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Lol @ this weak dodge - such an obvious lie.
For anyone who has not been paying attention: @jbiloh's comment history
Want more frequent update on LET directory.
@jbiloh
@jbiloh what the hell man the other day I told you exactly what you would need to do to get this back on track and yet you ignored everything I said and still you bullshit.
I tried to say it as discreetly as possible, but now I am just gonna say it: Stop the shit and be transparent. IDGAF if CC was responsible or Deluxe you need to own up to up to the shit that has gone down explain what/why what happened did and just take some responsibility and begin to make things better. This stuff happened under **YOUR **management and you need to own that shit.
Personally I would be surprised if these were sold to you personally at this point. I know I can find out, and will do so on Monday. I think you are fronting for the "company" because what you say is bullshit.
If you have people working they are not working hard as I could tranfer all this to a new platform in less then a day with minimal downtime. Do not try to play a playa they say and I have seen much better then you will ever be try to play people.
You are still spewing the same rhetoric as Woothosting and the like have and always did. Just own up to it, stop trying to pass the buck and fix shit. Keep doing this and by next year this and LEB will be nothing but garbage, and may not be here at all anymore.
Are you telling me that LET's ultra efficient installation of Vanilla can't handle
30 requests/second3 requests/second on the search page?Nah he is spewing bullshit as usual is all.
Please, show me where.
I've gone through your posts since December 2019 and the only stuff that TOUCHES on the subject is listed below.
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3068863#Comment_3068863
"Yes they went boom we try not to make it happen again. Also, they were our customer and we promoted them, but look at us being good guys and giving you additional days to get your data. Applause please."
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3068938#Comment_3068938
Comment above is not providing any form of clarity.
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3077697#Comment_3077697
Thanks for clarifying on that. NOW HOW THE HELL DID IT HAPPEN?
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3078405#Comment_3078405
None of the above actually specify how the hell it happened. They only ASK the community about what to do if it happens AGAIN.
We've been reporting concerning providers. For years, even during periods where there WERE ads on LE[BT]. Nothing got done with it. Remember hostnamaste?
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3079383#Comment_3079383
Future plans, again, do not explain what happened in the past
Found this too:
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3078173#Comment_3078173
Out of the 16 I linked, 14 still break the rules. Plus two more that were quickly fixed after I pointed them out.
And to circle back to this comment:
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3077697#Comment_3077697
So, that is an admission that you DID favor CC-based providers in the past, even though Chris specifically told us "changes were coming", referencing my "look how many CC-based providers are on LEB" infographic?
eagerly waiting for evidence
need fully managed CC selektor ok?
Footer's still there.
Or, y'know, an actual real identity (whether that is a 'government name' or a nickname)? Being vague about this really isn't helping your case.
Or if you don't want to disclose their identity because they're not a part of the community (understandable in and of itself), that leads to the next question: why are things being written by someone who isn't a part of the community, and therefore can't have a finger on the pulse?
You're trying to run this like a cable TV network, when what you should be doing is running it like the community people want it to be.
Guys, keep reality in mind!
Of bloody course very ugly things happened around @jbiloh - but keep in mind that in not very small companies like CC lawyers are all over the place. And with Deluxe, a multi-billion $ group you hardly can go to the bathroom without a lawyer.
This means three things:
(a) Deluxe certainly knew what kind of company CC was when they bought it. A company like Deluxe doesn't invest a dollar without having bean counters and lawyers doing "due diligence" first. "due diligence" is the nice word for what normal people call a full body inspection incl. spread legs and bending over nude.
(b) In those corporation it's all about "responsibility" which translates to doing whatever indecent things one does to get at more loot but making sure to pass guilt to someone else.
(c) Don't expect jbiloh to spill any beans. Doing that would equate to inviting extensive "examinations" from Deluxe, with "examination" meaning jbiloh finding guilt (see above) in front of his door along with some smelly dead bodies in his closet.
Unless one is a lowly employee one doesn't just quit such a corporation. If one does it is with a clear understanding to never ever spill any beans, not even a small one. So, don't hold your breath waiting for jbiloh getting talkative re CC/Deluxe.
@jbiloh
Pardon me but I think that your explanation "only CloudF*%&# can provide the protection we need" is BS and very expensive BS at that. One can almost always get cheaper services that are possibly even better technically..
Plus: LET/LEB are attractive targets but not top class ones.
Plus: protective actions start on ones own site.
Well noted, you pay the bill, so you choose. But kindly don't tell us that your choice was basically forced upon you.
The issue is that just like in the past when we tried more advanced searching it was exploited by those looking to take the website offline.
Absolutely happy to examine other solutions and suggestions though in watching the attacks for the past five years CloudFlare has been required to keep things online in most cases.
She is not part of the community and I am not going to make her name public. In the past we've tried to do a content bounty program and it was difficult to get reliable submissions. @trewq and I talked about this a few days ago and we are actually going to take another try at involving the community in the content creation.
Yeah I sent an email about it last night, it was overlooked among all the other changes. Should be pulled out soon as the person gets around to it -- hopefully today.
I'm not going to provide any more details than I already have. If you wish to believe that Low End Box and Low End Talk are still owned by Deluxe that is your prerogative.
And lastly, regarding the hosts that failed. It happened because just like any other host that fails, too much expansion, too many bills, not enough growth and not enough customers paying bills. Usually that also means service problems. Customers got hurt. ColoCrossing got hurt (didn't get paid for a long time). Everyone loses there. So more oversight is obviously required so that those events can't happen again. That's all I can and will say about it.
Lol
For application-level attacks, rate-limit requests to those endpoints by IP and you're generally done. If not viable because of a large botnet with many different IPs, do a global rate-limit so that at least an attacker can only break that search endpoint and not the entire site; that makes it much less rewarding to an attacker.
I do hope that that means properly(!) paying community members to write posts.
I don't know which past bounty program you're referring to, but if it's of the "submit something and if it's good enough we'll pay you" variety like most "bounty" programs, it's no surprise that you didn't get good submissions; good authors don't generally do spec work and risk getting nothing for their work.
The way to get good posts is to hire a specific person from the community to write them, and guarantee compensation.
OK.
@joepie91 if you have suggestions on how we can structure the content bounty program I'd really like to hear them. Your feedback is really appreciated.
Well, my suggestion is basically exactly as described above: don't do a "bounty", but hire someone competent from the community to do the writing and let them bill you by the hour, like for any other sort of custom work. That's really all there is to it.
Anything that isn't guaranteed to pay someone for their time (in a commercial context, like this), will attract subpar contributions.
Guys, stop adding to this thread: it's just a SEO ruse!
Since it started, I can see bugger all of a difference to LET..
Witness LEB offers, the footer etc.
As others have said, actions speak louder than bullshit words.
/thread
Attaboy.
Have anyone in mind? Or what the pay should be? Or what the expectations should be?
Customers didn't get hurt. They got scammed.
All signs point to ColoCrossing turning a blind eye, if not being the enabler. Let's review the facts:
You've done nothing to clear up the situation at all and have done zero to convince us you weren't the ones behind the scam in the first place. You keep saying CC/Deluxe doesn't own this place anymore, but to us that literally means nothing. To us, you were CC/Deluxe, so in reality nothing has changed.
I don't know why I'm even writing this because I know the type of response (if any) I'll receive. You won't accept any responsibility. You won't tell us what really happened. I guess this is more of a reminder for the rest of the community to take anything you say with a fucking mountain of salt and to realize this place isn't in any better hands just because it's not longer owned by CC/Deluxe.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
But - but - changes were coming!
Seriously.
What.
The.
Bloody.
Fuck.
@teamacc We have no ties to whoever registered/held the domain in 2016. If you look at our domain we registered it in 2018. A cool name we chose, now learning it had history?
Do we need more reasons for joining the other place? Head on to https://talk.lowendspirit.com for a scam free experience.
I have no concrete recommendations as I haven't really been active on LET lately, so I don't know exactly who are still active - but I'd recommend looking at the recent posts on LET, and picking out someone who is 1) good at digging into sketchy companies and 2) good at writing easy-to-understand explanations and summaries of information. Basically, someone who can do what LowEndAdmin used to do.
As for pay: that depends on whether you intend to hire someone as an employee or as a freelancer. If as an employee, probably whatever the going rate for a copywriter in that industry is. For a freelancer, I'd just ask whoever you've picked out whether they're interested and what their hourly rate is (as freelance rates are typically initially set by the freelancer, not the customer, and then haggled on during negotiation).
Not sure what you mean with "expectations". If you mean in terms of availability, assuming a freelancer, you'd probably want to ensure a minimum weekly availability in hours or so. In terms of quality, if you're paying someone hourly you can usually expect the same quality as their previous work (or forum posts, in this case) or better.
Paying per post is probably a bad idea, as that gives someone reason to try and rush it.
Edit: Also, I realize that this is LowEndTalk and it doesn't hold true that strictly for servers, but it definitely does hold true when hiring people: pay peanuts, get monkeys.
From whois on losangelesvps.com:
Not saying this proves they aren't related, but it could easily be someone else since the domain expired and was re-registered since the past stuff.
Technically possible, but in that case, who are you? Like, as a person? Who are the team behind the company? Because the site isn't very talkative about that, and the address in the WHOIS is a Digital Realty datacenter.
@jbiloh do you think we are a buncha brain-injured people or what? Ma Dio cane, now you will come here to tell us the story that everything is normal as if we were intelligent like radiators, don't even give a coin to someone advertised by jbiloh.
Did you really think we wouldn't have noticed?
You don't even learn do you.