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MaxMind Downgrades China to an overall higher fraud risk.
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People: I don't want my info to leak!
Me: Take a look at yellow page (book version). If someone opted out of that, I can always look at online yellow page which ignores opt out, at least in my country.
oKaY, doesn't work always but that's my take on it.
I suggest that you cancel your support:
Qq.com 163.com 126.com sina.com 139.com
There are many more. These are the most commonly used free mailboxes in China. I suggest you block these.
Thank you for your clarification. Right now I knew why Chinese loves Virmach so much. Some suggestions, try ipip.net and experience the most accuracy IP geoloacations from them.
That is perfectly fine for me but as a provider I don't want to deal with people who don't trust me enough to tell me who they are.
Perfectly said!
What I tell everybody who orders with a VPN and fake info: "If you're withdrawing money from your bank with a ski mask on, you're either doing something you're not supposed to or you need to find a bank you trust."
First off, we Chinese are not used to pay with credit card because we have more advance payment system called 'Alipay' and Wechat pay, so can you tell me a reason why should we enter the correct billing information?
Secondly, most of the Chinese user order your extremely cheap VPS for building VPN/Proxies, is this disobeying any TOS?
Thirdly, if the hosting provider gets hacked, the user's information will leak. And as I know, the WHMCS doesn't encrypt user's billing information, who will take responsibility on the consequences?
Last but not least, as I know, Chinese buyers are one of the biggest groups of costumes in the hosting area. WHY ARE YOU REFUSING MONEY? FOR YOUR PURE LITTLE RACISM OPINION?
This is a paypal issue 9/10 times.
I dont know about China but in the USA/EU companies are legally obligated to collect accurate billing information when providing service, aside from that we have customers on our servers and we dont like anonymous users having free reign without any accountability.
The problem is more when they don't read the TOS at all, so yes sometimes it is they run tor for example.
No one forces anyone to order, people choose to order, they also choose to ignore the terms. that is the problem.
What kind of costumes are you in? Girls'?
A consumer has the right to choose with whom they want their service to be deployed; same apply to the provider as well. If your country, ip or your email provider is marked as high-risk profile, that is your problem, not the providers.
Here we go again
I don't like to pay by credit card. I use Alipay and WeChat to scan the two-dimensional code directly to pay for it conveniently and quickly.Credit cards are out of date in life.
I guess the only reason people use MaxMind here is WHMCS has built in support.
Excuses are always endless.
Juse be well prepared before you sell, and it depends on whether you want to do business or merely make sales.
Useless point, Chinese customers everywhere (Like me in Britain), and Maxmind can not recognise us :P
China blocked many links, such as Google, and almost all products were blocked. VPN is required for access. Many users are unable to access the provider's website, and users choose to use VPN to order.
Careful there! There are also perfectly valid reasons for that. An important one being that (a) not every provider acts carefully with customer data, (b) there have been/are quite some cases where providers were hacked (sometimes from the inside) or had internal struggles leading to customer data being exposed.
The problem is that even the best meaning providers can't be sure that they won't be hacked and they also can't somehow magically pull back customer data once they are hacked/leaked and on the internet. And once the customers data are out there, tough luck for the victimized customers.
Plus the chinese customers might actually need to provide false data because possibly (not sure, not a chinese lawyer) having a server outside China or in particular when saying certain things on those servers (say a bog) might lead to ugly consequences for them.
That said, I'm not blindly defending the Chinese. I do believe the providers here that with chinese customers there is a higher probability of refund, paypal disputes, and generally trouble.
And I guess that's the core of the problem. Both sides have reasons to not trust each other.
To be fair, 99% of people don't read ToS because they cannot understand it.
Either due to language barriers or plain stupidity.
But the real and immediate consequences and risk are almost all on the host.
And this may be why Bandwagon and Virmach earned a lot from Chinese customer but you don't
Why not just buy from no-question-asked providers? Something like Cockbox
This is nice. We are all taking to walls.
Choice?
Like the Chinese aren't guilty of racism themselves. It's not just Whites and Blacks but other Asians as well. Unfortunately the rest of Asia isn't much better. I've lived, worked and traveled there enough to say this with ABSOLUTE certainty.
So when I hear them scream RACISM now, I can't help but laugh at the utter hypocrisy.
Is there any solid proof that Bandwagon and Virmach earned "a lot"?
What's "a lot" in lowend terms? 70 dollars?
I agree. I think most of them are due to server failure, server line failure, poor business attitude and inconsistent with the information advertised, which will cause customer dissatisfaction / refund.
Because most of Chinese customers don't understand English, not to mention reading the TOS.
I wonder why don't these IDC indicate directly 'We do not accept order from China because we don't understand Chinese, so we can't provide quality service to Chinese customers.' and translate these into Chinese? In this way Chinese customers will keep away from your website.
From what I've seen, Japanese look down on every other asian sub-races. Koreans look down on Chinese and Chinese look down on everyone else but whites.
Then why order from hosts that don't offer service in Chinese and then make what is not understood the hosts problem?
Tried that @FAT32 helped with the translation, made no difference.
Because it's cheaper and better.
Of course, that doesn't excuse them but they don't care.
Ha ha, I agree. Chinese mother tongue is not English. It is true that more than 90% of people choose to leave them.