r/usenet Black Friday Megathread is up – what deals are you grabbing this year?

Mike01 · November 4

Hey everyone,

For those of you running home labs or self-hosted media setups who still use Usenet alongside torrents/seedboxes, the annual Black Friday megathread just went live over on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/1xgqi2s/black_friday_2026_usenet_deals_megathread/

It rounds up the ongoing deals for providers (unlimited backbones, blocks) and indexers.

loay · November 4

Any recommendation from those providers?

Mike01 · November 4

Usually depends on location, use, and few other things. But I would go with the community recommendation, which is Newshosting for US and Eweka for Europe - and with both you get a bundle right now for Black Friday with extra provider + vpn

Obelous · November 4

I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

MallocVoidstar · November 4

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

If you go through the hassle of getting a Usenet provider and an "indexer" (basically invite-only or paid pirate sites) then you get extremely fast and extremely easy to use downloads that you don't need to seed, or deal with file locker sites with malware ads.

Obelous · November 4

@MallocVoidstar said:

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

If you go through the hassle of getting a Usenet provider and an "indexer" (basically invite-only or paid pirate sites) then you get extremely fast and extremely easy to use downloads that you don't need to seed, or deal with file locker sites with malware ads.

I used exclusively public trackers (tpb, kickass, rarbg, etc.) for a long time so I didn't need to seed, and then I got into a free private tracker that I have been using since rarbg's demise.

I've never really found seeding bothersome and I built up some "upload credit" so I don't really need to seed anymore. Never paid a cent.

Just my experience.

hostnoob · November 4

I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

zed · November 4

you're paying either way shrug, just a different tool

emperor · November 4

I already stacked on newshosting till 2029, so getting unlimited EasyNews and NewsHosting its a win win situation. Also you can check FlixNest sale, its quite good service for peanuts..

Swami · November 4

Good trackers are difficult to get in if you don't do this for a serious hobby.

LEBUserJoe · November 4

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

LEBUserJoe · November 4

If you interested on what Usenet can be like, feel free to PM me I can give you access to either a Jellyfin instance, or AIOStreams with something like Streamio instance and you can leverage my accounts to experience it.

Void · November 4

[@LEBUserJoe said]

I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top

Perhaps you can help me stop grinding on music trackers to achieve the cabal glory? ☺️

LEBUserJoe · November 4

@Void said:

[@LEBUserJoe said]

I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top

Perhaps you can help me stop grinding on music trackers to achieve the cabal glory? ☺️

I would be the guy to speak to.

I have infinite library, never had a title i didn't have in any language
Music, without a terrible public database also infinite library no missing titles all FLAC.

My most proud aspect, I hardly have to work on it anymore, last time I had to fix something was because my server had it's IP forcefully replaced

I added IPTV to my setup last week, with few AI agents configured to automatically repair and reverse pulled sources, fix problems blah blah been solid tbf so far. I refuse to pay for it right now as I only watch occasional UFC / Boxing but rn have US, UK, NL PPV & General channels

All in my my personal setup costs me around $5/month for a 8 core EPYC VPS it runs on, I refuse all transcoding except AUDIO as default provided in 264 MEDIA many containers like 265 are better overall but the hassle of incompatible devices gives me a headache and it's not the only issue

I only run this for myself to be clear but if anyone wanted to try it out im happy to let you, and give you a run-down on how I achieved it i'm no gate keeper.

averagedatahoarder · November 4

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I've mainly used the "easy to join" private trackers up until now, mainly as I was cheap and wasn't able to find a way into the more exclusive private trackers.

I'm pretty happy with the trackers I'm part of, but I do agree that seeding and maintaining a healthy ratio is a bit annoying.

Maybe I'll give Usenet a try someday. Though from a purely philosophical stance I greatly prefer Bittorrent.

LEBUserJoe · November 4

@averagedatahoarder said:

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I've mainly used the "easy to join" private trackers up until now, mainly as I was cheap and wasn't able to find a way into the more exclusive private trackers.

I'm pretty happy with the trackers I'm part of, but I do agree that seeding and maintaining a healthy ratio is a bit annoying.

Maybe I'll give Usenet a try someday. Though from a purely philosophical stance I greatly prefer Bittorrent.

I love you buddy so need invite to any of the top dogs, happy to send you account or invite i have very little use for private trackers anymore, also totally agree with you on the philosophy of torrents being much better and let's say 'resistant' too ceasing it exist but the hassle the maintenance the worry

If you wanna try my setup, you'll see what i mean

(also can hook you up with some usenet accounts with some time left i don't got use for anymore, i rely on 3 backbones 2 of them I have lifetime accounts on im a very lucky boy)

averagedatahoarder · November 4

@LEBUserJoe said:

@averagedatahoarder said:

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I've mainly used the "easy to join" private trackers up until now, mainly as I was cheap and wasn't able to find a way into the more exclusive private trackers.

I'm pretty happy with the trackers I'm part of, but I do agree that seeding and maintaining a healthy ratio is a bit annoying.

Maybe I'll give Usenet a try someday. Though from a purely philosophical stance I greatly prefer Bittorrent.

I love you buddy so need invite to any of the top dogs, happy to send you account or invite i have very little use for private trackers anymore, also totally agree with you on the philosophy of torrents being much better and let's say 'resistant' too ceasing it exist but the hassle the maintenance the worry

If you wanna try my setup, you'll see what i mean

(also can hook you up with some usenet accounts with some time left i don't got use for anymore, i rely on 3 backbones 2 of them I have lifetime accounts on im a very lucky boy)

Damn you are very generous, thank you so much! I’ll send you a message

Void · November 4

@averagedatahoarder said:

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I've mainly used the "easy to join" private trackers up until now, mainly as I was cheap and wasn't able to find a way into the more exclusive private trackers.

I'm pretty happy with the trackers I'm part of, but I do agree that seeding and maintaining a healthy ratio is a bit annoying.

Maybe I'll give Usenet a try someday. Though from a purely philosophical stance I greatly prefer Bittorrent.

Same boat as you lol

I think I’ve managed to reach one step below the top ones; then it became too much of a grind to climb higher. Also decided to give Usenet a try this BF, with Stremio for direct streaming, and from a quick search it seems there is an add-on that supports it, and one would need a Usenet provider with nntp support and one can also self host aiostreams for better control and whatnot

hostnoob · November 4

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I know exactly how Usenet works. I've used it plenty in the past, even frequenting the IRCs and filling requests on there.

In fact I'm currently building a Jellyfin/Ersatz library so I'd even be open to using Usenet again (maybe with a block account or two to fill in the gaps), but so far I've struggled to see anything I can't just get from TL. In the few instances where I can't find what I'm looking for, I also can't find it on Usenet. And on top of that, I can just request it on TL, and it'll most likely get uploaded.

Also, these days most people have fast internet connections or use seedboxes (especially on private trackers), so even when a torrent has just a few seeders, you're still more than likely gonna get excellent speeds. I also don't download anywhere near enough for hitting 10gbit to actually be a concern.

Yes the privacy/anonymity is a big advantage for Usenet, but I've never had any issues at all using torrents.

Rubben · November 4

im grabbing @mans_xd ass

ransomshell · November 4

I just added another 15 months to my Eweka sub. Pretty sure it's their usual deal, but 18.8TB so far according to SAB and they've been nothing but rock solid.

Torrents were great but usenet is infinitely greater for older/less popular stuff.

kait · November 4

Torrent goes brrr.

mans_xd · November 4

@Rubben said:
im grabbing @mans_xd ass

averagedatahoarder · November 4

@Void said:

@averagedatahoarder said:

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I've mainly used the "easy to join" private trackers up until now, mainly as I was cheap and wasn't able to find a way into the more exclusive private trackers.

I'm pretty happy with the trackers I'm part of, but I do agree that seeding and maintaining a healthy ratio is a bit annoying.

Maybe I'll give Usenet a try someday. Though from a purely philosophical stance I greatly prefer Bittorrent.

Same boat as you lol

I think I’ve managed to reach one step below the top ones; then it became too much of a grind to climb higher. Also decided to give Usenet a try this BF, with Stremio for direct streaming, and from a quick search it seems there is an add-on that supports it, and one would need a Usenet provider with nntp support and one can also self host aiostreams for better control and whatnot

Would you be willing to share what you count as the top ones and what you consider a step below?

forest · November 4

@LEBUserJoe said: For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker.

Are you on any good private anime trackers? I used to be super active on AnimeBytes. No idea if it's still good or even around, since I haven't been on for ages.

@LEBUserJoe said: Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

Was going to thank until the Apple reference. The quality is good but for the price, it's trash.

I agree with your point though, but I personally prefer torrents simply because I enjoy seeding, knowing that I'm helping others enjoy what I enjoy.

@LEBUserJoe said: many containers like 265 are better overall but the hassle of incompatible devices gives me a headache and it's not the only issue

Nitpick: H.265 is a video codec, not a container. Containers would be MP4 or Matroska.

But why not AV1? It's better than H.265 and it has better compatibility too, despite being newer.

Void · November 4

@averagedatahoarder said:

@Void said:

@averagedatahoarder said:

@LEBUserJoe said:

@hostnoob said:
I'm happy with torrents and a cheap ~15/yr VPS as a seedbox

I can't imagine there are many things on Usenet that I can't find from torrents. Especially when Usenet is subject to DMCA unlike torrents

@Obelous said:
I have never understood Usenet and I don't think I ever will, especially not paying for access.

Lot of people have no idea the value of Usenet, so Ill mention a couple.

Usenet vs Torrents.

P2P Difference
Usenet, required no seeders stored on dedicated servers mostly in US & EU.

DMCA Difference
Usenet is subject to DMCA but as all the media is stored in small parts, and multiple providers store those parts. If let's say the first 1 minute of Avengers was DMCA'd off omicron, eweka would still have the other part (or another provider) making it much less likely for media to die when you have multiple backbones and often only 1-2 seconds of a video may be missing and can still be enjoyed.

Another great reason is unlike a torrent which actively announces what is inside, Usenet backbones have no idea. They simply have parts of files.

Usenet unlike torrents searching & downloading is not on the same site. Uploads are "indexed" by Usenet Indexers they keep track of what a file is, and where the parts of that file should be. Meaning they can't directly go to Eweka and say we know you have this. They must find that media through an indexer and then prove the backbones have the file parts. Way more effort.

Speed Difference
Although Private trackers can do as usenet does for speed due to it's nature it still requires up-keep, still requires seeding back, still requires general management (Not to mention private is much worse as the media availability is much lower overall) - Not to mention you would need a variety of them which only amplifies the problems

Happily pull unlimited 10gbps from most usenet backbones.

Public torrent + Debrid cache vs Usenet;

Closest to the options much larger community to re-seed things fairly fast but then you have the obvious same issues DMCA, Paying for an account, avoiding there extreme restrictions such as TB usage per day, IP restrictions and so fourth.

Overall why Usenet?

Your lack of understanding of it is why the simple reason it's golden, that of which is not understood cannot be a problem. Unlike torrents and Debrid that make the news 24/7 usenet sits silent in the background with 100x more media, 100x better connectivity and 100x more reliability all for majority of the time a cheaper cost than other alternatives that achieve the same quality.

(Personal reason I prefer Usenet)

H264 availability, remuxes etc
Retention 10+ years restarted when accessed stream movies from any year any time period no problem.
Encryption all usenet providers allow encrypted connection.
Uniformity, no need for complex set of tools for all scenarios of how people can upload a file it's 99% uniform and follow these structure and that which doesn't has already been solved.

For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker. I ran torrents since the 90's and i was ignorant of usenet too. Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

I've mainly used the "easy to join" private trackers up until now, mainly as I was cheap and wasn't able to find a way into the more exclusive private trackers.

I'm pretty happy with the trackers I'm part of, but I do agree that seeding and maintaining a healthy ratio is a bit annoying.

Maybe I'll give Usenet a try someday. Though from a purely philosophical stance I greatly prefer Bittorrent.

Same boat as you lol

I think I’ve managed to reach one step below the top ones; then it became too much of a grind to climb higher. Also decided to give Usenet a try this BF, with Stremio for direct streaming, and from a quick search it seems there is an add-on that supports it, and one would need a Usenet provider with nntp support and one can also self host aiostreams for better control and whatnot

Would you be willing to share what you count as the top ones and what you consider a step below?

PTP, BTN, HDB - Holy cabal trio at the top for mainstream and obscure movies and shows.
EMP for porn
CG, KG for niche stuff
ATH, GGn, TVV, RED, BHD, OPS, BLU, PTer, M-Team, D3Si - decent Mid tiers for Music and mainstream content
AR, LST, NBL, OC, ATH, GPW, DT, SC, AZ, BWT, FL tad above lowest tier
Then comes the likes of TL, SP, DCC, and IPT and sister sites(hated by the tracker community).
.

LEBUserJoe · November 4

@forest said:

@LEBUserJoe said: For those that are just still 'meh' torrents for me I have 100's of TB's seeded on almost every top private tracker.

Are you on any good private anime trackers? I used to be super active on AnimeBytes. No idea if it's still good or even around, since I haven't been on for ages.

@LEBUserJoe said: Until you use it it's like an Apple product. You don't appreciate the true quality and ease of use until your in the eco system.

Was going to thank until the Apple reference. The quality is good but for the price, it's trash.

I agree with your point though, but I personally prefer torrents simply because I enjoy seeding, knowing that I'm helping others enjoy what I enjoy.

@LEBUserJoe said: many containers like 265 are better overall but the hassle of incompatible devices gives me a headache and it's not the only issue

Nitpick: H.265 is a video codec, not a container. Containers would be MP4 or Matroska.

But why not AV1? It's better than H.265 and it has better compatibility too, despite being newer.

Sure i'll have them but if you PM me names of things you need Im in big community and can get them for you np i do have animebytes but im not sure what is the best anymore as i mostly stream via debrid & usenet

yeah sorry container i know its a codec when i said just gets messier thats what i mean AV1.. so many more 264 is straight and true and most home broadband can handle a 10-30mbps stream np just easier and usually get release instantly

yeah like i said i enjoy the torrent space i was apart of it for over 20 year seeded way over 10,000x my usage but just becomes to much of your tech life

raindog308 · November 4

@Obelous said: kickass

Still miss that site. Not just the torrents but the community was excellent. Alas.

LEBUserJoe · November 4

@raindog308 said:

@Obelous said: kickass

Still miss that site. Not just the torrents but the community was excellent. Alas.

Only community that felt like peak PB

raindog308 · November 4

@Void said: Then comes the likes of TL, SP, DCC, and IPT and sister sites(hated by the tracker community).

I always thought that was gatekeeping. Yeah, you can pay to get into IPT. Who cares? The point is distribution, not some purity test.

LEBUserJoe · November 4

@raindog308 said:

@Void said: Then comes the likes of TL, SP, DCC, and IPT and sister sites(hated by the tracker community).

I always thought that was gatekeeping. Yeah, you can pay to get into IPT. Who cares? The point is distribution, not some purity test.

Kinda agree with you, but in general pretty awful for content especially older so no one is missing out skipping them

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