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SYS servers 2017: E5-1620v2 & E5-1650v2

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  • HuntersPadHuntersPad Member
    edited May 2017

    Im trying to decide if its worth moving from $39 USD to $35 USD
    Currently have the E3-SAT-2-32 and thinking about getting the E5v2-SAT-1-16

    I've had my current one for about 2 years far. I wont miss the 32GB of ram as I barely use 4GB of it.

    And maybe thinking of moving to France from Canada but not sure if that will be a good move or not.

  • jeromezajeromeza Member

    Got validated today. Do the offer pro rata billing if I purchase a server now or would I need to wait for the new month?

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Patron Provider
    edited May 2017

    @jeromeza said:
    Got validated today. Do the offer pro rata billing if I purchase a server now or would I need to wait for the new month?

    If you doing account on IE you can buy server today. On FR are monthly bill.

  • jeromezajeromeza Member

    @Vova1234 said:

    @jeromeza said:
    Got validated today. Do the offer pro rata billing if I purchase a server now or would I need to wait for the new month?

    If you doing account on IE you can buy server today. On FR are monthly bill.

    Thanks - ouch that kind of sucks I'm not keen to pay for a full month, but i'll probably have to as I need to setup before my existing services expire.

    If I use the IE account do I pay in Euro or GBP?

    Thanks.

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Patron Provider

    If I use the IE account do I pay in Euro or GBP?

    EUR

  • jeromezajeromeza Member
    edited May 2017

    @Vova1234 said:

    @jeromeza said:
    Got validated today. Do the offer pro rata billing if I purchase a server now or would I need to wait for the new month?

    If you doing account on IE you can buy server today. On FR are monthly bill.

    Billing is 1 month from when you pay. So if you pay on the 25th you only need to pay again on the 25th of the next month. Therefore no pro rata needed.

    I ordered my server now after confirming that, but I see order time has gone from 120 sec to 10 days (France) :( Hopefully I'll get it sooner.

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Patron Provider

    @jeromeza said:

    @Vova1234 said:

    @jeromeza said:
    Got validated today. Do the offer pro rata billing if I purchase a server now or would I need to wait for the new month?

    If you doing account on IE you can buy server today. On FR are monthly bill.

    Billing is 1 month from when you pay. So if you path on the 25th you only need to pay again on the 25th of the next month. Therefore no pro rate needed.

    I ordered my server now after confirming that, but I see order time has gone from 120 sec to 10 days (France) :( Hopefully I'll get it sooner.

    I do not have that. I can pay at any time of the day for any number of months ahead.

  • jeromezajeromeza Member

    When ordering more IP's one can select country.

    Does this mean you get IP's located within the region you select or is this simply for billing purposes?

    Thanks!

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Patron Provider
    edited May 2017

    @jeromeza said:
    When ordering more IP's one can select country.

    Does this mean you get IP's located within the region you select or is this simply for billing purposes?

    Thanks!

    No. Issued randomly. Currently, IP from the new data center in Virginia.

  • jeromezajeromeza Member
    edited May 2017 
    root@rescue:~# wget x86.ca/bench.sh -O - -o /dev/null|bash
CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz
Number of cores : 8
CPU frequency :  3419.609 MHz
Total amount of ram : 16069 MB
Total amount of swap : 0 MB
System uptime :   1 min,
Download speed from CacheFly: 26.0MB/s
Download speed from OVH, Beauharnois, Canada: 13.5MB/s
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Toronto, Canada: 8.18MB/s
Download speed from ColoCrossing, Chicago, USA: 8.28MB/s
Download speed from Choopa, Piscataway, USA: 19.3MB/s
Download speed from Leaseweb, Manassas, VA, USA: 28.3MB/s
Download speed from Atlanta (10Gbps pipe), USA: 12.8MB/s
Download speed from Volume Drive, Wilkes Barre, USA: 23.5MB/s
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Orlando, USA: 10.7MB/s
Download speed from Incero, Dallas, USA: 13.6MB/s
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, San Francisco, USA: 12.7MB/s
Download speed from QuadraNET, LA, USA: 12.8MB/s
Download speed from OVH, Roubaix, FR: 60.6MB/s
Download speed from Redstation, London, UK: 90.1MB/s
Download speed from Linode, Frankfurt, DE: 17.4MB/s
Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem: 79.0MB/s
Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 8.84MB/s
Download speed from Digital Ocean, Singapore: 5.89MB/s
Download speed from iiNet, Perth, AU: 931KB/s
Disk throughput - 1 time    : 4.5 GB/s
Disk throughput - 2 time    : 4.3 GB/s
Disk throughput - 3 time    : 4.5 GB/s
Average Disk throughput     : 4.43333 MB/s

    root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sda

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     HGST HUS724020ALA640
Serial Number:    PN2134P6JKTAAT
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 22de444a9
Firmware Version: MF6OABY0
User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sat May 27 11:44:02 2017 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

    root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep -i power
9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       18902

    root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     HGST HUS724020ALA640
Serial Number:    PN1134P6KUE20W
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 22df5d4d5
Firmware Version: MF6OABY0
User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sat May 27 11:45:20 2017 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

    root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb | grep -i power
9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       14153

    GRA1 - Rack: G111A25
  • qtwrkqtwrk Member

    @jeromeza said:

    > root@rescue:~# wget x86.ca/bench.sh -O - -o /dev/null|bash
> CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz
> Number of cores : 8
> CPU frequency :  3419.609 MHz
> Total amount of ram : 16069 MB
> Total amount of swap : 0 MB
> System uptime :   1 min,
> Download speed from CacheFly: 26.0MB/s
> Download speed from OVH, Beauharnois, Canada: 13.5MB/s
> Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Toronto, Canada: 8.18MB/s
> Download speed from ColoCrossing, Chicago, USA: 8.28MB/s
> Download speed from Choopa, Piscataway, USA: 19.3MB/s
> Download speed from Leaseweb, Manassas, VA, USA: 28.3MB/s
> Download speed from Atlanta (10Gbps pipe), USA: 12.8MB/s
> Download speed from Volume Drive, Wilkes Barre, USA: 23.5MB/s
> Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Orlando, USA: 10.7MB/s
> Download speed from Incero, Dallas, USA: 13.6MB/s
> Download speed from Atlantic.NET, San Francisco, USA: 12.7MB/s
> Download speed from QuadraNET, LA, USA: 12.8MB/s
> Download speed from OVH, Roubaix, FR: 60.6MB/s
> Download speed from Redstation, London, UK: 90.1MB/s
> Download speed from Linode, Frankfurt, DE: 17.4MB/s
> Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem: 79.0MB/s
> Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 8.84MB/s
> Download speed from Digital Ocean, Singapore: 5.89MB/s
> Download speed from iiNet, Perth, AU: 931KB/s
> Disk throughput - 1 time  : 4.5 GB/s
> Disk throughput - 2 time  : 4.3 GB/s
> Disk throughput - 3 time  : 4.5 GB/s
> Average Disk throughput       : 4.43333 MB/s
> 
    > root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sda
> 
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Device Model:     HGST HUS724020ALA640
> Serial Number:    PN2134P6JKTAAT
> LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 22de444a9
> Firmware Version: MF6OABY0
> User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
> Form Factor:      3.5 inches
> Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
> ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
> SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
> Local Time is:    Sat May 27 11:44:02 2017 CEST
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
> 
    > root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep -i power
> 9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       18902
> 
    > root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb
> 
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Device Model:     HGST HUS724020ALA640
> Serial Number:    PN1134P6KUE20W
> LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 22df5d4d5
> Firmware Version: MF6OABY0
> User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
> Form Factor:      3.5 inches
> Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
> ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
> SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
> Local Time is:    Sat May 27 11:45:20 2017 CEST
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
> 
    > root@rescue:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb | grep -i power
> 9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       14153
> 
    > GRA1 - Rack: G111A25
>

    What disk is that for 4 GB/s ?

  • lurchlurch Member

    I'm thinking about going with E5v2-SAT-1-16 / E5-1620v2 / 4c / 8t /3.7 GHz+ / 16 GB / 2 x 2 TB SATA3 / Soft — €29.99 / 173sys10 is the price plus vat for eu customers? Also I see different dc's have been mentioned does one have a better network than the other? Which one should I go with?

  • jeromezajeromeza Member

    @lurch said:
    I'm thinking about going with E5v2-SAT-1-16 / E5-1620v2 / 4c / 8t /3.7 GHz+ / 16 GB / 2 x 2 TB SATA3 / Soft — €29.99 / 173sys10 is the price plus vat for eu customers? Also I see different dc's have been mentioned does one have a better network than the other? Which one should I go with?

    a) 29.99 + VAT for EU customers. You can only get VAT removed if you reside outside of the EU (and can prove this with ID + proof of residence).
    b) You don't get a choice its random.

  • sithrebel15sithrebel15 Member

    Any news on the SSD versions?

  • FredQcFredQc Member

    @sithrebel15 said:
    Any news on the SSD versions?

    Didn't thought they where going with ssds on these.

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited May 2017

    E5v2-SAT-1-16 / E5-1620v2 / 4c / 8t /3.7 GHz+ / 16 GB / 2 x 2 TB SATA3 / Soft — €29.99 / 173sys10

    Got mine for $34 USD, fast delivery, no complaints at all

    You can get yours here
    https://us.soyoustart.com/cgi-bin/newOrder/order.cgi?hard=173casys10

  • alfablacalfablac Member

    Not so good.
    Had a E3 on BHS2 and got one of these E5v2.
    Network perf. is way better on the E3. Got a G/250M to NL servers while I only hit half G/250M speeds on the E5v2. Opened a ticket. While the CPU is slighty better, network is way worse. Even to RBX OVH servers.
    Bottom note: My network was also limited twice to 10Mbps while I was moving the files from E3 to E5v2.
    Two things. Or these servers are old or the hubs are saturated.
    5 euro cheapier though.

  • FredQcFredQc Member

    alfablac said: Not so good.

    Which DC is it ? I have no apparent speed problem in BHS...

    ------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to proof.ovh.ca, TCP port 5001
TCP window size:  374 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  5] local snipped port 51052 connected with 192.99.19.165 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   921 MBytes   772 Mbits/sec
[  4] local 158.69.249.89 port 5001 connected with 192.99.19.165 port 38644
[  4]  0.0-10.0 sec  1.02 GBytes   872 Mbits/sec
  • teamaccteamacc Member

    @FredQc said:

    alfablac said: Not so good.

    Which DC is it ? I have no apparent speed problem in BHS...

    ------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to proof.ovh.ca, TCP port 5001
TCP window size:  374 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  5] local snipped port 51052 connected with 192.99.19.165 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   921 MBytes   772 Mbits/sec
[  4] local 158.69.249.89 port 5001 connected with 192.99.19.165 port 38644
[  4]  0.0-10.0 sec  1.02 GBytes   872 Mbits/sec

    That's a speedtest from BHS to BHS, so no outside testing. Try speedtesting to iperf.ovh.net, which is in france.

  • varunchopravarunchopra Member

    Can anyone post a bench to a similar Hetzner auction server for comparison?

  • alfablacalfablac Member

    @FredQc said:

    alfablac said: Not so good.

    Which DC is it ? I have no apparent speed problem in BHS...

    ------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to proof.ovh.ca, TCP port 5001
TCP window size:  374 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  5] local snipped port 51052 connected with 192.99.19.165 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   921 MBytes   772 Mbits/sec
[  4] local 158.69.249.89 port 5001 connected with 192.99.19.165 port 38644
[  4]  0.0-10.0 sec  1.02 GBytes   872 Mbits/sec

    BHS6
    Judging by the IP we might be even close.
    But BHS-BHS it has been great. Testing on close servers like Telus Montreal, perfomance varies from 500-700M

  • FredQcFredQc Member

    teamacc said: Try speedtesting to iperf.ovh.net, which is in france.

    I'm getting a ping timeout with this one

    alfablac said: BHS6 Judging by the IP we might be even close. But BHS-BHS it has been great. Testing on close servers like Telus Montreal, perfomance varies from 500-700M

    Yes, BHS6. Well, all I can say is that the speed is fantastic for a server advertised at 250Mbps. Sure the speed to France will be slower, but it's not that bad. Here's a quick bench:

    CPU model :  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v2 @ 3.50GHz
Number of cores : 12
CPU frequency :  3659.149 MHz
Total amount of ram : 32138 MB
Total amount of swap : 32765 MB
System uptime :   16 days, 7:41,       
Download speed from CacheFly: 103MB/s 
Download speed from OVH, Beauharnois, Canada: 105MB/s 
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Toronto, Canada: 79.9MB/s 
Download speed from ColoCrossing, Chicago, USA: 35.1MB/s 
Download speed from Choopa, Piscataway, USA: 91.2MB/s 
Download speed from Dacentec, Lenoir, USA: 38.8MB/s 
Download speed from Atlanta (10Gbps pipe), USA: 62.0MB/s 
Download speed from Volume Drive, Wilkes Barre, USA: 92.6MB/s 
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Orlando, USA: 17.0MB/s 
Download speed from Incero, Dallas, USA: 49.9MB/s 
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, San Francisco, USA: 32.9MB/s 
Download speed from QuadraNET, LA, USA: 30.3MB/s 
Download speed from OVH, Roubaix, FR: 13.4MB/s 
Download speed from Redstation, London, UK: 22.2MB/s 
Download speed from Linode, Frankfurt, DE: 14.4MB/s 
Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem: 25.9MB/s 
Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 12.2MB/s
  • alfablacalfablac Member

    Yeah.. I would not complain, but I have a SYS-E3 (192.99.*) and it is better for outside connections. I got speedtest-cli. Will try to test both in a while.

  • alfablacalfablac Member
    edited June 2017 
    SoftLayer London
192.99 (E3-BHS2) : 151.93/51.01
158.69 (E5v2-BHS6):  59.21/2.28
SoftLayer Washington
Close to 15/15 on both
nForce Amsterdam
192.99 (E3-BHS2) : 184.85/54.30
158.69 (E5v2-BHS6):  49.49/53.86
  • sinsin Member

    FredQc said: all I can say is that the speed is fantastic for a server advertised at 250Mbps

    Your upload speed is limited to 250Mbps, download isn't though.

  • alfablacalfablac Member

    Better test on BHS6. Very low speeds, if you ask me.

    CPU model :        Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz
Number of cores : 8
CPU frequency :  3701.000 MHz
Total amount of ram : 16349 MB
Total amount of swap : 2432 MB
System uptime :   2 min,
Download speed from CacheFly: 99,3MB/s
Download speed from OVH, Beauharnois, Canada: 102MB/s
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Toronto, Canada: 53,3MB/s
Download speed from ColoCrossing, Chicago, USA: 25,0MB/s
Download speed from Choopa, Piscataway, USA: 68,4MB/s
Download speed from Dacentec, Lenoir, USA: 10,5MB/s
Download speed from Atlanta (10Gbps pipe), USA: 1,12MB/s
Download speed from Volume Drive, Wilkes Barre, USA: 77,1MB/s
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, Orlando, USA: 7,88MB/s
Download speed from Incero, Dallas, USA: 35,8MB/s
Download speed from Atlantic.NET, San Francisco, USA: 27,5MB/s
Download speed from QuadraNET, LA, USA: 27,2MB/s
Download speed from OVH, Roubaix, FR: 11,0MB/s
Download speed from Redstation, London, UK: 14,6MB/s
Download speed from Linode, Frankfurt, DE: 14,3MB/s
Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem: 26,1MB/s
Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 12,4MB/s
  • FredQcFredQc Member

    sin said: Your upload speed is limited to 250Mbps, download isn't though.

    I'm getting over 250Mbps on uploads

    alfablac said: Better test on BHS6. Very low speeds, if you ask me.

    Some places are slower than others which is normal. Also, would you also paste your speedtest-cli results here ?

  • alfablacalfablac Member
    edited June 2017

    @FredQc said:

    sin said: Your upload speed is limited to 250Mbps, download isn't though.

    I'm getting over 250Mbps on uploads

    alfablac said: Better test on BHS6. Very low speeds, if you ask me.

    Some places are slower than others which is normal. Also, would you also paste your speedtest-cli results here ?

    Is there any speedtest-cli scripts out there that I can do?

  • HadrielHadriel Member

    @alfablac said:
    Not so good.
    Had a E3 on BHS2 and got one of these E5v2.
    Network perf. is way better on the E3. Got a G/250M to NL servers while I only hit half G/250M speeds on the E5v2. Opened a ticket. While the CPU is slighty better, network is way worse. Even to RBX OVH servers.
    Bottom note: My network was also limited twice to 10Mbps while I was moving the files from E3 to E5v2.
    Two things. Or these servers are old or the hubs are saturated.
    5 euro cheapier though.

    BHS2 has been terrible for speed for these E5s. I am not renewing the four that I had there as all were provisioned in BHS2. I probably should try and order again to see if I get a different DC.

  • JunklessJunkless Member

    Here is one from BHS6. not bad ? :

    Speedtest (IPv4 only)
---------------------
Your public IPv4 is xxx.xx.xx.xxx

Location                Provider        Speed
CDN                     Cachefly        106MB/s

Atlanta, GA, US         Coloat          27.9MB/s
Dallas, TX, US          Softlayer       39.7MB/s
Seattle, WA, US         Softlayer       21.8MB/s
San Jose, CA, US        Softlayer       24.3MB/s
Washington, DC, US      Softlayer       38.4MB/s

Tokyo, Japan            Linode          13.3MB/s
Singapore               Softlayer       6.35MB/s

Rotterdam, Netherlands  id3.net         10.6MB/s
Haarlem, Netherlands    Leaseweb        91.1MB/s


Disk Speed
----------
I/O (1st run)   : 144 MB/s
I/O (2nd run)   : 136 MB/s
I/O (3rd run)   : 141 MB/s
Average I/O     : 140.333 MB/s
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