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The provider is expected to keep sufficient spare parts that are already paid for.
Alternatively, they can invest in technology that could generate hardware from thin air, which is what we do at yoursunny summer host.
LOL, first of all, this is LOWENDTalk, not HIGHENDTalk. 😂 The way some folks demand everything, pick on every provider, and create drama over $10–$20/year deals doesn't exactly match what they're paying. Come on, guys, be realistic! 🤣
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I wish some LET members talked as much as they paid. Everyone would be happy! 😂
Now, when those spare parts eventually run out, where are providers supposed to get replacements? From yoursunny summer host's magical hardware factory? If you guys can generate DDR5 RAM out of thin air, send me the order link! 🤣
Jokes aside, replacement parts cost today's prices, not last year's. You guys need to be a little fair to providers too. You can't expect everything for pennies forever.
Anyway, back to my popcorn! 🍿😂
Ye, my hosting provider name is linveo whatever tf this mean
First off, your consumer RAM purchase is irrelevant to what these hosts actually pay. I can source RAM for nowhere near that retail price, especially DDR4, and hosts can do the same. Also, you’re arguing a different point from the one I made. I’m talking about deals being ended after 1–2 years, not asking providers to keep old hardware running forever for 5+ years time-line of changes and price hikes to initial sale and hardware already paid does matter unless your ram dies every month?
Please go look at the average lifespan of hardware. RAM is one of the least likely parts to fail, and even if something does go, a single stick of RAM isn’t killing anyone. An entire CPU replacement is hardly going to bankrupt a host either. These deals were posted with the provider knowing what the hardware costs and what the risks are (this refurbished hardware has simply not ballooned to the point repair is unreasonable its completely illogical and you have no idea of this industry if you still think so. That’s part of running the business not some surprise bill they discovered two years later.
My point about “already paid-off hardware” is specifically about deals on nodes bought before the AI boom. Most LET offer nodes aren’t new DDR5 systems. A lot are older Intel or EPYC, and those CPUs can be picked up used for $40–$150. That’s a very different situation from buying new hardware today. A retail price for a new RAM kit doesn’t tell us what a host pays for used parts, or what it costs them to keep an existing node running.
And then there’s the claim that every other cost has gone up. IPv4 prices have come down, and power, bandwidth, and datacenter costs depend on the provider, location, and contract. (US, for my fleet i've experience either flat prices or often cheaper on multiple of these accounts)
You can’t just say those costs have gone up for this host without showing it. In some of the US regions these providers use, those costs may be flat or lower not higher.
I’m not saying every provider has the same costs, or that every deal can run forever. I’m saying “RAM costs more at retail now” doesn’t explain why a pre-AI deal on already-paid-off hardware has to end after a year or two the hardware hasn't failed, the DC prices have not skyrocketed infact the particular deal we are discussing the hardware was moved to Texas a cheaper DC than previously in. If the offer is only recurring for a limited time, say so when you sell it then I got nothing to say an you got nothing to gag on. That’s exactly why these terms need clear definitions.
Stop gagging on providers for no reason, you have your wife to do that for you.
PS. you cannot say "Providers aren't posting here because of that mentality" blah blah blah while defending them for increased costs.
While on the exact same hand you're being ignorant to the fact less posts can't be because of that said increased costs? are you purposely ignorant or just stupid?
Dude, seriously, you might want to find yourself a good doctor. 😂 And that remark about my wife? I don't even have one, which just shows how quickly you jump to personal attacks without knowing anything. Typical LET mentality: run out of arguments, switch to insults. I'm not here for drama, personal attacks, or to entertain you. I've got better things to do with my time. Have a good one! 😎
Providers are called liars when they lie, not when they try to run a business.
If providers try to run an actual business then they should not sell deals that they can not afford, that's basically step one of running a business.
No one is forcing anyone to run offers or deals but if they do, people expect them to honor those deals. If you can not sustain a lifetime deal due to tomorrows ram prices, then do not sell lifetime deals. It really is as simple as that.
stop with emojis hurting me soul ofc i dont know if u have a wife i dont care was point of context of defending the undefendable not an actual personal insult i think thats fairly obvious not sure what this im a victim mentality of 2026, we all grew up on the same internet right? or we pretending that never happened
Don't take it personally, he has an unhealthy fascination with penises and oralsex so pretty much every post he makes contains a reference to some form of gagging.
If you ignore the infantile language, he does have a point though.
I think the real increase to the operating cost of existing deals is the SSD. It should be replaced every 3 years or less depending on activity. And the used market for SSD/NVMe (light usage or even 90% health) is shrinking.
Omg Drama
Don't mislead the community here by pretending you resolved the issue.
I just logged into the billing panel to check what you actually did:
1. You STILL Refuse to Restore the Annual Recurring Cycle
You did not restore my service to the original Annual Plan ($15.00/yr).
Instead, my panel still says:
1 Month$1.38 / month($16.56/yr)Why are you still stubbornly forcing an existing, grandfathered customer onto a monthly billing cycle? As others have rightly pointed out, hardware inflation affects future acquisitions. Changing recurring contracts for existing users who supported you two years ago violates basic business ethics. Forcing monthly terms means you can arbitrarily jack up the price again whenever you feel like it.
2. Dumping a Trashed IP & Sabotaging Downstream Tasks
Let's talk about the elephant in the room that you completely ignored: the IP quality.
I cooperated with your involuntary datacenter migration. In return, you dumped a completely abused, blacklisted Dallas IP (
23.230.253.x, Scamalytics fraud score 70+) on me. Because this IP is burned, I haven't been able to run any of my downstream tasks or services for months — the server has been sitting practically unusable.When I raised this, your team demanded a $3 fee to replace an IP that you broke during your involuntary migration. How is a customer supposed to pay for a provider's operational failure?
If Linveo truly cares about integrity:
1. Restore the plan to its proper Annual $15.00/year recurring cycle.
2. Clean up your own mess by replacing the burned IP with a clean, usable IPv4 at zero cost.
Otherwise, telling a paying customer "if you want to continue, cool, if not, that's fine too" just proves you have zero regard for customer retention or contractual commitments.
Why do you still care at this point? If I felt like I had been wronged by a provider like this, I wouldn't want to continue my service with them
The provider is expected to price their services according to amortized cost of maintaining a supply of replacements.
We can make anything out of thin air.
It works by rearranging protons, neutrons, and electrons with 3D printer.
Oh, I definitely have no intention of keeping it.
I’m exposing this so future buyers on LET know exactly what to expect when a host promises "recurring promos" and "involuntary migrations". If nobody speaks up and holds them accountable, hosts just get away with deceptive practices.
Okay and again totally fine point, but most of these deals are low storage. not 10's of TB's 1-2TB per deal maybe.
$125 to replace 1TB? if paying more than that your crazy. And once again issue I have is providers know they need replacing that cost was factored in. NVME prices are not great let me be the first to say it but through the right channels NVME is also not as crazy as retail is. Only thing so crazy like this is DDR5.
Is that a potential loss for a provider with such cheap deals... well yes the $40 pre market boom would of been a loss too. these parts aren't 10's of thousands. If a occasional replacement part of $100 or so causes issues then the host is deadpooling surely. Or they are just money hungry because the customers LET brings outside of those deals EASILY covers repair costs. that's the point your ignoring I never said costs have not increased at all or there is a loss / little earning to such deals my point is the LET providers know this and the business they get from LET in general is more profit than loss or no one would ever come here.
Huge thanks to @LEBUserJoe, @rcy026, and @rpqu for breaking down the reality of hosting economics so clearly.
The whole "hardware costs went up" excuse is completely misplaced here. When hosts launch promotional deals on LET, they happily reap all the hype, SEO, and influx of loyal customers. Turning around two years later to unilaterally break recurring commitments on grandfathered users — while quietly sneaking in monthly billing cycles and dumping blacklisted IPs on forced moves — is pure bad faith.
Still zero explanation from @lnx on why existing annual contracts are forcibly turned into monthly terms, or why customers are expected to pay $3 to fix burned IPs caused by their own migration. Silence really says everything.