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they're not hated (just) because of the payment to get in, there's tons of history between the ipt guy and the old guard sites/staffers. the payment thing is a bit ridiculous since they all take "donations" anyway so i don't give it much weight. ipt IS well known for randomly killing accounts to entice you to pay for a new one though, which is pretty shitty (happened to me but by policy i don't pay any of them and oddly they didn't touch my torrentday account).
you can't really compare ipt+/tl to btn/hdb/ptp/red when it comes to retention though, that's where they shine. curation & retention.
mind you the entire private tracker scene is fairly ridiculous and definitely all about gatekeeping but once you generate some buffer on the top ones there's no more effort.
@LEBUserJoe do you have any recommended sources for music? I'm using SoulSeek at the moment and it works pretty well, but is it worth getting a Usenet subscription or doing the interview process for a private tracker like REDacted too?
Music has a fundamental flaw that shows / movies don't and it's no one is right.
Everyone catalogs music differently, acheiving a spotify-level service is just not going to happen like ever and the cost of these services aren't worth pirating
However abusing them, i see differently the approach to music is not usenet, torrents or public DB's it's the services themselves.
Nothing is stopping you leveraging deezers, tidal, spotifys, or anyone else's API for metadata always live, fast and accurate.
Nothing also stops you leveraging a subscription to one of these services for streaming, many good proxies out there you can stream a single subscription on tidal to 7+ people at once, there download API's are generous. (mass download, cache streams or simply proxy)
Imo the $3-4 a month you can grab a subscription for one of these platforms and leverage it for more people is an unbeatable cost to the management to try make it work well.
Get a Deezer subscription and use Deemix
i wonder what one can get in usenet which won't be available in private torrent sites like aviastaz or cinemaz or animez?
IPT is hated not just because they allow pay to join/leech. The owner has a history of doxxing, DDoSing other trackers, stealing peers, stealing accounts, running fake raffles where winners are their own alts, and so on. TL is also pay to join/leech and frowned upon due to that but not hated. Nevertheless, both alone will satisfy almost all mainstream content requirements for most users.
old as fuck stuff, I believe, especially of unscripted/one-off live TV. Stuff like games are pretty easy to get in a private tracker, but 'I specifically want some TV special that aired once in 2010 and never had any kind of home media release' can be really hard, because torrents for it are probably unseeded. But it was probably posted on Usenet in 2010 and is probably still there.
Personally, I'm in a bunch of PT's but also use Usenet. Truly believe eweka is the best in the business, and I got the 15 months deal last year, so will add another 15 months this year.
You are certainly correct nothing beats Eweka, but usenet with a single backbone is not the most fun for all media
Usenet + Debrid is the ultimate combo for 99% of people
I typically find what I don't get on eweka one of the PTs has. It's a bit of a hobby for me and I quite enjoy seeding back.
You're not hardcore enough. When I want to watch something and it's not already downloaded, if it's on news, it's downloaded at 1.5Gbps and it's there by the time I've reached for the Kodi remote. Torrents are at least minutes.
Since we have a topic about this, does anyone know if there are any good places for music videos (except for the one tracker which is basically impossible to get into)? Either torrents or Usenet.
I'd even be happy getting them from Youtube with yt-dlp, but either the quality is horrendous, or it's the censored version, which is annoying for hip hop songs
Added 15 months on to my eweka today with this offer https://www.eweka.nl/en/landing/your-exclusive-deal