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I don't get it either. Only explanation I have come up with so far is that a lot of developers are not the same type of people as admins. They don't want to have to mess around with an operating system and a Mac is about as hands off pointy clicky of an OS as you can get.
Most devs I know of use ThinkPads, not Macbooks...
When you hate on Macbooks you just haven’t had a taste of trying to build a working software product in a broken environment.
But Mac isn’t a perfect OS, it’s a lot less chaotic when you’re trying to focus on your work though. Don’t buy a Macbook if you can workaround all the crap you get with Windows machines.
I think I’m not alone if I say Macs have become an interesting option ever since Windows started trying too hard to be special vs a true workhorse like 7 or XP...
Macs are in because you need it to build ios apps.
now gihub is not alone anymore
Gitea is trending. No idea why.
I'll be needing a hotmail account to login soon!
The problem is that being that kind of person is "costly" in demanding a lot of attention and work to get things going in the first place. So the question is how much work and efforts one is willing to invest before (and during ...) one can do the kind of work one actually wants to do. Using Ubuntu translates to big user community, lots of support, answers to questions and problems just 1 google search away. Using some more exotic OS and some more exotic hardware translates to lots of time and efforts just to get and keep a working system.
For some that happens to be their area of interest and work and that's OK. God bless them because we all profit from their efforts and work. If however ones area of interest and/or work happens to be one of the many other areas then going that route is wasteful and unnerving.
I myself like probably many developers (but not the majority) am somewhere in between. I am pissed off enough by most of the standard routes to invest quite some research, learning, and work to find/achieve a better solution but I won't deviate far into exotic territory wrt OS and basic tools.
With Microsoft I'm somewhat split. On the one hand they have been
assholesuhm a tough large corporation for decades and I'm not ready to trust them easily but I keep my grown instinct to stay away and tend to avoid them or to at least be very mistrusting. On the other hand they have done or financed a lot of research quite a bit of which is really important and has been done together with universities around the world plus they have open sourced and/or made free community editions of many tools and things so there obviously HAS been some change of mind.Being at that I do and will not use extremely bloated and obviously insanely designed tools like vscode and Visual Studio. Pardon me but an editor in the 100+ MB range or an ide in the 10+GB range is a confession of incompetence and a perversion and not a tool.
That matches my observation. That said most developers usually don't work on a notebook anyway but on a desktop. But if they use a notebook it's probably a thinkpad (probably T series) unless they are the travelling kind of developers giving talks at conferences in which case they seem to belong to the apple crowd.
My friends is moving to Gitlab.
I never knew you could fit a whole person in a repo! Such wow
Not just one. His friends are moving.
True. The gNewSense guys are a tiny, tiny minority. Much more common (at least in people I know) are the Ubuntu users whose ethics are slightly more practical.
Heck, there are people out there who use OpenBSD laptops.
Really? For decades MSFT spent billions on R&D and no one could figure out where the money went.
Google, Apple, Oracle, etc. spend billions on R&D as well but it comes out in their products. For those companies, I can point to a lot of products where they were first in some market (or invented a market) or where they've introduced genuinely new technology.
Microsoft has never had a breakthrough product in their entire history. I'd argue their most interesting R&D was their powered-through-the-port mouse patents back in the 80s.
What important technologies has Microsoft invented?
Why no love for Bitbucket around here? Should I be checking out Gitlab instead? They apparently have a way for me to import all my Bitbucket stuff so I may do that just to check it out and have a backup.
Yeah, the Microsoft Mouse was cute and innovative at the time (1983):
For those in typography, the OpenType format for fonts was a significant contribution.
It’s probably that little device that they take into large corporate and enterprise customers that when enabled, emits an inaudible noise that clouds the minds of those present and convinces them to spend more money with MS despite all the shit and broken promises as a result of the last big spend.
Probably the way I said it was ambiguous. Sorry for that. I didn't think or talk of anything big that everyone knows of like their mouse.
Microsoft has spent quite significant amounts in diverse research colaboration projects most of which are more or less about safety and security. One example is the many millions they poured into their Inria (french university) research colaboration which lead to the F-star language which is used to create a (actually the first and only) safe TLS implementation.
Granted those millions are probably insignifcant pocket change when compared to e.g. what they spent on developing their game console but my point wasn't "Microsoft is great and a nice friendly company" but rather was "there has been quite some change in a positive direction".
Microsoft is OBVIOUSLY NOT a company I trust or like, quite the contrary. But they are somewhat less evil than formertimes which was my point.
I don't find MS evil. But I don't trust them. Well, I don't trust companies in general. Having said that, I don't trust anyone really.
Of course, my attitude is the opposite of Apple lovers who simply love to throw money away for nothing.
MS hardware is typically garbage in my experience. Worst wireless kb/mouse I ever owned was MS. Battery lasted for like a couple weeks and this was something they were selling only a few years ago. Not bleeding edge stuff. My Logitech batteries last for at least a year.
Ah, but the Microsoft Mouse pictured above was well-regarded. :-)
Personally, I'm not a fan of wireless keyboards or mouses of any brand.
Haven't recent Surface models received positive reviews? (They look nice, but when I see the price tag ...)
Hm, so will any of you sue MS for mental damages and trauma?
Like the guy who sued some hosting company for painkiller and other bills?
Yeh, why not? It seems we have some people here who were severely traumatized by MS. If so, they do have a case.
The
joke just writes itself.
Dude, I'm talking like 1983. There was no wireless back then...and I don't mean just bluetooth. Fuck, unless you were a billionaire, there were no cell phones back then.
If you didn't make your own custom boot floppy, then after the OS loaded, you had to put a different diskette in to load the mouse driver. And I don't mean hard plastic 3.5" diskettes...
Long story short, Microsoft was oddly a pioneer in mice technology considering that their first mouse was made in 1983 and Windows 1.0 didn't come out until 1985 (and no one used it much until 3.0 in 1990).
Ironically, I really like Microsoft hardware, even though I think most of their desktop software is shit. I still use a MS natural keyboard, and the Trackball Explorer is one of the greatest mice ever - as evidenced by the fact that used ones still go for $150 on eBay.
Internet Explorer / Edge
I guess that's a pretty strong term. I did think that when they bought a bunch of patents that could vaguely relate to unixy things and started threatening the Linux community with them, all the time not wanting to reveal what they were so the community could fix the supposed issues, was starting to look like "evil". The covert funding of the SCO group's plan to collect royalties from Linux users was also not a particularly proud moment in their history, in my opinion. There's many more examples, but how one characterizes that kind of behavior is personal I guess.
Since they started the cloud business and are now making money off of Linux and are using Linux for some of their internal stuff they don't seem to be acting evil towards Linux anymore. Actually, that all seemed to be a Steve Ballmer thing. The evil seemed to leave after he left.
Oh, let's hope Github won't go down the drain.. hah imagine if we had to login to Github with a Hotmail account.. that won't be fun.. Anyways The amount of traffic to Gitlab is amazing... their servers are about to explode.. I'm sure of that.. Gitlab's website is loading as if it's running on a Pentium 3, 64MB RAM, a quarter of a core server hah
Microsoft has a light touch these days after an acquisition, so just like with LinkedIn not much would change with Github.
Pavin.
Someone hacked Giteabot account.
If you downloaded Gitea in a last couple of days, your system may got compromised
https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/4167