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Do people actually want 64mb plans?

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 2012

    Signature updated. :)

    @Basshost I guess its not worth it if you have a shortage of IP's or are paying every moth for your addresses.

    I will always be keeping this restricted to a small amount per node and only once the Node is pretty much full.

  • If we could have the main IP to be IPv6 I would offer it.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 2012

    Its a PITA to set up initially but you could always set up a local subnet on a separate bridge and allocate/NAT a port range to each user, they can the login via the out of band console if they don't have native IP6 and configure their sshd to run one one of those ports allocated.

    Its a pain to initially manage but once it is set up its done.

    I think there would be a market for IP6 only too.

  • Removing paypal subscription is ok, guess?
    (I prefer to manage my own payments by myself)

  • 3 available

    that was quick

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @Spirit yes that is absolutely fine.

    @breton 7 Sold I reduced the number after initially setting it to 20 to see how it goes and to see if all the people that confirmed they know how to manage resources correctly with only 64mb ram during order really do or just want a cheap deal :)

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited February 2012

    Some details in case of curiosity:

    CPU model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz
    Number of cores : 1
    CPU frequency : 3066.702 MHz
    Total amount of ram : 58 MB
    Total amount of swap : 63 MB
    System uptime : 3 min,
    Download speed : (21.8MB/s)
    I/O speed : 70.9MB/s

    ioping -c 10 /
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=1 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=2 time=14.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=3 time=16.1 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=4 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=5 time=9.8 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=6 time=18.0 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=7 time=0.3 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=8 time=0.3 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=9 time=0.2 ms
    4096 bytes from / (ext3 /dev/xvda1): request=10 time=0.2 ms

    --- / (ext3 /dev/xvda1) ioping statistics ---
    10 requests completed in 9060.9 ms, 168 iops, 0.7 mb/s
    min/avg/max/mdev = 0.2/6.0/18.0/7.3 ms

    Run "apt-get remove grub-legacy grub-common" to get rid of "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
    It's fine lil' VPS and with my previous inceptionhosting service experience I believe worth of a money.

    Thanked by 1djvdorp
  • yomeroyomero Member
    edited February 2012

    I was having some fun wih... Debian 4 lol. Some days ago I was looking for a template with this OS xD But I think I will look in the OpenVZ side and reinstall this one with a proper distro :P

    By the way, you do PyGrub? (Or that stuff to run my own kernel and so)

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Sold out :)

  • Bah, I got called by MaxMind for nothing? -_-

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    If it makes you feel any better it cost inception hosting money to have them place that call :)

    If yours is the order that got marked as fraud open a ticket I am sure I can squeeze just 1 more in :)

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @spirit check 'cat /proc/meminfo' look near the bottom for "DirectMap4k: 65536kB"

    That's how much RAM you actually have to use, the 'free -m' command never give a 100% accurate readout in XEN PV especially in lower ram configs.

  • @AnthonySmith said: If it makes you feel any better it cost inception hosting money to have them place that call :)

    Damn! Sorry about that but it's not my fault.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    No worries its only a few cents :)

    I just replied to your ticket.

  • @AnthonySmith it's ok. I ran "standard" LEB script by @camarg (LET user) only for informational purpose. /proc/meminfo show DirectMap4k: 65536 kB indeed.

  • Would make a nice seedbox too i think! If it is allowed though.

  • @AnthonySmith said: Sold out :)

    Bugger, sold out before I even woke... Snooze you lose I guess

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    I think that would be a bad idea, torrent clients are not exactly lightweight when it comes to resources. :)

  • djvdorpdjvdorp Member
    edited February 2012

    @AnthonySmith said: I think that would be a bad idea, torrent clients are not exactly lightweight when it comes to resources. :)

    Really? I got Rtorrent on one of my VPSes with constant 50mb ram, debian 6 x86. Legal stuff only though. And I can't imagine it uses a lot of CPU power? Got like 20 seeds, CPU between 1-10% max.
    Tasks: 11 total, 2 running, 9 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie

    (PS: the Really? was no sarcasm, always willing to learn something new)

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @Adam I will be monitoring the way they get used resource wise over the week, if people don't make this end up being a bad idea I will open up more stock at the weekend.

    Few OS choices have raised an eyebrow so far :)

    1 x Attempted CentOS 6 64 bit template, obviously wont even boot :)
    1 x CentOS 5 + OpenVPN Access Server, (recommended minimum for AS is 512mb) so that's going to end up living in swap more likely and end in IO Abuse suspension.
    1 x Arch 2011 64 bit and a ticket asking how to set a default gateway (Not auto configured by SolusVM in Arch)

    So honestly it is not a great start despite calling the package ExpertsOnly and having 2 check boxes confirming you understand how to manage resources on a 64mb VPS and that SWAP is not a substitute for RAM during order.

    Not the end of the world though I expected it to happen, but it is probably the reason there are not more low resource true Low End Boxes around.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @djvdrop, keep in mind this is a XEN PV VPS so you don't have as much available ram as you would on a OpenVZ VPS with a shared kernel, also torrents cause HEAVY disk I/O R+W

    rtorrent is fairly light on RAM and CPU but hammers the disk just as much as the others, very few people bother preallocating.

    If its a XEN VPS your using maybe you should write a guide, running your own kernel + rtorrent with 20 seeds at 50mb is quite impressive.

    Thanked by 1djvdorp
  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    I have 20+ web pages with PPTP, OpenVPn and IPSEC, MySQL, BIND, on a 512MB XEN machine and still have like 200mb free RAM with no swap

  • You should add a few more before next week (:

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    If people want them drop me a PM I will use it as a waiting list and if it turns out to be viable sooner I will let people know when they are available.

    There wont be much more than 10 extra ones though for a while.

  • Debian 5 + PsyBNC living happily on one of these. Seems good so far

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited February 2012

    Debian 6.0 + PsyBNC living happily on one of these too. Seems good so far

    @AnthonySmith did some of those 10 people or so which ordered it actually open support ticket that this and that doesn't work and require assistence? :)

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider
    edited February 2012

    @spirit .... yes :) but I expected as much, its only a matter of time before someone tries to install cPanel and demands I provide a free license :p

    /industry_making_me_cynical

    Thanked by 2TheHackBox Aldryic
  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep
    edited February 2012

    Can somebody do a download test with one of those 64MB VPSs? The reason we don't offer anything lower than 128MB for Xen PV is because our tests have shown that RAM has a direct impact on the download speed (https://securedragon.net/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=45).

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited February 2012

    Sure :)

    64MB vps - inceptionhosting

    cachefly

    wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test -O /dev/null
    --2012-02-21 02:40:17-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[=================>] 104,857,600 27.0M/s in 3.7s

    2012-02-21 02:40:20 (27.0 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]

    leaseweb .de

    wget http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin -O /dev/null
    --2012-02-21 02:47:34-- http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin
    Resolving mirror.de.leaseweb.net... 2a00:c98:2010:1:1:face:d06:f00d, 46.165.198.1
    Connecting to mirror.de.leaseweb.net|2a00:c98:2010:1:1:face:d06:f00d|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[=================>] 100,000,000 5.23M/s in 19s

    2012-02-21 02:47:53 (5.12 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]

    leaseweb .nl

    wget http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin -O /dev/null
    --2012-02-21 02:49:03-- http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin
    Resolving mirror.nl.leaseweb.net... 2001:1af8:4030:1:0:dead:beef:cafe, 94.75.223.121
    Connecting to mirror.nl.leaseweb.net|2001:1af8:4030:1:0:dead:beef:cafe|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[==================>] 100,000,000 19.5M/s in 4.9s

    2012-02-21 02:49:08 (19.5 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]

    128MB vps - inceptionhosting

    cachefly

    wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test -O /dev/null
    --2012-02-21 02:59:42-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 140.99.94.175, 140.99.93.175, 140.99.94.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|140.99.94.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[==================>] 104,857,600 11.9M/s in 9.2s

    2012-02-21 02:59:51 (10.9 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]

    leaseweb .de

    wget http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin -O /dev/null
    --2012-02-21 02:59:55-- http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin
    Resolving mirror.de.leaseweb.net... 2a00:c98:2010:1:1:face:d06:f00d, 46.165.198.1
    Connecting to mirror.de.leaseweb.net|2a00:c98:2010:1:1:face:d06:f00d|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[==================>] 100,000,000 7.89M/s in 15s

    2012-02-21 03:00:12 (6.42 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]

    leaseweb .nl

    wget http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin -O /dev/null
    --2012-02-21 03:00:31-- http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/speedtest/100mb.bin
    Resolving mirror.nl.leaseweb.net... 2001:1af8:4030:1:0:dead:beef:cafe, 94.75.223.121
    Connecting to mirror.nl.leaseweb.net|2001:1af8:4030:1:0:dead:beef:cafe|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[======================>] 100,000,000 33.0M/s in 2.9s

    2012-02-21 03:00:34 (33.0 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]

    Speed seems more than decent with both plans and it isn't minus factor for me but I can do more tests tho'

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @KuJoe

    few things.

    Disable TC on the node.
    Check IP_Conntrack values while downloading
    If your nodes are still on the SolusVM Default upgrade the xen/tools versions to 4.1.x
    Make sure you have manually tweaked the tcp_rmem and stacks etc in /proc/sys/net and core

    I had the same issue as your KB link a while ago but NEVER got below 100 mbit, even with 32mb ram, I think you have a different issue there.

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