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ip v4 will get impacted after ipv6 come out

geek2009geek2009 Member
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Hello there

ip v4 will get impacted after ipv6 come out?what is your remark?

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  • sanvitsanvit Member

    I thought IPv6 is already out?

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  • AuroraZAuroraZ Barred
    edited June 2019

    @sanvit said:
    I thought IPv6 is already out?

    It has and this thread has no meaning.

  • uptimeuptime Member

    i am disappoint

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    IPv6 has already come out of the closet

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Type writer will be dead soon after first office computer come out. What is your remark?

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  • uptimeuptime Member

    make your time gentlemen

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  • geek2009geek2009 Member

    we run a large number ipv4 block.it is time to sell them.upset....

  • caracalcaracal Member
    edited June 2019

    Yes ipv4 is useless now. Time to dump

    (no)

  • eastoncheastonch Member

    IPv3 was where it was at...

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Well, your life is impacted if you get married or even a child.
    Your be done by then, no drugs, no free time, all gone.

    IPv6 does not impact IPv4, but it fucks me off, everytime someone does not offer v6.
    That kinda indirect impacts everyone, especially these who claim bullshit and still 8 years later they do not have v6.

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  • cybertechcybertech Member

    Who needs ips when we have bunnycdn

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @uptime said:
    make your time gentlemen

    Fatal error: response not possible due to impacted IP4. Aborting.

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @cybertech said:
    Who needs ips when we have bunnycdn

    Well, Dejan enabled v6 finally now. so its prem again.

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  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    @sanvit said:
    I thought IPv6 is already out?

    He meant out on CC.

    You guys are not reading between the lines :wink:

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  • dahartigandahartigan Member

    It's not 3.6 roentgen, it's 15000!

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @dahartigan said:
    It's not 3.6 roentgen, it's 15000!

    its 25000.

  • ITLabsITLabs Member

    Forget about IPv4 and IPv6... IPoAC is the future!

  • uptimeuptime Member

    atErik said:
    Hi, requesting for KVM-VPS / OVZ-VPS from EU / US location , which can provide/include an Internet Routable IPv6 SUBNET & MUST Sub-DELEGATE the REVERSE-ZONE of that assigned IPv6 SUBNET to my-domain's DNS-NameServer running in the VPS . Assigned IPv6 SUBNET should be atleast-one IPv6 /64 SUBNET , ( i will prefer to have one IPv6 /64 subnet over having any other smaller subnets, like: /96 IPv6 subnet, etc )

    Objective is to allow my DNS-NameServer(s) able to setup/define the PTR/RDNS for any IPv6-Address from that assigned IPv6-SUBNET, for our project's Users.

    VPS-PROVIDER MUST BE ABLE TO SETUP/SUB-DELEGATE/POINT THE ASSIGNED /64 or /96 IPv6-SUBNET'S REVERSE-ZONE INTO/TOWARD OUR PROJECT'S DOMAIN/ZONE DNS-NAMESERVER(s).

    VPS/VZ-1:
    VZ-Type: OpenVZ , Number of CPU Cores: 2 or more,
    RAM: 2GB or more , Disk Space: 25GB or more , Disk Type: SSD/HDD,
    Bandwidth: 3TB or more , Port Speed: 1Gbps or more,
    DDoS-Protection: Not needed but better if available,
    Number of IPv4s: 1 , Number of minimum fixed/routable IPv6-Address: 10 ( NameServer, Mail, etc server-apps ),
    Must Set 1xIPv4 + 10xIPv6-ADDRESS's PTR/Reverse-DNS ( to match our domains ),
    Must be able to assign at-least one/single IPv6 /64 ( or one /96 ) SUBNET,
    Must be able to Sub-DELEGATE the REVERSE-ZONE of that assigned IPv6 SUBNET to our DNS-NameServer in VPS,
    Location: (almost any) EU location (except UK) , Any location from USA,
    Budget: USD $18/year or lower , Billing period: Yearly (via Paypal/Alipay).
    Not-oversold/not-crowded vps node provider is preferable.

    VPS/VZ-2:
    VZ-Type: KVM , Number of CPU Cores: 2 or more,
    RAM: 2GB DDR or more , Disk Space: 35GB or more , Disk Type: SSD/HDD,
    Bandwidth: 3TB or more , Port Speed: 1Gbps or more,
    DDoS-Protection: Not needed but better if available,
    Number of IPv4s: 1 , Number of minimum fixed/routable IPv6-Address: 10 ( NameServer, Mail, etc server-apps ),
    Must Set 1xIPv4 + 10xIPv6-ADDRESS's PTR/Reverse-DNS ( to match our domains ),
    Must be able to assign at-least one/single IPv6 /64 ( or one /96 ) SUBNET,
    Must be able to Sub-DELEGATE the REVERSE-ZONE of that assigned IPv6 SUBNET to our DNS-NameServer in VPS,
    Location: (almost any) EU location (except UK) , Any location from USA,
    Budget: USD $25/year or lower , Billing period: Yearly (via Paypal/Alipay).
    Not-oversold/not-crowded vps node provider is preferable.

    if possible for you to mention, then i would like to know, what would be your IPv4 /29 one SUBNET's per year fee.

    My family & partners/devs working on a project that must assign (fixed+dynamic) IPv6-address to our project's each User & setup PTR/RDNS for each IPv6-Address, etc . Project includes MAIL-server, IM, etc. ( We have sufficient IPv4s on other VPSes, for this project).

    Thanks in advance, for your offer/info.

    EXTRA-NOTES / EXTRA-INFO:

    Single/one /64 IPv6 "SUBNET" has 18-QuinTillion IPv6-"ADDRESS"es.
    Single/one /96 IPv6 subnet has 4,294,967,296 (around 4 Billion) IPv6 addresses.
    IPv6 /96 subnet is much much smaller subnet than a IPv6 /64 subnet.
    One IPv6 /96 subnet contains 4-BILLION TIMES LESS IPv6-addresses THAN One/Single IPv6 /64 subnet. You can create 4-BILLIONS VPSes Each with one /96 SUBNET, from just ONE /64 SUBNET.
    Suppose you have a IPv6 /32-subnet : You can divide it into 4-BILLIONS sub-parts/sub-portions, EACH with one /64-subnet = 18-QuinTillion-IPv6-Addresses, OR, You can divide it into 16-MILLIONS sub-parts/sub-portions, EACH with one /56-subnet.
    Suppose you have a IPv6 /40-subnet : You can divide it into 16-MILLIONS sub-parts/sub-portions, EACH with one /64-subnet.
    Suppose you have a IPv6 /44-subnet : You can divide it into 1-MILLION sub-parts/sub-portions, EACH with one /64-subnet.
    Suppose you have a IPv6 /48-subnet : You can divide it into 64-THOUSANDS sub-parts/sub-portions, EACH with one /64-subnet.
    Suppose you have a IPv6 /56-subnet : You can divide it into 256 sub-parts/sub-portions, EACH with one /64-subnet.

    There are some users/people who always worry/ask that Can assigning such amount of IPv6-addresses to only one VPS/user/client will finish-up all IPv6 ? <-- NO, even if world has 100 Billions or more Users/Devices and even if EACH is assigned ONE/single /64 IPv6-SUBNET (18-QuinTillion IPv6-Addresses), it will still be a VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY...VERY tiny fragment of vast IPv6 pool available or assignable (from IANA).

    When you want various benefit of AUTO configurations or SLAAC/etc and benefit of other standard (internet routable) IPv6 features, then its better to use IPv6-addresses from IPv6 /64 subnet for the VPS.
    When you end-up using a (internet routable) IPv6 /96 subnet ( or any other smaller subnet than the minimum standard /64 IPv6 subnet, for the VPS ) then you will miss some of the standard IPv6 features & you may have to assign fixed-IPv6 or use DHCPv6/etc ( instead of SLAAC ) for dynamic allocation, etc, etc, but for most server-side server-apps, a /96 subnet is still sufficient, ( as long as VPS-provider's Nodes are configured fine).

    VPS-Provider either (a) must have/running their own DNS-NAMESERVER(s) and have/own /32 /48 /56 /60 or /64 etc IPv6 Subnet/Blocks/pool from their ISP, OR, (b) have obtained /48 /56 /60 or /64 etc IPv6 Subnet/Blocks/pool from their USP(upstream-service-provider) IPv6 Assigning Authority, OR, (c) have obtained /32 /48 /56 /60 or /64 etc IPv6 Subnet/Blocks/pool from related regional Registries (RIR) under IANA , or (d) have obtained /32 /48 /56 /60 or /64 etc IPv6 Subnet/Blocks/pool from IPv6 Tunnel-Brokers (TB) . VPS-Provider's ISP ( or VPS-provider's USP or TB ) must Sub-Delegate Reverse-Zone for the assigned/obtained IPv6 subnet/blocks toward the VPS-Provider's DNS-NameServers ( or toward the VPS-Provider's Client/User/Customer DNS-NameServers ) . Then such VPS-Providers can further SUB-DELEGATE (Reverse-Zones) for further fractional/portion of IPv6 subnet/block (from their own pool) toward their Client/User/Customer/VPS domain/zone's DNS-NameServer . After setting up DNS-NameServer ( Reverse-Zone Delegation ) to point toward the next down-level NameServer ( Client's/Customer's DNS-NameServer ) , VPS-Provider need to configure their DHCPv6 ( or SLAAC, etc ) allocation server, & allocate the fractional SUBNET ( which was setup for Delegation toward Client's/User's/Customer's DNS-NameServer ) from their primary SUBNET pool , toward the IPv6-enabled network-interface of Client's/User's/Customer's VPS.

    IPv6 Reverse-Zone Sub-Delegation Setup Process is similar ( though not exactly same ) to the process of Setting up a IPv4 Reverse-Zone Sub-Delegation for a /24 /30 etc IPv4 SUBNET, toward a Client's/User's/Customer's DNS-NameServers/VPS:
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8501
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2317
    https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/configuring-reverse-dns
    https://simpledns.com/kb/77/how-to-sub-delegate-a-reverse-zone-ipv4
    https://www.netdaily.org/tag/29-classless-reverse-delegation-bind/
    https://serverfault.com/questions/433400/ipv6-reverse-dns-delegation
    https://www.gestioip.net/docu/ipv6_reverse_dns_delegation.html
    https://serverfault.com/questions/521799/delegating-24-and-64-reverse-zones
    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115924/zone-delegation-in-bind
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4472
    https://www.royhochstenbach.com/delegating-reverse-lookup-zones-for-big-subnets/

    i have copy-pasted various sections from various webpages & written this post message quickly from my own understanding , so there may be mistakes & discontinuity in the flow of submitted message here , sorry about that.

    Please DO NOT MENTION Any VPS-Provider's Name/Plans Who Cannot Provide at-least one IPv6 SUBNET , i understand some VPS-Provider cannot/don't-want-to understand/setup Reverse-Zone Delegation ( thats why i provided extra-notes & links , it is matter of simple few lines in "named.conf" & related files ) . But please keep in mind , i posted this message only to find-out who or which offer/plan/deal(s) can DELEGATE Reverse-Zone for the assigned IPv6 subnet.

    PLEASE AVOID MENTION of VPS-Providers or Plans/Offers/Deals which include only one/few IPv6-"ADDRESS" or NO-IPv6 or NO-IPv6-Subnet. Thank you.

    AGAIN, PLEASE DON'T MENTION ANY VPS-PROVIDER'S NAME/PLANS WHICH CANNOT PROVIDE ANY IPv6 "SUBNET"/"BLOCK".

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  • tetechtetech Member

    @geek2009 said:
    ip v4 will get impacted after ipv6 come out?what is your remark?

    NEED PHP SELECTER OK?

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @geek2009 said:
    we run a large number ipv4 block.it is time to sell them.upset....

    Then sell me. I am buying it for $7 for every /24. Trust me, it is a good deal

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  • levnodelevnode Member

    Don't you see his username? geek2009. I think he did travel time to the future?

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  • uptimeuptime Member

    is @geek2009 is from future

  • vimalwarevimalware Member

    TIL IPV6 is gay.
    You go girl!

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    Answer is

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @Amitz last time I checked you had a brain and do not speak English as your first language.

    Enlighten me, given that you have had to get used to communication online in English, lets pretend its 1989 and you do not speak or understand English yet or perhaps only to a very basic level.

    If you had a burning question about the next steps in the internet world and the fall of IPv4 and rise of IPv6... a complicated topic indeed with lots of technical language!

    Would you head over to a Japanese forum badly translate your question and then hope to have any chance of deciphering the responses rather than going to a German Forum?

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited June 2019

    @AnthonySmith: Sure. I was rather stupid back then. And it was on Usenet. I learned quickly after the first reactions of other users to my postings there... :smirk:

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Amitz said: @AnthonySmith: Sure. I was rather stupid back then. And it was on Usenet. I learned quickly after the first reactions of other users to my postings there...

    Roger than, so we will consider this a youngster who does not know any better then :)

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  • AmitzAmitz Member

    Yes. Let's stay positive. Even though life gives us no reason for that! :smiley:

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    When I come out of a 10 year coma the first thing I'm going to do is hop on LET and ask about technology.

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  • donlidonli Member

    @sanvit said:
    I thought IPv6 is already out?

    And someday might actually be implemented at all datacenters.

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