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Any good Storage Dedi/VPS/KVM provider for video hosting that doesn't freak out over DMCA?
Here's the thing:
I used to have a video hosting site kinda like YouTube, but with a smaller community.
Said video site was hosted on Hetzner, but one day, some complete #@%! came and sent Hetzner a Fake DMCA Claim.
Hetzner then proceeded to nuke my server out of existence. No notice, no mediation, no chance to remove the content or backup anything. The moment Hetzner received a DMCA claim, a fake one at that, they decided to take all of my money and hard work and throw it into the incinerator.
Can you guys recommend me any providers that won't do that?
I mean, I'm fine with getting DMCA claims and with removing content, I'm just not fine with my server getting nuked because the provider is a scammer and a moron.
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Leaseweb? You can talk to Dan at WalkerServers. He manages seedboxes so prolly good DMCA handling.
yes, that's how hetzner work
new provider: spectraip maybe... but their support is very slow
i suggest place your storage somewhere and only use these dedis as cache streaming servers
https://walkerservers.com/acceptable-use-policy/
@AliS what type of specs you looking for and location?
My guess would be that the video / content that needed removed included either some strange porn or sexually explicit video and Hetzner / German hosts in general have very strict AUPs on what is acceptable on their service when it comes to this type of content (especially pornography). So likely, it wasn't specifically a DMCA issue, but likely also the content reported broke the AUP / TOS / accepted content in Germany and they could no longer allow it on their services. They do have a 0 tolerance policy on content of specific types being hosted on their network outlined in their AUP / TOS if you review.
You should be sure whatever host you choose, you actually disclose what caused this issue fully and be sure they would indeed provide allowances of time / review on an issue of the same type.
You would be better to consider hosting in a location which doesn't have as strict content restrictions (with a non-German company) and / or is has a less known track records of enforcing these restriction. Just a very short search around, you will be able to find you are not the only one that has met such an end to their hosting of a similar type with Hetzner.
My 2 cents.
Cheers!
Sounds like BuyVM time
Slabs
Francisco
Go with BuyVM or Zadeservers .net
I operate a video streaming site and it's hard to figure out where the content is actually hosted at a casual glance. What you see in tcpdump isn't the origin server.
@AliS Give @Francisco BuyVM or myself a look.
BuyVM
/ DMZhost
I run Xtream UI from Hetzner, although its semi-private, I had to change all of its ports to protect it against automated scans/abuse reports. Im 100% sure that I would also get all my servers nuked instantly if it causes any DMCA messages.
If you run a public video site on hetzner, its a self approved risk you are taking.
If you use hetzner for warez, stay with private trackers, and if you use it for video site, you need some other provider as front end and hetzner only as storage.
Lads, learn how to use a VPN the right way and you don't have to leave your favorite provider anymore. I find it rather amusing to see how people are taking VPNs only as a way to consume pirated material.
There's plenty of providers who wouldn't have a problem with you hosting stuff that you own the rights for or have a license to distribute for - then I suppose you wouldn't be asking this question on LET.
You started a similar thread in September 2018 ( see https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/151911/can-someone-recommend-a-cheap-anti-fake-dmca-dedicated-server-provider ).
After all of the suggestions made there, including Maple-Hosting, you went with Hetzner?!
Have you considered using a CDN like Cloudflare?
cloudflare forward all complaints to host provider
Which VPNs allow you to host? NAT firewall?
How to setup the server?
Is this even real? Cloudflare literally provides DDOS protection to almost every public tracker
Yes upon a DMCA or any other complaint to Cloudflare, they will give out Hosting Provider contact and IP adress. Plus they forward it to the hosting provider.
Port forwarding with DDNS. I use two out there: Mullvad and OVPN. OVPN is court-proven and do offer dedicated public IPs as a paid addon. I do take it forward by chaining them around so neither can see my origin IP but only each other's. Asking my hosting provider? They don't know beans about it, other than probably seeing me connect to VPN provider's servers already crowded with hundreds of users like me. Asking the abuse reports? In the trash bin by the VPN provider. Everyone is happy.
They do not give out the backend IP address to the party sending the complaint. They used to do it a very long time ago, but not anymore.
Well I got some DMCA porn complaints here where the party sending the complaint asks cloudflare for the IP in the comment box
And the sending party sent us a complaint with stating the IP as well
So I thought they still do it.
So the guys who complained ended up getting the ip or did they just ask for it? Kinda curious.
It seems to me they got it. Otherwise they wouldnt have stated it in their complaint they sent directly to us afterwards
Thanks.
Then how the fuck do trackers get away with it?
Maybe:
Cloudflare --> (Nginx) reverse proxy(s) (cheap vpss who can get banned??) --> Server
You still can put in things in between and still restore real-visitor ip in header.
Who knows.
Agreed with ^. I'm using OVPN on my hetzner server, 0 complaints since the public IP is the OVPN one.
this is good for you if Bucharest is ok https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/170126/kvm-2xe5-2680v4-2gb-ddr4-50gb-nvme-3-6tb-hdd-raid10-located-in-bucharest-telia-upstream
Verry limited quantity in stok. Also i do not allow any kind of porn ..
Do tell us you'd use a VPN for hosting a video streaming site.
Edit: oh you did, just not practical for a video streaming service and paying another third party and adding complexity and issues. (Downtime). That's pretty amateur.
That's the whole gist.
Complexity shifts. You deal with it somewhere.
That's true, especially with DDNS, but unless some kind of a coordinator service is handing out now-valid endpoints to the clients in real-time. So browser can switch out when downloading a segment or manifest fails.
Tell it to TPB.