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  • So @BrianHarrison , @concerto49 and @Jacob , just to confirm, you all have no problem with knowingly allowing your services to be used for illegal activities by your customers? Curious as you all are hosting is in the US and I am pretty sure it is against the law. Just want to get this on record.

    Please come here and tell me you believe that based on the OP you believe he is going to use it for only "legal" torrents so we can all have a good laugh.

    Cheers!

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  • MatiMati Member

    @TheLinuxBug said:
    So BrianHarrison , concerto49 and Jacob , just to confirm, you all have no problem with knowingly allowing your services to be used for illegal activities by your customers? Curious as you all are hosting is in the US and I am pretty sure it is against the law. Just want to get this on record.

    Please come here and tell me you believe that based on the OP you believe he is going to use it for only "legal" torrents so we can all have a good laugh.

    Cheers!

    you from RIAA? ;)

  • Nah, just tiered of these threads on LET and them not being moderated. It makes it look like exactly what I said in both of these threads, that LET supports use of their board to advertise illegal services. Hopefully by pointing out to the providers that these threads get archived in Google and now when people search it will show they have no issue with offering their services for illegal use they will rethink this going forward. If this wasn't their intent, then they should clarify this and stop supporting these types of threads. LET is not here to help people find a cheap place to illegally download content (at least I hope not?) and these sorts of threads should not be allowed if this is the case or moderated to reflect as much.

    Cheers!

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  • @Zen

    LOL, ya, I am sure they are only hosting their own homemade porno and non-copyrighted material, because, you know, there is so much of that out there that people need 1Gbit connections with 20TB transfer a month to be able to download and share it all.

    Tell me another story too good to be true and I won't believe it either.

    Cheers!

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  • @TheLinuxBug said:
    Zen

    LOL, ya, I am sure they are only hosting their own homemade porno and non-copyrighted material, because, you know, there is so much of that out there that people need 1Gbit connections with 20TB transfer a month to be able to download and share it all.

    Torrent as a protocol is not illegal in most countries including the US. No provider here actively polices torrent servers to see if content being shared is copyrighted or not. Unless you have proof to believe that the OP is going to share it for illegal activity, what reason do you have to accuse the providers of aiding and abetting illegal activity?

    Even if it is illegal activity, it is upto the copyright owner to file a complaint with the provider, and if the latter fails to respond, you have the right to air your imaginary grievance. I heard that the US has apparently released an army of trolls to destroy online liberty. Are you one of them?

    The internet has an ancestry built in freedom of speech and expression. Unless you're deputed by the RIAA, please..spare us the policing around of internet forums. Last time I checked, asking about a service was not illegal. Nor is it yet illegal to operate a torrent server.

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  • concerto49concerto49 Member
    edited August 2013

    @TheLinuxBug said:
    So BrianHarrison , concerto49 and Jacob , just to confirm, you all have no problem with knowingly allowing your services to be used for illegal activities by your customers? Curious as you all are hosting is in the US and I am pretty sure it is against the law. Just want to get this on record.

    Please come here and tell me you believe that based on the OP you believe he is going to use it for only "legal" torrents so we can all have a good laugh.

    Cheers!

    That's definitely not the case. In fact we've suspended/terminated many users over abuse / issues against the law as required. IF you do find this as a fact, please present the information and contact us @ https://www.cloudshards.com/contact.php with a valid report and we'll gladly take action.

    However, does that mean all gun shop needs to close because guns may be used for killing? I understand the OP's usage is questionable and where you come from.

    Take note that there was a thread earlier requesting a seedbox http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/12975/need-vps-for-seedbox-cheapest and I never responded in that one due to the OP requesting NOT to respond to abuse reports. We definitely DO, so that would be against our policy.

    There are subtle differences.

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  • iSkyiSky Member
    edited August 2013

    @TheLinuxBug said:
    Nah, just tiered of these threads on LET and them not being moderated. It makes it look like exactly what I said in both of these threads, that LET supports use of their board to advertise illegal services. Hopefully by pointing out to the providers that these threads get archived in Google and now when people search it will show they have no issue with offering their services for illegal use they will rethink this going forward. If this wasn't their intent, then they should clarify this and stop supporting these types of threads. LET is not here to help people find a cheap place to illegally download content (at least I hope not?) and these sorts of threads should not be allowed if this is the case or moderated to reflect as much.

    Cheers!

    then that was really good that you're not the moderator at here
    and if you're one of the moderated
    i think this LET will not have so many members to look for the LET thread
    because you strictly everyone to open and asking around

    @Zen said:
    torrent != piracy

    it was more about privacy
    cheers to you

    @TheLinuxBug said:
    Zen

    LOL, ya, I am sure they are only hosting their own homemade porno and non-copyrighted material, because, you know, there is so much of that out there that people need 1Gbit connections with 20TB transfer a month to be able to download and share it all.

    Tell me another story too good to be true and I won't believe it either.

    Cheers!

    Lol that was i think you had do and still doing that

    @joelgm said:

    i really love about this quote
    Freedom not being controlled
    if he really to try a joke
    then why not trying to shutdown any provider because they have potential to break copyright matter

    @concerto49 said:
    There are subtle differences.

    cheers for you sirs

  • @joelgm and @concerto49
    I applaud both of you for your forward thinking attitude on the matter.

  • @iSky So just to confirm, you will not be downloading or uploading ANY illegal content what-so-ever from your account? If not, then you can choose almost ANY host that is on this forum as long as you are aware of how to not abuse IO and CPU with your clients. So, back to my original point, why would you have to ask in a public open thread, "Hi all i was looking for VPS or Dedicated that allowing to use be seedbox?" If what your wanting to do is not illegal? As long as you are not abusive, you can do it with (almost) any provider.

    I am pretty sure since you felt obligated to start a new thread and ask who "allows" it that the content you intend to be seeding is likely not legal and you wanted to know that if you were downloading illegal content if the host would just ignore it. (At least that's the general understanding I got from your post) Especially with such ridiculous resources that you requested 20tb on Gigabit? Seriously? That is like 10x more than you would likely personally use in a month, so it also stands to reason that you would be sharing your illegally obtained content with others.

    If you can actually explain a situation where you both need to "confirm the allowance of seedboxes for LEGAL uses" and you need "20TB at 1Gigabit" then I will gladly stop coming into these threads and pointing out the obvious. I really doubt you can come up with a valid argument (with evidence) that can support your "this is going to be used legally" argument.

    Cheers!

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  • KupolKupol Member
    edited August 2013

    Well I don't know about you guys, but my company uses bittorrent protocol to share our internal documents and files between offices and clients among different cities. We run 3 Atom dedicated servers in major cities with 2x1TB. The monthly traffic is around 15TB-19TB per month. We share raw photoshop files, uncompressed videos and other digital media that we have created or were ordered to make.

    So I understand that someone might be looking for something like that.

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  • iSkyiSky Member

    @Zen said:
    We can just copy paste one of the better responses to you from the past 2 years or so of 'piracy' trolling you have done ^_^. After all your argument and the response almost never differs.

    thank you very much zen for bringing out the quote
    that's explaining what "15 Years IT Experience in Linux/Windows Hosting and Administration"
    if this post and the thread was really annoying about the "seedbox" "bittorrent" or anything kind peer-to-peer things
    i think maybe we can close it just not to make someone comment like that

    also is it state that no body have right to ask something about server at here
    or maybe something about seedbox, dedicated server, torrent or anything ?

    EVEN if i said i was using it as illegal content storage, some of it are allowing it.... what i point is the cheapest dedicated server right now, i was outside EU after all
    nothing to said.......

    cheers to zen for the nice quote ^^

  • @Kupol said:
    Well I don't know about you guys, but my company uses bittorrent protocol to share our internal documents and files between offices and clients among different cities. We run 3 Atom dedicated servers in major cities with 2x1TB. The monthly traffic is around 15TB-19TB per month. We share raw photoshop files, uncompressed videos and other digital media that we have created or were ordered to make.

    So I understand that someone might be looking for something like that.

    It seems people are missing the point, so I will see if I can spell it out for you. If you weren't concerned about the legality of your content (i.e. all content is legally owned by you) you would just be looking for a dedicated server that suits your needs because you already know you won't have to worry about DMCA and you are the owner of the content. In the case where someone has to open a thread asking for a location that someone allows "seedboxes" it is pretty obvious what they are looking for. If the torrents are legal and you understand how to limit the resources on your bittorrent tools, then you wouldn't have to worry about asking this question. As long as you are not abusive, most hosts will allow you to run a bittorrent client unless you get a DMCA. If people don't want to be "trolled" about this topic, then they should use a little more (common sense) brain power before opening their threads and consider the implied meaning of their request. I will agree there are valid uses for bittorrent as you have mentioned, however, the OP does not read like that was his intentions.

    @Zen my response doesn't change because it is always the same ill thought out thread which is obviously meant for use for illegal torrenting. I am not sure if the hosts who come in these threads and offer services actually consider how it looks for them when they do this, so I usually try to point this out for them to think again about what is being asked in a publicly searchable (from google) thread on here. @concerto49 had a good response, and I can appreciate where he was coming from, but this way, it is also publicly known that he does not support illegal use of his services and will follow-up with any legal requests.

    The pre-ColoCrossing LET did not allow these threads to begin with. It is only recent that this subject has been let slide on this forum. Overall it does offer a comment on how ColoCrossing feels on the subject, as this thread is representative of their business and what they allow by not moderating it.

    Cheers!

  • iSkyiSky Member

    ok for our wisest 15 years IT Experience in Linux/Windows Hosting and Administration Sir @TheLinuxBug i wanna request to close or even delete this thread. and no one to ever read this thread again..... maybe i would pm the moderator here to close down

    peace for you sir ^^

  • @TheLinuxBug if someone would come here with "Hey, where can I download new James Bond rip..." I would be the first to react. But that's not the case here. Not even close.

    This forum is dedicated to various internet technologies. We talk about them on daily basis. It's completely natural that we touch here and there also other aspects of internet. And so it happen that someone ask something torrent related. Nothing against law. Just related. But very rare. And then you come here with accusations in attempt to make impression how this forum support piracy, how we support illegal content and what not.. and I dare to say that this simply isn't true.

    Your "zomfg, this forum is like HackForum now and CC support illegal activities" is just silly. I can't comment HackForum content as I am not familiar with however I open LET atleast ten times on daily basis and I know a little bit about content here. You're overreacting. Not just a little bit, but A LOT of overreacting. Just because someone ask here and there something torrent related this doesn't make forum "full of illegal content" - that's product of your imagination.
    If there would be anything illegal you wouldn't look for drama but simply report (flag) it and we would deal with it. But you don't do this. Why not? Because you know very well that those RARE threads (yes, in contrary to your writings those torrent related threads are rather exception here) don't do any damage, don't harm anyone and yet you act like it would be some terrible illegal act and whole forum dedicated to it.

    Next time when you scream "look at this thread, LET is fuuuul of illegal activities and CC support them" make sure that it's really something illegal. Or even better - report it (this little "Flag" button above every post).

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  • maybe i would pm the moderator here to close down

    It would be rude to just close it after my direct reply to him. Lets give him chance to respond if he feels it and then close it, ok?

  • iSkyiSky Member

    @Spirit said:
    It would be rude to just close it after my direct reply to him. Lets give him chance to respond if he feels it and then close it, ok?

    its fine for me
    just learn someone like him to deal with even in today internet community
    and also maybe i should try to make a new 1 with "dedicated for reselling" label
    not like this anymore
    it was like i making trouble at here

    this was a good experience for me to learn something how to deal with "torrent" one
    service allowed

    like what @Kupol state it above
    that was a great idea for me to provide a service like that

  • @TheLinuxBug said:

    Cheers!

    Look at you. The wettest blanket

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