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  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Host Rep

    http://www.hostkey.ru accept paypal.

  • For Moldova:

    http://getkvm.com/kvm-metered.html

    Do note: this is no longer run by the guy who started it here on LET, it is now owned by Bradler & Krantz GmbH & Co KG (providerservice.com). The lowest cost version is now 6.50 GBP (which I think is 11 dollars) but I bought one way back in the day (read: was cheaper) and they run quite a steady setup still. So may not be in the budget now of the low end, but still a good service if you are looking for something reliable in Moldova.

    Cheers!

  • ben78ben78 Member

    MuZo said: Nice, they have some LEB plans

    OpenVZ - 1 core @ 600Mhz - 256MB RAM - 10GB Disk - unmetered 10mpbs - ~2€/month http://myvps.ru/#MSK-RU-OVZ

    KVM - 1 core @ 3400Mhz - 256MB RAM - 2GB Disk - unmetered 100mpbs - ~2.7€/month http://myvps.ru/#MSK-RU-KVM

    Wow, that's pretty cheap for unmetered traffic. I wonder how good their network is...

  • MuZoMuZo Member

    rm_ said: Makes me distrust them even for their Russia services and wonder whom they're reselling those from, and how can I order directly for cheaper and not via them.

    I did a bit of research and I think they're reselling http://firstvds.ru.

    The smallest OpenVZ plan is sold there for 60RUB / ~1.27$.

    All OpenVZ/KVM plans, except the KVM-256, are the same as here. They probabilly have a reseller discount as big KVM vpses are cheaper by them.

    The KVM-256 might be hosted on their own hardware as their AS only has a /24 and only peers with RTCOMM which correspond with the DC written on their site.

  • @Profforg said:
    this is the hosting from hackers, they'll run bruteforce for your e-mail just after you register and sure stole all other details you give to them.



    LOL!

    Thanked by 2Mark_R kerouac
  • MuZo said: Nice, they have some LEB plans

    Yes, they are.

    MarshalChe said: @Profforg, reg.ru really is a quality hosting? )

    They have very well uptime 99.9%+, they'll not disappear (because they're very big). Performance are not top notch, but it's not bad.

    rm_ said: They are reselling DO in Singapore and Linode in Tokyo (likely some other locations are resold too), and aren't being upfront about what they're doing, to me that's borderline scam (and I generally dislike and see no legitimate reason for most resellers to exist). Makes me distrust them even for their Russia services and wonder whom they're reselling those from, and how can I order directly for cheaper and not via them.

    About myvps.ru - i recommend to use only their Moscow location. Other locations may be reselling, however their Moscow services are on their Co-located nodes (as i know).

    MuZo said: All OpenVZ/KVM plans, except the KVM-256, are the same as here. They probabilly have a reseller discount as big KVM vpses are cheaper by them.

    It's not correct to do such compare. You will find many providers with similar offers, and none of them are resellers. BTW, i personally used only their KVM plans, so it may be true, but what's the problem with resell (in case if the services are the same and it's even cheaper)?

    switsys said: @Profforg said: this is the hosting from hackers, they'll run bruteforce for your e-mail just after you register and sure stole all other details you give to them.

    LOL!

    You have a chance to test yourself. Register with e-mail on some unsecured, but popular, mail hosting (without security features like block of account in case of 'Login from uncommon place'; Russian example: http://mail.ru ) with very simple password for e-mail log-in like 1234 or 000000.

  • hello everyone, thanks for all your inputs.

    so far, hosteasy.eu and getkvm.com seems like good choices. as most russian ones apparently have no paypal; or not trustworthy enough.

    @TheLinuxBug
    is Bradler & Krantz GmbH & Co. KG (providerservice) which apparently owns GETKVM, trustworthy? also does anyone have a test ip for Getkvm?

    @Profforg thanks for the detailed reply. It's a strange practice with Ukrnames, robbing clients. I like how you say they are crooks but still list them under recommendations :D there are ups and downs to every service :) I was considering myvps.ru but @rm_ and @MuZo have put me off with their invastigative journalism :)

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2014

    kerouac said: hosteasy.eu and getkvm.com

    GetKVM is out of stock of MD VPSes https://getkvm.co.uk/portal/cart.php?gid=15
    Aside from that they're located at HostEasy [anyway] as per info in http://lowendbox.com/blog/getkvm-4-56month-1024mb-kvm-vps-in-germany-moldova-new-jersey/
    And the former owner mentions in comments the bandwidth there used to be unmetered at some point.

    kerouac said: most russian ones apparently have no paypal;

    For the record, VStoike.ru which I recommended earlier does have Paypal.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2014

    Profforg said: http://myvps.ru/ Rock-Solid in Moscow; rather cheap (only in Moscow); paypal available

    Something else to note: Myvps.ru turns out to be from the same company as Netbreeze.ru; and from what I hear the latter one has a below-average reputation for quality. Also tried their speedtest file http://kvm.netbreeze.ru/speed.test, getting absolutely craptastic speeds even within Russia (less than 10 Mbit), not to mention to abroad.

  • @rm_ thx for the replies. isn't vstoike new though? should it be trusted?

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2014

    kerouac said: isn't vstoike new though? should it be trusted?

    No idea about that, but I'm getting a good impression from them. Also the same company owns a home broadband ISP, so perhaps isn't likely to disappear overnight.

  • MuZoMuZo Member

    Bought the cheapest plan from firstvds, works fine except the network.

    Phone verification was required

    -------------Speed test--------------------
    
    Testing EU locations
    Speedtest from Tallinn, Estonia on a shared 1 Gbps port
            Download Speed: 1.10 MB/sec
            Upload speed: .76 MB/sec
    Speedtest from Milan, Italy [ generously donated by http://www.prometeus.net ] on a shared 1 Gbps port
            Download Speed: .01 MB/sec
            Upload speed: 0 MB/sec
    Speedtest from Frankfurt am Main, Germany [ generously donated by http://www.prometeus.net ] on a shared 1 Gbps port
            Download Speed: .01 MB/sec
            Upload speed: 0 MB/sec
    Speedtest from Bucharest, Romania [ generously donated by http://www.prometeus.net ] on a semi-dedicated 1 Gbps port
            Download Speed: .25 MB/sec
            Upload speed: .21 MB/sec
    Speedtest from Amsterdam, Netherlands on a shared 100 Mbps port
            Download Speed: .43 MB/sec
            Upload speed: .32 MB/sec
    ---------------CPU test--------------------
    CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5645 @ 2.40GHz
    Time taken to generate PI to 5000 decimal places with a single thread: 0m28.794s
    ----------------IO test-------------------
    Writing 1000MB file to disk
    (1.1 GB) copied, 2.67999 s, 401 MB/s
    
  • MuZoMuZo Member

    Sorry for thread derailing

    @Profforg said: It's not correct to do such compare. You will find many providers with similar offers, and none of them are resellers. BTW, i personally used only their KVM plans, so it may be true, but what's the problem with resell (in case if the services are the same and it's even cheaper)?

    Well offering exactly same plans and being in the same datacenter (firstvds is in webdc too) with similar prices makes me think of a reseller. Firstvds also has a "public" reseller program which offers discounts to them: http://firstvds.ru/partner/reseller

    There are pros and cons going with a reseller, the main pro I can think of are facilities, for example people search for OVH resellers because they don't want to send them their personal documents or would like to pay with a payment method they don't accept.
    The main con is usually the higher price and the delay of communication between the providers. For example if you're with a reseller and your vps goes down but they don't have control over the node, they will have to wait/contact their own provider and leave you "on hold".

    If myvps is a reseller of firstvds one advantage would be that they accept paypal and maybe don't do a phone verification.
    If somone has a openvz vps from myvps and wants to check, I've got a vps from firstvds and we could see if there are differences.
    @Profforg do you have a specific kvm plan with them?

    @rm_ said: Something else to note: Myvps.ru turns out to be from the same company as Netbreeze.ru; and from what I hear the latter one has a below-average reputation for quality. Also tried their speedtest file http://kvm.netbreeze.ru/speed.test, getting absolutely craptastic speeds even within Russia (less than 10 Mbit), not to mention to abroad.

    Firstvds network is similar too (little benchmark above), it doesn't prove that they're resellers but it adds to previous points. But yes, it might be unrelated and maybe it's just webdc with a very bad network.

    I don't speak any Russian so it's not easy for me to "investigate" and I might be totally wrong about what I'm saying.
    From what I've found http://myvps.ru = http://myhosting.ru = http://www.dns-hosting.ru = http://www.netbreeze.net = http://www.i7.ru

    Back to OP request

    Give a check to http://vdsinside.com located in Ukraine which offers a cheap 3$/month plan and accepts paypal.
    About Moldova hosteasy is probably the cheapest and network wise better choice. Another provider is http://www.secured.md which is more expensive and it's a quite common host for warez-linking websites.

    I would start trying those cheap offers and see how they perform.

  • MuZo said: I don't speak any Russian so it's not easy for me to "investigate" and I might be totally wrong about what I'm saying. From what I've found http://myvps.ru = http://myhosting.ru = http://www.dns-hosting.ru = http://www.netbreeze.net = http://www.i7.ru

    That's correct, all of those websites have the same IP address and office address.

    If someone needs help translating something in Russian I can help you out, just PM me.

    Thanked by 1MuZo
  • Vstoike.ru seems be a division of Rnet, Saint-Petersburg home ISP. Domain was registered in 2011 but there no any references in search engines, no topics on forums... Strange. But maybe they simple don't need it all - topics, advertisment, i don't know )

    42ms from Hetzner and 26ms from Moscow.

  • MuZo said: I don't speak any Russian so it's not easy for me to "investigate" and I might be totally wrong about what I'm saying. From what I've found http://myvps.ru = http://myhosting.ru = http://www.dns-hosting.ru = http://www.netbreeze.net = http://www.i7.ru

    That's true and you can find same information on their websites. They never hiding this.

    rm_ said: Also tried their speedtest file http://kvm.netbreeze.ru/speed.test, getting absolutely craptastic speeds even within Russia (less than 10 Mbit), not to mention to abroad.

    10-20 mbit/s is the speed, which you should expect from any low-end Russian VPS provider with unlimited bandwidth.

    MuZo said: Bought the cheapest plan from firstvds, works fine except the network.

    You should not consider firstvds as a hoster. They were acquired recently and their service will only become worser :)

    MuZo said: Give a check to http://vdsinside.com located in Ukraine which offers a cheap 3$/month plan and accepts paypal.

    Ignoring of political situation may lead you to loss of data and money. There are thousands of people who stops to work or don't work correctly because of situation in a country; i personally see this, because this year i have 50% more orders from former clients and when i ask "why do they come to me" i receive an answer "Ukranian guy said he will not work anymore and disappeared with my money" . If you are so crazy to order from small Ukraine hosters, then try to have fresh backup of your data, 'reserve' hoster to move and have only month-to-month contracts.

    MarshalChe said: Vstoike.ru seems be a division of Rnet, Saint-Petersburg home ISP. Domain was registered in 2011 but there no any references in search engines, no topics on forums... Strange. But maybe they simple don't need it all - topics, advertisment, i don't know )

    42ms from Hetzner and 26ms from Moscow.

    The problem with vstroike.ru is town. If OP's clients will be from Europe, then it can be a right choice, because Saint-Petersburg have faster connections to Europe. But if OP want hoster in Saint-Petersburg, i guess http://docker.ru/vps/ can be a better solution, since it's clustered hosting from experiensed guys, but pricey though. They also seems to have some good discounts now :) BTW Saint-Petersburg providers is having very hard connections to Moscow, it can be 50+ ms sometimes, but 20-30 ms to central Europe at same time.

    If OP expect clients from Moscow or eastern Russia - he should go with Moscow's hosters.

    Thanked by 1rm_
  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2014

    This doesn't look too bad, Xen HVM 512MB RAM with 2 IPv4 for about $6.4/month (with the "happyvps51" discount). 100 Mbit unmetered, although only 10 Mbit b/w is guaranteed. And unlike with Netbreeze, I am maxing out my 50 Mbit home Internet connection when downloading their test file ( http://docker.ru/filetest/100mb.bin ).

  • I know docker.ru, it is good and old company.

    42ms from Hetzner, 13ms from Moscow.

  • deployvmdeployvm Member, Host Rep
    edited June 2014

    I am very sure that i7.ru (netbreeze.net) uses collocation services from Интернет технологии. (Netplace.ru). I have used Netplace's dedicated servers and I can only say positive things about it. Network was excellent and full speed was offered. I am currently using their VDS services and receive close to 100mbps speed. Was also supplied with Intel E5-2630 CPUs.

    It seems very true that NetBreeze are overloading their agreed connection and therefore results in poor speed from testing.

    The datacentre used is RTKomm (STACK DC), and located within Moscow. RTKomm is currently owned by Rostelecom and is one of the major ISPs in Russia. Excellent speeds should be experienced from a variety of locations.

    If you need St. Petersburg ISP, take a look at selectel.ru. Ping from Moscow via TeliaSonera is roughly 12ms. (Tested from Rostelecom)

    Traceroute (removed gateway)

    1. 81.177.. 0.0% 22 5.7 16.6 0.6 173.9 44.2

    2. msk-bgw1-xe-1-2-0-0.rt-comm.ru 0.0% 22 1.7 4.2 1.3 37.9 7.8
    3. rostelecom.c.rt-comm.ru 0.0% 22 1.5 7.6 1.3 103.6 21.8
    4. xe-2-0-1.frkt-ar3.intl.ip.rostel 0.0% 21 54.1 55.5 48.6 78.7 6.1
    xe-2-3-0.frkt-ar3.intl.ip.rostelecom.ru
    188.254.78.209
    95.167.95.19
    188.254.78.151
    5. ae0.franco71.fra.seabone.net 0.0% 21 48.9 50.3 47.0 55.7 3.2
    6. xe-3-2-0.milano51.mil.seabone.ne 9.5% 21 67.9 70.6 65.9 84.6 5.0
    7. cdlan.milano51.mil.seabone.net 0.0% 21 76.6 75.9 71.8 80.0 2.7
    8. gw-umusic-v.umusic.cdlan.net 0.0% 21 238.0 85.2 74.0 238.0 35.1
    9. pm07-70.prometeus.net 4.8% 21 74.1 84.4 72.8 248.7 38.8

    Traceroute to Netbreeze KVM nodes:

    traceroute to kvm.netbreeze.net (81.177.22.185), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 81.177.. (81.177.3.1) 0.729 ms 0.687 ms 0.546 ms
    2 81.177.22.185 (81.177.22.185) 1.079 ms 0.893 ms 7.919 ms

    • Obviously on the same network/VLAN.

    Docker.ru has plenty of bandwidth capacity. Good network too.

    [root@localhost ~]# wget -O /dev/null http://docker.ru/filetest/100mb.bin
    --2014-06-20 16:58:45-- http://docker.ru/filetest/100mb.bin
    Resolving docker.ru... 91.230.61.204
    Connecting to docker.ru|91.230.61.204|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: â/dev/nullâ

    62% [=======================> ] 66,056,050 7.47M/s eta 7s

    Traceroute:
    traceroute to 91.230.61.204 (91.230.61.204), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 81.177.. 1.560 ms 0.787 ms 0.624 ms
    2 msk-bgw1-xe-0-2-0-0.rt-comm.ru (217.106.6.166) 1.305 ms 74.870 ms 67.403 ms
    3 195.161.157.198 (195.161.157.198) 1.286 ms 1.450 ms 1.477 ms
    4 kt12-1-gw.spb.runnet.ru (194.85.40.154) 12.819 ms 12.697 ms 12.865 ms
    5 pirix.spb.runnet.ru (194.190.255.18) 12.866 ms 13.035 ms 12.864 ms
    6 docker.ru (91.230.61.204) 19.805 ms 15.522 ms 15.331 ms

    Thanks!

  • bobbybobby Member

    Been with nqhost for about 2y now. Not the fastest, but rock solid, literally no downtime at all

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