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what is the maximum tb you need for your backup ?

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  • pbgben said: I think a better question is how do people use their backup servers, what protocol do they use to transfer data.

    Really I'm pretty flexible about protocols. scp/rsync/sftp are all ok, vps is nicer if it doesn't cost too much more, s3 is a less convenient but is fine too, especially for storage.

    To distinguish (at least by my standards):

    storage = a place where you put inactive data with the intention of retrieving it later, with reasonable assurance that it will still be there, though maybe not with fast retrieval (like you might put physical stuff in a storage facility that's closed on holidays). That means it should at least have RAID, but it's ok if the whole thing is temporarily offline in the case that a rebuild is needed.

    backup = a place where you put an emergency copy of active data but (like a fire extinguisher) you hope to never retrieve it. No-RAID is ok if you can live with the possibility of losing data in the less likely event that both copies fail simultaneously. But it may have to be online all the time, i.e. quick retrieval available to minimize how long your production service is disrupted.

    At the moment I'm mostly interested in storage rather than backup as I have 2x 3TB disks on my server, set as raid-1, but they're pretty full so I spill over to other space. I might reconfigure it to 6TB with no raid, in which case I'd want to maintain a backup copy somewhere. I'm mostly archiving stuff so don't need the real-time update of raid. A nightly push of changed data to backup is enough.

  • IThinkUFailedIThinkUFailed Member
    edited December 2016

    @Amitz said:

    @tr1cky said:
    Right now I'm at 10tb of personal backups.

    Alright, but who really needs all that warez and porn? ;-)

    @Nekki probably does. I heard he watches porn that has people signing on screen. Strange fetish.

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    @IThinkUFailed said:

    @Amitz said:

    @tr1cky said:
    Right now I'm at 10tb of personal backups.

    Alright, but who really needs all that warez and porn? ;-)

    @Nekki probably does. I heard he watches porn that has people signing on screen. Strange fetish.

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  • @lion said:
    I smell storage boxes in Romania :)

    No, that's just the tuica.

  • around 5TB . Stored at hubiC

  • Packages starting with ~512GB would be nice, since many people would not necessarily start out by using several TBs.

  • dgprasetya said:

    around 5TB . Stored at hubiC

    Getting decent transfer speeds from there?

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    Being able to scale upwards, easily.

  • Hubic has been capped at 10Mbps upload since I first heard about it quite a few years ago. I had tried it back then to confirm, and it definitely was. This was back when Carbonite was the most prevalent auto-backup subscription service......and they also throttled their speeds back then as well. Here in the US, I'd recommend both ACD and GSuite for work unlimited if you can spare the $180/year, which is significantly less than just ONE HGST or WD Black 7200rpm SATA3 HDDs. Yes, I use both, and have been for well over a year. Crashplan I use to backup my seedbox. I use Arq 5 on my Windows and MacOS machines to backup to ACD & Google Drive. I'm still looking forward to Plex Cloud (Link: https://www.plex.tv/cloud/).....they emailed us plex pass members the other day to say ACD won't be supported, but Google Drive still will be. Feel free to PM me about anything that I might not hace explained well enough. I'm finding a LOT of trolls on here who are merely just repeating what others have said elsewhere, and who aren't speaking about personal experience. I never ever do that. If you have slow upload speeds from your US ISP, you have a lot more options as the hubic throttling won't affect you. The DataHoarders reddit and seedboxes reddit are both very good resources for more info, like solid, verified reviews, offers, and promos.

  • Just like majority, I use 1-2 TB

  • 1 Tb in different continent maybe good.

  • so , for what i see with 2 tb is ok for most of you. Thanks all for the answer

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  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    What matters is not "2TB" or "10TB" or "100TB", but the price per TB you'll be able to offer, and how it compares with KS2E and Hubic.

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  • rm_ said: What matters is not "2TB" or "10TB" or "100TB", but the price per TB you'll be able to offer, and how it compares with KS2E and Hubic.

    For me is matter , because depend of the top product we will make raid 5 or raid 10

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited December 2016

    1 TB is more than I would ever need. Anything more is data hoarding that you should just delete and re-download again if needed in somewhere. If you are running a business or producing videos/music, then thats a whole different thing as those things take a lot of space.

  • 2TB. But it would be nice to scale up and down if needed.

  • For personal use 500GB is enough, i only use cloud storage when i think those data is important.

  • dragon2611dragon2611 Member
    edited December 2016

    1-3TB

                                   Original size               Compressed size      Deduplicated size
         This archive:              126.20 GB            126.05 GB              7.24 GB
         All archives:                2.61 TB              2.61 TB            350.93 GB
    

    Borg works quite nicely for VM backups so far ;-)

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  • Probably no less than 5TB. I've got some pretty rare tentacles, wouldn't like them to disappear.

  • Nekki said: I've got some pretty rare tentacles

    wanna share?

  • I classify my storage as 'collections' with various acceptable levels of redundancy.

    For linux ISO hoarding , the single Hitachi disk on Kimsufi is enough. (have 4TB now)

    They can be reproduced with private trackers in a few weeks.

    Extremely personal media : triple replicated with minimum two on-disk formats and never writted to disk in plain-text.

    Things that need to be synced live : iwsea(seafile) from Prometeus serves me well.

    I'd say the next compelling storage platform upgrade would be ZFS-based storage with access to snapshots from the client's side(in the form of rollbacks.)

    @Ultravps You folks have some experience with ZFS storage , I take it.

    Hetzner storage boxes also have something similar by way of tech.

  • 1-2tb is mostly enough with possibility to add more (on the fly?) would be perfect

  • fanfan Veteran

    I can see something amazing is coming. Personally, I use < 1TB for backup, KVM preferred.

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  • @fan said:
    I can see something amazing is coming. Personally, I use < 1TB for backup, KVM preferred.

    I agree KVM is mandatory, not interested in ovz and old kernels anymore... for raid I don't care if raid 5/6/10 or zfs whatever, as long as the whole setup comes with a somewhat reliable protection against data loss from harddisk failure :-)

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  • starbetrayerstarbetrayer Member
    edited December 2016

    @cociu said:

    Falzo said: 2x2TB looking to switch one to 4TB shortly... underlying raid much preferred

    wait 1-2 weeks and please pm i will offer you something sexy

    @cociu, i will be interested as well (existing customer)

  • 2TB will suffice for my needs :)

    Please do small plan too, eg. 512GB.

  • @willie said:

    dgprasetya said:

    around 5TB . Stored at hubiC

    Getting decent transfer speeds from there?

    so far so good

  • If the offer will be the openvz bs, then 0 byte.
    For Xen, KVM, esxi etc. between 3-9 tb.

  • Openvz storage has worked fine for me at multiple hosts, so I don't have any problem with it. I don't really understand the objections to it.

  • @willie said:
    Openvz storage has worked fine for me at multiple hosts, so I don't have any problem with it. I don't really understand the objections to it.

    Maybe the ability to make encrypted partition on a KVM or such virtualization.

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