: Does anyone know the legality of not debranding the sources, rebuilding the sources, and then distributing the binaries?

I got this far with the help of Internet and Rocky Linux wiki. They even added in their docs which packages need debranding. And if you don't debrand Red Hat will likely come after you.

mmuyskens

Windows is prem.

wpyoga

And if you don't debrand Red Hat will likely come after you.

Does it not fall under fair use? I'm wondering how the law applies here.