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' Supreme leader for life' is a time tested strategy in Russia. 🎭
When they run out of scapegoats to distract the population , grab your popcorn/local peasant equivalent.
Just like everyone is happy with Kim Jong-un - because saying otherwise puts your life in danger.
Russia is not a democracy, and the last few years it has become more and more apparent to me that the mafia in charge will not respect the rights of anyone at home or abroad, even those bringing money into the country, which is why I've been moving away from all my domains and IT services rented from Russian companies.
There is no point in me paying for any service in Russia if Putin's mob-state can and will invalidate any contracts at will.
Unfortunately, this has led me to not buy services from any nearby countries either, since Russia doesn't respect their sovereignty either
Even if your day job is creating IP, your free time work shouldn't belong to anyone but you
For a change: does anyone here know the relevant Russian laws re copyright of software created by employees?
Also note that both persons detained for interrogation are Russian and so is the company (Rambler) claiming the rights to said software. I don't find anything strange with Russian authorities looking into something with Russian citizens and a Russian company. Also keep in mind that the case opened by Rambler dates way back, long before F5 purchased nginx.
Funny then that the current leader declined an offer to a 3rd presidency in 2008.
Come on, stop the BS! Just one example: pussy riot who created trouble way before becoming well known in the west actually got public funds as "artists". Another "artist" who hated his own country and become famous for nailing his balls to the ground fled oh so evil Russia. In France he did the same thing he had done in Russia, he set the door of a major institution (the national bank) on fire - but unlike in Russia in France he really got a long and hard jail sentence. Now he dreaming of going back to Russia.
Feel free to believe whatever you please but if you accuse someone then you need proof. So again: where's your proof?
Proof?
I'm sorry to inform you that Russia doesn't have the slightest chance to win the race against the USA and her friends to illegally invade other countries or to drive them into revolution. All the evil Russians have to show is 2 meager cases, Ukraine for which there is no proof and Georgia which they left after a couple of weeks and did not "re-invade" it although a Russia hating president came to power there.
I hope this won't effect the nginx project since it's been acquired by a US company, there is nothing on the nginx.com website or their twitter so I guess not. I hope the US nginx project supports their legal fees...
But more importantly, I hope all goes well for those arrested and this whole thing doesn't cost them their whole career as these things often do...
The copyright should be separately stated in employee's contract. Otherwise, the company has no intellectual rights, by default, on whatever employee creates. It is claimed that when Nginx author, Sysoev, has been hired, he was explicitly allowed working on his own project (with no copyright claims from employer).
It's interesting part of the issue. One of former Rambler's top manager persons, Ashmanov, commented that the Rambler's claim is, literally, bullshit with no merit (see the document via the link below).
There are details of the Rambler's claim and police raid (in Russian):
https://habr.com/ru/company/itsumma/blog/479942/
Also, the fun fact is Rambler group appeals to Civil Codex article published in 2006, which cannot govern the assumed infringement happened in 2004. The whole case looks very moot.
Looks like gang-style attempt to take as much control and money from suddenly successful software product, as possible.
Shakedown, or as it's called in Russia : #1 Business model.
In russia VDS (virtual dedicated server) = VPS (virtual private server)
is it the same system administrator = Software development ?
This is the end of Rambler at least, russians love their nginx I'm from Russia and it always a lot of fun to read in how terrible country I live in. Reality virtualized too deep in the "western" media. btw I'm really hard working, but happy and proud of my country.
Thanks for the information! I guessed that it was smelly and probably an attempt by Rambler to play a strange game but I lacked the full information, so thanks.
As with most things in reality - it's not black & white... it is gray.
1)
Define what you mean by "democracy", so we know what we're discussing about.
2)
Do you know about:
Edward Snowden
Julian Assange
Guantanamo Bay detention camp
If so, could you provide a short list of countries that are a democracy in your opinion?
Well, I have stopped any political discussions in the internet several years ago, and just live my own live and just build our country... but you bullshit is so pure classic liberal bullshit, I think CNN or BBC must frame it in hall of fame or something LET need to know that must of Russians are not texteditors, we voted for Putin and Mordor (Sheldon!) And thank you for leaving. I have cheaper LE VPS offering in Russia than in EU now It was just unreal some years ago.
Why raid an office and take open source code which is available on their website
I guess it was to find evidences (or not) on how the code was initially developed. If it was really during his spare time, that Igor developped Nginx. Or/and, if he uses resources from Rambler. Beside public source code, there can be other documents produced during the development.
In any other civilized country such a copyright-claim would be dismissed. But Russia? I'm not so sure...
Okay, so all the money I made in my free time belongs to the company I am working for... F*ck...
Yes, experts recommend OpenLiteSpeed.
No. USA has far more aggressive copyright trolling practices. In Russia this 'copyright' incident is a simple action of greed and corruption. It has nothing to do with real copyright, it's just plain and simple mafia/oligarch manipulation with justice system.
Height of stupidity.
If someone develops something in free time at home or cafe, how can his/her employer claim the ownership of that product.
They just need some % of 670m. Shitty corruption.
Depends, if its your private pornhub fork, surely not.
But, if he did commits, to a company project, he is maybe loosing his rights on his code.
That's what you get paid for, you are writing code and you get paid by your employer.
Would be stupid, if you could take that code and sue them afterwards for using it.
Welcome in Russia
Depends what is in your contract with your employer. It is not uncommon in the US for their to be a clause in your contract that states any projects worked on during work hours can be considered work product of the company and thus belong to the company. This appears to be what they are claiming was the case here -- while employed and on the clock working for them he produced the code, so they are claiming the code should then be intellectual property of the company instead of him.
Surely he must have pissed them off pretty good or they believe the code he produced to be worth lots of money or they wouldn't be pursuing this so aggressively, one would think.
my 2 cents.
Cheers!
This @jsg dude is full of shit and/or stupid.
Problem is, "free time" in the past has often been proven to be during work hours or used work resources (used work computer to remote into home PC and work on it, even if it was just that 'one time') or benefited from resources/knowledge/skills learned from day job.
Holy fucking Christ, you're right out of 1984. Proof? Proof? That's rich. You want proof water is wet, too.
You NEVER provide any and run away when people do. You just don't want to know so you don't see and read the shit the rest of us do. You defend Putin as not evil, yet you know sweet fuck all about him. The murders (rise to power in KGB), the theft of public money (evidence in the Foseca papers, others attribute up to $200 billion under Putin and family), tortures, blocking political rivals, breaking missile treaties, poisoning enemies (Russian citizens!!!) etc. SMH, you're pathetic and disgusting. Do some fucking research before you embarrass yourself some more. You're seriously out of the loop and it's ridiculous to be that obtuse. It would be one thing to acknowledge it but accept it like how a Mafia boss somewhat keeps the criminal underground in check (or Saddam Hussein or Gaddafi kept various terrorist groups from getting out of control), but to outright deny it? You're just weak.
Are you false flag Russian pretending to be German? You're sketchy as fuck.
Point 2 are verified broken laws and unrelated to democracy. Not sure what your point was here. Snowden us a US citizen and Assange isn't. Both published classified documents, illegal in any country with highly classified documents and jeopardized many lives as a result. I do understand that Snowden shouldn't have needed to leak classified data if every one played by the rules, but the rules broken doesn't change democratic Republic of US. The Guantanamo Bay is for foreign combatants and not US citizens for political reasons.
Unless they posted classified data on voter fraud or Manchurian candidate, it's irrelevant to democracy.
Sorry, @TimboJones but the winner isn't you, it's @xaoc. Reason: you at least rant a bit, albeit usually intellectually lost, ill informed, and incongruent. xaoc on the other hand just spills his (indeed very) personal "conclusion".
Thanks to both of you for the amusement.
@jsg all you're good at is forming sentences. Empty tho quite pretty. :P
??? There's nothing to "win" but I also know you're a big loser. You have no shame and have no pride in putting out good work or being well informed.
I am actually more convinced than ever that you're just a Russian stooge based on time and time and again not making convincing arguments and repeatedly saying stupid shit with nothing to back it up. Your goal is not to convey truth or educate, just to confuse, divide and deny. Case in point, I don't know if you typo'd "incongruent" and meant something else, because it describes you better than me. I've been consistent and would tell you all this to your face if I knew you in person. I've called you out on several things (from transgender discrimination to Putin loving) and will continue to do so. Incongruence my ass.
@timbojones Like Russian car, it doesn't go anywhere and just make co-passengers mad.
Just step out before winter and walk.