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  • uzaysanuzaysan Member
    edited May 2020

    @larmarat said:
    I ordered a VPS from Dingus too, although mine seems to have 8 cores when I ordered the €5 one which should have 2, I can't really complain and seems to be working well enough (although I haven't had very taxing workloads yet).

    SSD and ram seems the right amount.

    Can you run a benchmark test with yabs.sh

    Simply run this command curl -sL yabs.sh | bash

  • alfinderaualfinderau Member

    Since this threat started with "Encoding" I encoded a 22 min h264 videoclip to h265 on Netcup and Dignus. As you know h265 encoding is pretty power hungry and slow.

    Netcup VPS: 2 cores, 8 GB RAM ("Root-Server" with dedicated cores)
    Dignus VPS: 4 cores, 8 GB RAM (dedicated/not dedicated, who knows :smiley:

    ffmpeg -i h264.mp4 -c:v libx265 -crf 25 -c:a copy h265.mp4

    The speed is about what you would expect: Twice as many fps on Dignus as on Netcup and around the half encoding time (~ 44 min on Dignus / ~ 94 min on Netcup).

    Netcup: encoded 32975 frames in 5669.70s (5.82 fps) 
Dignus: encoded 32975 frames in 2632.84s (12.52 fps)

    I got the same machine as @kim1406 mentioned:

    @kim1406 said:
    I purchased Vserver SSD-8G

    8GB DDR4
    4xIntel Xeon Gold 6148
    250GB SSD RAID10
    UNLIMITED Premium Bandwidth
    1 GBit /s connection Best effort
    1 IPv4/IPv6

    Here a Linux CPU report. As I ve already posted above: It's NOT the claimed Xeon Gold 6148.

    root@dignus:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 63
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2673 v3 @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 2
microcode   : 0x1
cpu MHz     : 2397.220
cache size  : 30720 KB
physical id : 0
siblings    : 1
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt arat md_clear
bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf mds swapgs itlb_multihit
bogomips    : 4794.44
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 63
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2673 v3 @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 2
microcode   : 0x1
cpu MHz     : 2397.220
cache size  : 30720 KB
physical id : 1
siblings    : 1
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt arat md_clear
bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf mds swapgs itlb_multihit
bogomips    : 4794.44
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 2
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 63
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2673 v3 @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 2
microcode   : 0x1
cpu MHz     : 2397.220
cache size  : 30720 KB
physical id : 2
siblings    : 1
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 2
initial apicid  : 2
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt arat md_clear
bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf mds swapgs itlb_multihit
bogomips    : 4794.44
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 63
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2673 v3 @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 2
microcode   : 0x1
cpu MHz     : 2397.220
cache size  : 30720 KB
physical id : 3
siblings    : 1
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 3
initial apicid  : 3
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq vmx ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt arat md_clear
bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf mds swapgs itlb_multihit
bogomips    : 4794.44
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

    Not sure if this can clear anything.

    But it's interesting how different the experiences with DignusData are. I myself like my 6 € VPS (used a code from another thread here which isn't working any longer) and can't complain about anything.

    Thanked by 1sebkehl
  • larmaratlarmarat Member
    edited May 2020

    @uzaysan said:

    @larmarat said:
    I ordered a VPS from Dingus too, although mine seems to have 8 cores when I ordered the €5 one which should have 2, I can't really complain and seems to be working well enough (although I haven't had very taxing workloads yet).

    SSD and ram seems the right amount.

    Can you run a benchmark test with yabs.sh

    Simply run this command curl -sL yabs.sh | bash

    Sure thing.

    Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) E-2134 CPU @ 3.50GHz
CPU cores  : 8 @ 3504.010 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 3.8G
Swap       : 2.0G
Disk       : 117G

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4kb           (IOPS) | 64kb          (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 76.47 MB/s   (19.1k) | 967.90 MB/s  (15.1k)
Write      | 76.68 MB/s   (19.1k) | 973.00 MB/s  (15.2k)
Total      | 153.16 MB/s  (38.2k) | 1.94 GB/s    (30.3k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512kb         (IOPS) | 1mb           (IOPS)
  ------   | -----          ----  | ---            ----
Read       | 215.47 MB/s    (420) | 128.69 MB/s    (125)
Write      | 226.91 MB/s    (443) | 137.26 MB/s    (134)
Total      | 442.38 MB/s    (863) | 265.96 MB/s    (259)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                          |                           |                 |
Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 787 Mbits/sec   | 920 Mbits/sec
Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 680 Mbits/sec   | 919 Mbits/sec
WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | busy            | 920 Mbits/sec
wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 883 Mbits/sec   | 922 Mbits/sec
Biznet                    | Bogor, Indonesia (1G)     | 499 Mbits/sec   | 102 Mbits/sec
Hostkey                   | Moscow, RU (1G)           | 899 Mbits/sec   | 485 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online           | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 780 Mbits/sec   | 828 Mbits/sec
Airstream Communications  | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 526 Mbits/sec   | 503 Mbits/sec
Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 779 Mbits/sec   | 825 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 949
Multi Core      | 2936
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2092174
    Thanked by 1uzaysan
  • king8654king8654 Member
    edited May 2020

    Performing Geekbench 5 benchmark test. This?may take a cGeekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    Single Core | 734
    Multi Core | 1442
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2092548

    2xcpu, unknown to every method, forget what i used last time, procinfo and others only show virtualization cpu.

  • uzaysanuzaysan Member

    @larmarat said:

    @uzaysan said:

    @larmarat said:
    I ordered a VPS from Dingus too, although mine seems to have 8 cores when I ordered the €5 one which should have 2, I can't really complain and seems to be working well enough (although I haven't had very taxing workloads yet).

    SSD and ram seems the right amount.

    Can you run a benchmark test with yabs.sh

    Simply run this command curl -sL yabs.sh | bash

    Sure thing.

    Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) E-2134 CPU @ 3.50GHz
CPU cores  : 8 @ 3504.010 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 3.8G
Swap       : 2.0G
Disk       : 117G

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4kb           (IOPS) | 64kb          (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 76.47 MB/s   (19.1k) | 967.90 MB/s  (15.1k)
Write      | 76.68 MB/s   (19.1k) | 973.00 MB/s  (15.2k)
Total      | 153.16 MB/s  (38.2k) | 1.94 GB/s    (30.3k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512kb         (IOPS) | 1mb           (IOPS)
  ------   | -----          ----  | ---            ----
Read       | 215.47 MB/s    (420) | 128.69 MB/s    (125)
Write      | 226.91 MB/s    (443) | 137.26 MB/s    (134)
Total      | 442.38 MB/s    (863) | 265.96 MB/s    (259)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                          |                           |                 |
Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 787 Mbits/sec   | 920 Mbits/sec
Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 680 Mbits/sec   | 919 Mbits/sec
WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | busy            | 920 Mbits/sec
wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 883 Mbits/sec   | 922 Mbits/sec
Biznet                    | Bogor, Indonesia (1G)     | 499 Mbits/sec   | 102 Mbits/sec
Hostkey                   | Moscow, RU (1G)           | 899 Mbits/sec   | 485 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online           | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 780 Mbits/sec   | 828 Mbits/sec
Airstream Communications  | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 526 Mbits/sec   | 503 Mbits/sec
Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 779 Mbits/sec   | 825 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 949
Multi Core      | 2936
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2092174

    Thanks. What is the location?

  • larmaratlarmarat Member

    Estonia I'm pretty sure.

    Thanked by 1uzaysan
  • handyhosthandyhost Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2020

    Cheap == Hetzner
    You can go with their cloud plans (below $10)

  • kim1406kim1406 Member

    @alfinderau said:
    Since this threat started with "Encoding" I encoded a 22 min h264 videoclip to h265 on Netcup and Dignus. As you know h265 encoding is pretty power hungry and slow.

    Netcup VPS: 2 cores, 8 GB RAM ("Root-Server" with dedicated cores)
    Dignus VPS: 4 cores, 8 GB RAM (dedicated/not dedicated, who knows :smiley:

    ffmpeg -i h264.mp4 -c:v libx265 -crf 25 -c:a copy h265.mp4

    The speed is about what you would expect: Twice as many fps on Dignus as on Netcup and around the half encoding time (~ 44 min on Dignus / ~ 94 min on Netcup).

    Netcup: encoded 32975 frames in 5669.70s (5.82 fps) 
Dignus: encoded 32975 frames in 2632.84s (12.52 fps)

    I got the same machine as @kim1406 mentioned:

    I'm encoding using Handbrake on Windows Server 2012. I'm getting slow speed. One Animi eps. of 20:51 minutes takes 02:23:25 to finish.
    Do you think on Linux Os could be faster?

  • alfinderaualfinderau Member

    @kim1406 said:
    I'm encoding using Handbrake on Windows Server 2012. I'm getting slow speed. One Animi eps. of 20:51 minutes takes 02:23:25 to finish.
    Do you think on Linux Os could be faster?

    I use ffmpeg on Windows and Linux and coudn't say there is a difference but I have never compared both systems on the same computer with same encoding job. But I would say it does not make a significant difference.

    02:23:25 for an Anime of 20 min is indeed very long if your film is shot in FullHD, but I would call it "normal" if you encode a 4k video with codec h265 preset veryslow and use some tune and filter options, which means: It all depends.

    So, you should check and optimize your Handbrake encoding settings for the desired quality and file size, I don't think it's a matter of operation system.

  • kim1406kim1406 Member

    @alfinderau said:

    I use ffmpeg on Windows and Linux and coudn't say there is a difference but I have never compared both systems on the same computer with same encoding job. But I would say it does not make a significant difference.

    02:23:25 for an Anime of 20 min is indeed very long if your film is shot in FullHD, but I would call it "normal" if you encode a 4k video with codec h265 preset veryslow and use some tune and filter options, which means: It all depends.

    So, you should check and optimize your Handbrake encoding settings for the desired quality and file size, I don't think it's a matter of operation system.

    My video file is 1440x1080, and I'm encoding with x265 fast encoder preset. Same settings in another dedicated server will finish in half the time.

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