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...and what's your budget?
$7
100$-120$
This is not gonna happen. Ask @Clouvider he will tell you why...
@Mardaki Your budget should start at $4,000 at-least.
Can't agree completely. Cogent and HE are selling much below this rate lately.
@AlexBarakov True the market is really scraping the bottom of the barrel these days. I'm sure with a decent commit on crap you could get some good rates.
I've actually seen 10Gbps unmetered on a few cheap networks for $900. But I'm very sceptical and somewhat expect a few hundred servers hanging of 2x20G Cogent at most.
I agree, FDC comes to mind. Anyway, I meant going with Cogent/HE directly. At 10G, rates go at 0.15 per mbps, if I recall my last chat with them correctly. Of course, they prob vary depending on region. Adding some $ for the hardware, still less than 2 times lower than the mentioned price :P
Of course, this is completely offtopic, I understand what you meant with your op.
@AlexBarakov Yeah I must admit I don't do anything with Cogent or HE. Pretty much just for quality of network reasons.
It's a shame because HE would be pretty kickass with all their peering if only they had some capacity between PoPs.
If your willing to sign contracts of three years, I can get you 10Gbit connectivity including a server for £1500/month.
Like the RIPE contracts you’re doing ?
So HE.net is the cheapest now. 10Gbit/s for $1500 (£1111.52 by Google). That does not include: Cross Connects, Routing Equipment, Switching equipment, Expertise, Staff, Currency fluctuations, etc, to maintain. Double that for your 20G, £2223.04 that's your raw bandwidth. Now add server, power, marketing, spares, payment fees, non paying Customers, DDoS protection, etc. to that, and oh, btw, profit.
By the time you do that, if you're lucky and someone offers you a good deal you end up with shitty bandwidth and some server for over £2k
Why VPS, why not dedicated server?
cause the OP post is nonsense, as normally the VPS do have the following specs:
1) storage size or type of hdd/ssd
2) memory - RAM
3) number of CPU
4) speed of CPU
5) geo location of node
6) number of IPv4 and IPv6
7) network port speed <== OP is interested in this option only, just nonsense!
8) Uptime SLA
9) Control Panel
10) Service type - managed or unmanaged
Between which PoPs ?
US and NL primarily, but I expect the problem isn't unique. Sub 100mbit pulling backups over HE was not uncommon last year.
Thanks.
We’re not using them here, however, with the limited experience we have, it often looked like one of the ends on top of using cheap HE connectivity was also overselling it, so the link was often actually saturated at the source. I haven’t seen (again, limited experience), congestion issues on their core links under normal operation, hence I was asking.
@Clouvider It's possible but I suspect unlikely. Getting a source route off HE solved it.
For non-business, non mission-critical things, my advice is to talk to seedbox hosters. E.g. seedboxes.cc, seedhost.eu, feralhosting.com, chmuranet.com etc.. They are all in the lots-of-bandwith-for-cheap game. Maybe they can give you a custom plan with root access. But I'd rather look for metered bandwidth. Unmetered at those prices will not perform that well, and will be "fair use" limited anyways. You'd also have lots of noisy neighbours who will constantly congest the hell out of the uplinks.
EDIT: The most expensive VPS line from chmuranet would fit perfectly, and is still in budget. Even has "unmetered" traffic, but of course those 10Gbit/s are shared with a few other users.
For hobby stuff such offers are possible. Just don't expect to use it for your business and make money off it.
@that_guy only ‘a few’ other users ?
I think that’s grossly underestimated.
You can get a 20 & 10gbps servers here : https://10gbps.io/
Th
e price of 300TB is a lot less here then unmetered
Probably best and only choice if you want a server with your bandwidth. $1850/mo for unshared 10gbps and peering with Cogent, Level3 and GTT (varies on each location)
are you a spam bot ?
33 days ago you posted same message on another thread lol
here is it
Lets see.
So HE.net is the cheapest now. 10Gbit/s for $1500 (£1111.52 by Google). That does not include: Cross Connects, Routing Equipment, Switching equipment, Expertise, Staff, Currency fluctuations, etc, to maintain.
£1111.52 / 10 = £111.15 that's your raw bandwidth. Now add server, power, marketing, spares, payment fees, non paying Customers, DDoS protection, etc. to that, and oh, btw, profit.
By the time you do that, if you're lucky and someone offers you a good deal you end up with shitty bandwidth and some server for £150 - ish.
Now you want someone to sponsor £125 of this £150 - not going to happen, sorry.
Edit: I assume you're an individual so add 20% to that costs.
Edit2: And no - we're not going to provide service for that cost - sorry.
@Tomz let me respond in the same style as you did.
Are you a spam bot?
Did you even read it? Is it irrelevant to this thread? ‘Lol’
Im assuming that we are talking about 10Gbps.
First of all, learn the difference from "than" and "then".
Secondly, captain wonder-man, almost 1/3 of the price, IS a lot less.
.......
why all the hostility?
is everything okay?
Proper 10G in the US will at best be around $2,000 /month. Oversold stuff would be cheaper.
Your budget is disgustingly low. Like going to a high class escort and expecting her service you for street walker (with a meth habit) money. Only more insulting....
Prices in this thread are pretty spot on. You can snag a 2x10G box with 10G commit from G-Core in Amsterdam for €1600, afaik bursting past 10G is billed @ 0.5eur/mbps on 95th percentile. AMS upstreams look to be Telia, Core-Backbone, TISparkle and Cogent
Promo code is 10GBPS-AMS
Because 300TB is 1Gbit. 10Gbit are 3.3PB.
You need to be more detailed as HE has plenty raw capacity between US-EU.
The problem is more that the US end-user ISPs are not willing to peer freely even if HE carries the traffic until their doorstep (this is with large EU telcos not better, and horrible in asia) - the datacenter market changed and does still, more and more ISPs see that an IX actually makes sense and the IX's are now more reasonable priced as well (because, if my IX port costs as much as 10G Cogent, i'll buy Cogent. Peering has to be cheap.).
Generally HE has things to wish left and should focus on the core POPs instead of weird expansion attempts with a few anchor customers but not much network gain - Yes, Brazil looks nice on a network backbone map, but realistically is horrible to manage and expensive with rare profit to see as budget carrier.
Or skip them entirely and just buy a Leaseweb, Nforce or OVH server.
FDC is now practically (not on paper, but they need them to exist and have weird commitment contracts) owned by Cogent and singlehomed Cogent.
This did add a nice amount of available locations though, and in reality pure cogent is not worse than their crap back in CHI/DEN so whatever.
This is, by public available numbers, true but some carriers do cut HE in specific locations to balance the backbone or get specific usage (a large Nordic fiber ISP with 80%+ inbound comes to mind, desperately looking to sell 50G+ outbound at near zero cost, but only if you transport yourself or use their colo, because they pay 95/5 like everyone else and paid for this BW never used). Deals like this generate a good amount of my secondary income and consulting work but require at last contacts (market knowledge optional, really, if you have the best deal someone will bite fairly easy, the Germans would say it sells like warm bread).
If you have an exact target demographic, say your videohoster is basically only popular in Russia so your traffic from there is 50%+ (or calculated based on profit high enough to justify specific network tweaks and setup cost) a single MSK-IX port and a few nice emails by a native speaker can render your BW bill from 1$/Mbit HE to 13c/Mbit (10G) or 6c/Mbit (100G).
Same is true for most countries, and a lot of things can be worked out with fairly simple edge caching nodes strategically placed as deep as possible - and surprise surprise, most ISPs are more than willing to let you colo in city A with essentially free local BW if they can avoid a lot of backhaul cost to city B. This is network design/management at side A (technical) and contacts on B, also a lot of my consulting hours going there.
Obviously on OPs scale this makes no sense (else the request would be at least better worded, and reasonable, and not like this, being on LET does not say anything alone) but over a few single servers it already can start to make sense - on major scale (Netflix, Amazon...) this is the only solution unless you have insane amounts of money (Youtube/Google does backhaul a lot on highest quality links across the world to ensure network quality, this is insanely expensive to maintain but justified as multiple Alphabet parts extensively use this network, from drive over YT to compute/cloud).