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VPN and Tor to be blocked in Russia?

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  • bsdguybsdguy Member

    As for europe, some countries disguise it and don't call it in a suggestive way. Fact, however is, that in most europe, and particularly eu, countries "holocaust denial", "anti-semitism", and finding Hitler OK is prohibited, prosecuted, and punished.

    One typical way to make it look different is to call those laws "anti hate speech" or "anti radicalism". But no matter how open or disguised, there is no such things as freedom of speech in most european countries which, after all, paint themselves as lighthouses of democracy.

    As for the us of a, yes legally and theoretically one can say whatever one likes. But being out of a job and having next to no chance to get one or being basically fair game for violent weirdos pretty much boils down to "forbidden", too.
    Looking at the political correctness mind prison, the us of a is even far worse than europe (although we seem to try to come closer).

    But that, gentleman, isn't the real point anyway. The real point is that in a real democracy and free society everyone should be able to say whatever he fucking pleases without any repercussions or punishment, be it formal (law) or informal (society).

    Looking that way, Russia is actually almost a paradise. Just look at creeps like navalny. That guy is a criminal and a traitor - yet he is free to say whatever crap he pleases.
    Compare that, for instance, to germany or france, where anyone daring to speak against the government is quickly stigmatized as a radical nazi.

  • mowsmows Member

    William said: mows said: Many US-carriers like Cogentgo forbid the use of proxies in their terms of use. So there is a phantom discussion about "freedom" or "the free world" again.

    As end-user. Cogent has not even 1% end-users. Cogent does not regulate what you do as BGP/L3 customer with your own network and them as upstream (and cannot, legally, much either).

    Nope. Cogent even don't have 1% end-users but only business customers. Those providers takes their terms of use because the contract with cogent force them to do so.

  • @mows said:
    Nope. Cogent even don't have 1% end-users but only business customers. Those providers takes their terms of use because the contract with cogent force them to do so.

    What? You've essentially repeated what William said.

    @raindog308 We're delving into politics here; is it time to /thread?

  • doghouch said: We're delving into politics here; is it time to /thread?

    This is still a good, indeed civilized discussion, politics or not. :)

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