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[SoyouStart] E3-SSD-1-32 Flash sale
Hello,
I promised to have a SSD flash sale on SYS, here it is
Available FR / CA Datacenter (very low stock @ BHS (CA) datacenter)
+20€ setup fee
https://www.soyoustart.com/en/essential-servers/
https://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/
Cheers
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Why is this on general? Also you can't post dedicated server with setup fee.
How many times is this now? The rules aren't that hard to grasp :P
ECC RAM would have been great.
To be honest, all our servers SYS/ KS "flash sale" are always including setup fee. I didn't remember about this setup fee rule though. I can stop keeping you guys in touch about these, but seemed you were demanding.
& Sometime it's not me who creates the post about a flash sale.. I don't put more infos.
Keep posted here. For sure this flash sale isn't bad deal.
That's irrelevant.
It has always been there.
That's not a reason to give you a pass to skirt the rules. Hetzner just had to remove their thread because they also have setup fees.
I don't mean to come off as hostile here, but I know for a fact you've been warned in the past that your offers can't have setup fees and have to be posted in the 'offers' section. And no, you shouldn't be held to any different standard here as a provider just because people here like your products or are 'demanding'
I don't want any skipping pass. This rule does mean I can not post any offer like this on this forum anymore... then I will be compliant to this. About offer section you right, I should have putted it in offers section, just have seen similar post on general too.
Apologies for this,
ninzo59
@MasonR - I know in the past there have been folks who've posted on the KS flash sales (and they've been very popular threads as well) - in general most of these kinds of sales have always had a setup fee component as well. Is it that these posts are OK because it's regular (non representative) users post them as a service to the community?
I'm just wondering how to go about with these kinds of sales/deals postings - they're obviously valuable to us as a community and they do come from very reputed hosts as well.
I don't find any problem with it, it is not in the offer section.
So just to understand - one should NOT post in the Offer section if there is a setup fee? And as long as it is in one of the other sections it's fine? No other violation to worry about?
I know for both @ninzo59 and @Hetzner_OL who represent popular and reputed hosts here it's good to know this so that they can post appropriately and the community can still benefit.
That's correct. If someone else posts the deal, then it's fine. Or even if the provider posts it as a comment in an existing thread, that's fine. But a provider can't post an offer that blatantly doesn't abide by the rules just because it's in a different section of the forum.
Okay, cool. Let me post a few offers in the "General" section for dedis that have setup fees and are over the $84/mo limit, then, since we don't have to follow the rules any longer
(I'm just playing devil's advocate here. If OVH is allowed to do this and post offers that don't follow the forum's rules, then why can't everybody? Why have an 'offers' section at this point if they can just post their invalid offer thread in a different section?)
Regarding the actual offer, the EX42-NVMe from Hetzner with double the RAM for 5 EUR more seems better value to me. I bought two a couple weeks back. Used OVH for 10 years beforehand, but their prices just aren't as sexy as they were back then. Good while it lasted.
I hear you
So hypothetically speaking if @ninzo59 were to post (say) in the Cest Pit (informing the insiders!) and one of the
snitchesothers were to repost this (as a non-offer informational post) we're all happy rule abiding LETizens?It's just that I find these offers to be very valuable and I'd really hate to not know about them because of
bureaucratic hurdlesrules.Yes, that's perfectly acceptable. Nothing preventing that.
Just don't get caught doing that as a provider (as in having an alt non-provider account to post offers like this) or you'll catch a banhammer pretty quick :P
Where is @Neoon when we need him - you need to sneak up on @ninzo59 and post faster than him. Then we'll all be in the clear.
That's right. But the deal is still decent, and these are supposed to be available in CA (never was available each time I looked) which is interesting for those looking for that kind of machine in North America.
Well, sometimes I am lazy, and yea I noticed, everytime SYS or KIM gets changes, they run into caching issues.
Every fucking time, and they wont fix it.
So I already knew, oh new offer.
This is stupid. When a rule is obviously getting in the way of what everyone actually wants, why have such a rule. Reminds me of some disfunctional dictatorship states in their latter days, right before breakup.
Another thing, @MasonR it seems puzzling on what authority you are policing this forum, while you do not have a Moderator or Administrator status on your profile.
They even apologized
Thats the difference between ovh and hetzner
I think we'll have to follow some sort of a democratic process to get the rules amended to allow whatever it is that the majority want. I don't know but I guess it is something to consider if this is indeed what appears to be popular opinion/desire.
He's just politely pointing out a violation of a normally enforced rule and he's perfectly within his right to highlight it - I don't think anyone took offence to it at all.
The rules are there for a reason. Every single offer that's been posted with a setup fee has been removed in the past, why make an exception now? Just because everyone loves OVH? Nah, that's not cool.
By formerly being a mod, I know what the rules are and the "loopholes" providers sometimes try to weasel their way through. I've personally removed at least one of ninzo's offers in the past for being posted in the wrong category and not following the forum's rules.
Call me a concerned LETizen or whatever you want, my apologies for caring about the community. Maybe I'll just bite my tongue next time as rules are broken and this place goes to shit.
I thought about it.... but Canada is already out of stock.
I see.
Well.. didnt mean to make any rebellion here.
I m fine publishing on offer section. About setup fee.. lot of hosters do ones (online, hetzner, us). But except OVH brand (not SYS nor KS) since there are mostly setup.. I couldnt post those deals.
As reminder, I m mostly here to provide info, and you (LETusers) are very helpful with your feedbacks (even with some trolls
).
Sorry again, will follow rules now !
Tbh without joining either side here: If one can just ignore the offer rules and post in general surely the rules are not meant to be kept. That would mean that anyone could post any offer in the general section without following the rules at all since it is not the "offer section". Often enough new providers get voted down or get trashtalked because they:
a) Don't follow the offer rules.
b) Post their offers in General
Is this to say there are no more offer rules? Don't get me wrong I don't want to come over as being offensive here but even though I appreciate SYS keeping in touch with us, this is the wrong way to handle it. Either allow it for ALL hosts to post their offers in general neglecting any of the offer rules which would make offer rules pointless as people could just post the offers they want to in another section. Or: Cut the setup fee thing from the offer rules and allow it that way for everyone too.
Just my 2 cents.
Thank you for wording that better than I could.
Sheesh, we've seen enough of these flash sales before to have had it observed that they are generally accepted and welcome. As for total enforcement of anything, no thanks, we don't need a police state, there is room for discretion. Bureaucratic workarounds are also silly. And yes (re @nullnothere), it's obvious from other posters' comments that some members were annoyed by the intervention. I'm also an ex-mod but I would have been happy to pre-approve a post like that. I'd only hold back on subsequent ones if there was pushback from the community.
That said, the EU version of this offer is less exciting than the BHS one. Would like to have seen more BHS stock. Also ECC ram in the servers would have been nice. Why use non-ECC ram in a Xeon machine? Smh.
Of course, @MasonR is right about the rule.
However, it seems to me that the rule doesn't really capture what many people on LET are interested in. Everyone remembers the recent Kimsufi sale, which attracted a lot of attention:
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/155450/ks-4-flash-sale-2x2tb-for-8-99-9-99-setup/p1
The opening post was kosher because it was simply @Neoon informing us about the sale in the category General. Happily, @ninzo59 was around to answer questions, which people appreciated, but @ninzo59 wouldn't have been allowed to open the thread himself.
Something doesn't seem quite right about the rule as it stands.
It should be ECC, although 1600MHz RAM would have been great.
Instead of saying "No setup fees" (for dedicated servers), I might propose something like "Setup fee at most $21", where $21 is 25% of $84 (which is the maximum per-month fee for a dedicated server).