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Do you allow TOR bridge nodes?

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  • seriesnseriesn Member

    Dominic, what is the purpose of this thread if you are going to argue and do what you wanted to do? Wouldn't it be better to consult your DC and see what they allows instead of trying to get the spotlight?

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @seriesn said: Wouldn't it be better to consult your DC and see what they allows instead of trying to get the spotlight?

    I told him exactly that and he dodged the question, saying their TOS doesn't mention TOR.

  • seriesnseriesn Member

    @Infinity said: TOS doesn't mention TOR.

    You live and learn.

  • Here's a spin:

    If I see a provider WHO ALLOWS TOR, INCLUDING EXIT NODES, ALLOWS CAMFROG and ALLOWS EMAIL MARKETING, I generally know this is a kiddie host/summer host/dead pooler, then generally go look elsewhere for a more restrictive AUP/TOPS that turns away potentially bad people

    CamFrog = about as big of a DDoS target than MC servers

  • @DamienSB said: Because TOR is only used for things that are not legal

    Proove that.

    @DamienSB said: Why do you need to hide your actions if you aren't breaking a law?

    Do you use Facebook with SSL enabled? Or Google? Or Paypal?

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @doughmanes said: WHO ALLOWS TOR

    Do you know what you're talking about? There are many non-kiddy hosts who allow Tor, maybe not all types of nodes.

  • EasedEased Member, Host Rep

    For sure do not allow TOR exit nodes. Why would you want to allow this kind of traffic anyway?

  • PacketVMPacketVM Member, Host Rep

    As it stands, I disallow exit nodes only at the moment. I allow other TOR-related servers at the moment (low risk ones) and review all orders related to TOR.

  • @imperio: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs

    Those entries are way too out-of-date to be useful. The VPS market is so fluid that any static list is obsolete nearly instantly.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited May 2013

    We allow any type except exit and even portals for browsing the .onion sites without going through a node.
    That is not the case for the Biz plans, but this is because the 1 gbps port must be much more free to allow for much higher spikes in usage as the Biz plans are the premium offer for important sites/apps.
    They do use a lot of bandwidth and even cpu (portals) but the customer pays for it and we do not block anyone from using what they pay for like many others around.
    Now about the s**t about privacy needed only by criminals, Damien probably doesnt care if his local church is following his wife to see if she is dressing "decently" or the hotel installs cameras to see if he doesnt fuck with strangers and then use that as a blackmail later.
    We will see soon (I already did in my early life) how it is when privacy is gone and the cops only have to sift through some tapes to see that:
    "A-haaa, this guy was at a table near a terrorism suspect"
    "A-haaa, he also drove by him 2 hours later on a bike"
    "A-haaa, he is reading librul papers"
    "A-haaa, he doesnt go to church on Sunday, he probably is a muslim"
    "A-haaa, at a search at the airport he had some pictures of his 1 yo daughter while taking a bath without proper clothing"
    If he can prove he is not a terrorist after all this "evidence" we can surely bust him for child porn unless he turns over 10 other ring members.
    And this is before the judges have already been framed with something and are fully "cooperating". After that happens, no evidence will be needed, not even such things as above, the judges will simply sign the papers for execution, if they dont, other judges will sign for their execution.
    And after that there wont be any paper needed, the police will simply shoot the suspects just to make sure they dont have time to defend themselves.

    2 cops were walking the streets before the curfew. One takes the gun and shoots a random guy.
    Hey, asks the other, why did you shoot him, there are still 15 minutes till the curfew ?
    I know where he lives, there is no way he could make it home in 15 minutes.

  • tl;dr
    (too long;didn't read)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited May 2013

    @doughmanes said: (too long;didn't read)

    I know, this is the argument of the people without arguments, making a case needs some text, couldnt make a movie to show you, sorry, but you can watch 1984 and you will get the general idea. Or you can go back to fox and find there the arguments against privacy... err, sorry, terrorism and child porn.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited May 2013

    @doughmanes said: Note: THE ACTIONS OF ONE CUSTOMER CAUSED THIS RAID.

    Yea, he hosted a 20million host botnet and allegedly spammed billions of mails per day, i don't really see how this is compareable to Tor, even in exit configuration...

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    @DamienSB said: Because TOR is only used for things that are not legal, where as web servers are widely used for legal reasons.

    Why do you need to hide your actions if you aren't breaking a law?

    You, sir, are a complete and undisputable idiot.

  • nutjobnutjob Member

    @DamienSB said: Because TOR is only used for things that are not legal, where as web servers are widely used for legal reasons.

    Why do you need to hide your actions if you aren't breaking a law?

    Wow.

    @joepie91 said: You, sir, are a complete and undisputable idiot.

    Nailed it.

  • lazytlazyt Member

    I must say this site is as excellent as WHT for making provider blacklists. I think I need to toss up a web site on one of the unused boxes.

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member

    @DamienSB said: Because TOR is only used for things that are not legal, where as web servers are widely used for legal reasons.

    Why do you need to hide your actions if you aren't breaking a law?

    Only eh? Also some laws in some countries seem like "god given rights" in others. lol.

    But no, I don't think most hosts would want to deal with an exit node, simply because when shit does hit the fan, it's ultimately the provider of the exit node that has to deal with it.

    Also your argument is kind of silly, unless you don't mind people knowing you collect lolicon (hey... it's "legal"...).

  • SkylarMSkylarM Member

    As long as it's not an exit node it's really not that big of a deal. It's a large sum of traffic, but hey if you offer unmetered you better be able to hold up to your end of the deal. I've got a customer that has a relay and it's not a big deal.

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