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Microsoft bought out Github

YuraYura Member

How do you feel about it?

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  • (duplicate from c'est pit)

  • How long before they make it Windows only? Or just abandon it all together.

  • ArchieArchie Member

    Bad news, RIP github

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  • It looks like the folks behind GitHub are about to be $7.5 billion richer. So, congrats to them.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-buys-github-for-7-5-billion/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=25228217977682094125682289962659

    However, when I think about Microsoft owning it, it feels to me like they are trying purchase credibility with developers versus fostering it. I don't really see them as the "big evil corporation" any more. Now, they seem more like the 40-year-old guy in the night club trying still trying to be cool.

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  • bad thing happen soon?

  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor

    @jaypeesmith - merged your thread into @Yura's as he beat you by a few minutes :P

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  • adxnadxn Member, Host Rep

    Let's hope it doesn't end up like CodePlex.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Another Monday, another drama. Monday rarely disappoints.

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  • HxxxHxxx Member

    -Gitlab
    -Bitbucket

    Plenty of options.

  • Already using gitlab, worth the switch. If anyone needs a safe haven let me know.

  • gitlab wants to be everything devops, programmer needs. too bloated.

    • gitlab.com cant handle their current user base (IDK how they handle if people start migrating from github)

    I gave up on Gitlab after they change the interface few times. Now we're happy with gitea.

  • vovlervovler Member

    If microsoft doens't change anything, it will be as good as ever. But they will change something, for sure.

  • Let's hope Gitlab's decision to go all-in on cloud instead of bare metal holds up with the refugees.

  • @vimalware said:
    Let's hope Gitlab's decision to go all-in on cloud instead of bare metal holds up with the refugees.

    Likely some growing pains for everyone as the mice flee the sinking ship.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Here's a fun stat from Gitlab on new repos. See if you can spot the exact moment when Microsoft's acquisition was announced.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    jaypeesmith said: It looks like the folks behind GitHub are about to be $7.5 billion richer.

    I find it hilarious that the author of git, Linus Torvalds, is not a penny richer as a result of this transaction

  • sezingsezing Member, Host Rep

    I don't think windows will ever change GitHub system. If they do.. i don't want to think that.

  • ricardoricardo Member
    edited June 2018

    raindog308 said:
    I find it hilarious

    :(

    Depends what Linus' motive is I suppose. I'd feel that effort and motives that generally benefit other people is a good thing.

    Unless you're a young lad being sarcastic, which you're not...

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    ricardo said: Depends what Linus' motive is I suppose. I'd feel that effort and motives that generally benefit other people is a good thing.

    Linus's original motive was "I hate bitbucket". I don't think he envisioned Github when he wrote git.

    I never got the sense that Linus was a particularly noble person or that he created Linux out of any altruism. From everything I've read, it was "hey, I'm working on this project, anyone want to help?" and it took off.

    Of course that doesn't mean Linus is a bad person or anything.

    I think Linus is the poster boy for how to create software and stay poor. His operating system is arguably the most popular on the planet, and certainly in the top 3. His version control system is the most popular on the planet. And he's made exactly $0 from either.

    If VA Linux hadn't kicked him a few mil (totally as a gesture) back in the dot com days, he'd be a middle class programmer. In fact, until they did that, RMS had actually made more money on his license (as a result of a MacArthur prize) than Linus made on his code.

    On the other hand, Microsoft has made thousands of millionaires, and those people were just contributing to the product, not creating it/driving it.

    I realize there's a lot more to github than just hosted git, but still...

    Reminds me of Apple jailbreaking. Why are there no jailbreaks any more? Because people realized they could make millions selling vulnerabilities to hackers instead of giving them away for free.

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  • Yep, I guess it's the olt life just isn't fair.

    Still, I'd put him in the better 50% :)

  • marcin.mmarcin.m Member
    edited June 2018

    raindog308 said: And he's made exactly $0 from either.

    Not really true... he earns income from the Linux Foundation and, quite frankly, his operating system and his version control system might not actually be popular if it weren't free. Just look at (non-free) Minix.

    And some people just aren't motivated by lots of money. If Linus made billions from his creations, he'd have to hire 24/7 private security + fend off all kinds of money-grabbing lawsuits and scams. He doesn't have to worry about all that shit being an ordinary middle-class guy with a house and a decent, stable income for life. He still gets all the perks of being a mini-celebrity and distinguished figure in his field, too.

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  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    It was nice being able to file bugs to thousands of projects all from one login, without having to sign up in every fucking Bugzilla or Flyspray on the planet.

    As for the good side, we can be thankful that at least it's not Oracle.

  • VitaVita Member

    Well we will see soon I guess. I just hope it won't be like Skype and Nokia.

  • LeviLevi Member

    Vita said: I just hope it won't be like Skype

    Skype got head-shot from Facebook. Skype it-self was not bad peace of software for what it does.

  • raindog308 said: Linus's original motive was "I hate bitbucket".

    Not exactly true. You probably meant BitKeeper, the distributed, proprietary solution that was being used for managing the kernel code for a few years; eventually, BitKeeper stopped providing a free of charge version and they needed something else to replace it with, which is how the demand for something like git emerged.

    Interesting read from that time: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/14/torvalds_attacks_tridgell/
    That effort of creating an unofficial client with more capabilities than what was available in the free version of BitKeeper (but was available in the paid one) was mentioned by BitKeeper's parent company when they decided to stop offering the free of charge option.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    rm_ said: As for the good side, we can be thankful that at least it's not Oracle.

    Well...

    Oracle's track record for improving their acquisitions is pretty good. They've consistently made MySQL better with every release. You can argue license, etc. but the fact is that MySQL post-Oracle is much better than MySQL pre-Oracle.

    Which is not to say that Oracle isn't a monstrous megacorp bent on world domination, etc. However, Oracle is at least a technology company - they make their money doing R&D and bringing the fruits to market.

    Microsoft really isn't a technological company. They've spent billions on R&D...can anyone name a cool product they invented? Because what I remember is that Microsoft has always been a me-too company.

    • Office? The landscape of dead word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation companies is vast and Office was always a me-too.

    • SQL Server? The last of the major commercial RDBMSes to be developed.

    • Windows? Yeah because GUIs were so new when they came out with it...snark...

    • OneDrive? You mean the Dropbox clone?

    • Cortana? Oh you mean Siri with a different name?

    • SharePoint? You mean the Microsoft-branded wiki?

    • Azure? You mean the AWS clone?

    • Bing? Come on...

    • XBOX? LOL.

    Yeah, Github will really thrive there...

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 2018
  • From a business perspective, it made total sense for Microsoft to acquire Github. A large majority of their Open Source projects, namely CoreCLR along with ASP.NET and EntityFramework is being developed on and hosted on Github.

    If they control the platform that they do development work on their programming tools and data access frameworks, they can either seriously cut down on the costs or control what they deem desirable in their .NET code.

    That being said, I wouldn't be too surprised down the road if Microsoft decides to retire their version of Github, namely VSTS in favor for Github all the way for their offerings that comes along with Visual Studio as a service.

  • LeeLee Veteran

    GitHub as a company was spending it faster than they could make it, it was going to be sold to someone soon enough, that would always be the highest bidder with the most interest, whatever that would be.

    The management (those that benefit from the 7.5bn stock) at GitHub thank you all for the tireless support that has allowed them to throw you under the bus by selling to Microsoft, they could not have done it without you. In the end, it more often than not comes down to the money.

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