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KernelCare alternative for Proxmox?

vinhaisvinhais Member

Hello everyone,

Given the frequent new vulnerabilities affecting the Linux kernel, what are you using to apply patches live?

I reached out to KernelCare, but they don’t support Proxmox.

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  • rdesrdes Member

    Kernelcare supports Proxmox but only EOL versions, 7 and 8.
    https://patches.kernelcare.com/?distro=pve-8

    On RHEL-based systems, kpatch works seamlessly, and AI makes patches just as easily as it finds various bugs... There shouldn't be an issues with that on Proxmox either.

  • For Proxmox VE 9 there's honestly no supported livepatch option - the kernel is a custom Proxmox build, so KernelCare/Livepatch/Ksplice all refuse to touch it (KernelCare only lists the EOL PVE 7/8 as rdes said).

    What most people end up doing: just schedule the reboot instead. If you have HA set up, live-migrate the VMs first and the host reboot is a non-event. On a single node, kexec at least skips the BIOS/POST wait so the reboot takes seconds instead of minutes. Not as nice as true livepatching, but it's the practical answer on PVE.

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  • @souhaojicom said:
    For Proxmox VE 9 there's honestly no supported livepatch option - the kernel is a custom Proxmox build, so KernelCare/Livepatch/Ksplice all refuse to touch it (KernelCare only lists the EOL PVE 7/8 as rdes said).

    What most people end up doing: just schedule the reboot instead. If you have HA set up, live-migrate the VMs first and the host reboot is a non-event. On a single node, kexec at least skips the BIOS/POST wait so the reboot takes seconds instead of minutes. Not as nice as true livepatching, but it's the practical answer on PVE.

    Yes, that’s what I’m doing, I just restart the node, but the frequency of KVM escape vulnerabilities is increasing significantly

    I hope someone releases an alternative to Proxmox soon, even if it’s a paid one

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    Proxmox has some paid services though. If they don't offer their own livepatching service, that's a big overlooking from them.

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 20

    @tentor said:
    Proxmox has some paid services though. If they don't offer their own livepatching service, that's a big overlooking from them.

    I got a feeling enough people pay for proxmox it probably would become a thing.

    There are other options other than proxmox like XCP-ng, and of course VMware.

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  • @vinhais said:

    @souhaojicom said:
    For Proxmox VE 9 there's honestly no supported livepatch option - the kernel is a custom Proxmox build, so KernelCare/Livepatch/Ksplice all refuse to touch it (KernelCare only lists the EOL PVE 7/8 as rdes said).

    What most people end up doing: just schedule the reboot instead. If you have HA set up, live-migrate the VMs first and the host reboot is a non-event. On a single node, kexec at least skips the BIOS/POST wait so the reboot takes seconds instead of minutes. Not as nice as true livepatching, but it's the practical answer on PVE.

    Yes, that’s what I’m doing, I just restart the node, but the frequency of KVM escape vulnerabilities is increasing significantly

    I hope someone releases an alternative to Proxmox soon, even if it’s a paid one

    Same routine here. One thing that took the edge off for me: a lot of the KVM escape fixes land in qemu/libvirt, which is userspace, so those patch with a normal apt upgrade and no reboot needed. Only the actual kernel ones force downtime. Doesn't fix the frequency problem, but the real exposure window is smaller than it feels.

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