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Is xeon v2 still worthy in 2026?
Hi everyone
So lately I got a mainboard for $20
but it can only run xeon v2, should I ultilize it or just move on to a newer platform?
And I wanted some opinions on what UPS(s) you guys are using, each of my cluster is running at about 800W, what UPS model is the most stable?
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Rather no than yes. Power consumption will be more than what you get from it, but for something not demanding it can work.
Hi,
perfect for:
Depending on the amount of traffic also for:
it's perfect if you have free electricity to power it
Not really
Kinda only makes sense to get them if they are for free and you somehow also have free electricity at your place.
Hi,
i do not think so.
The use cases i mentioned do not require CPU power ( except you are doing fancy stuff like ceph or so ).
An E5 2670v2 will bring you 10 cores / 20 threads with a TDP of 115W while you get 1600 passmark benchmark points. A 2650Lv2 will give you the same amount of cores with 70W TDP and 900 passmark points. While the TDP in this generation of CPU's were closer to the power consume compared to CPU's nowadays where you can assume 2-4x power consume of the TDP value on high load.
If you assume that the hardware cost basically 0, the power cost they produce are for sure not above of what recent systems use. In fact they are below.
The only reason to use recent hardware is for demanding workload ( which is not the case for email servers, low demand vps's, storage servers ) and, depending on the amount of traffic also firewall and VPN.
In fact you get a server close to free + your power consume will definitely not be higher than of recent systems.
But the extra compute power those recent systems will give you will just remain unused on your emailing or file or ... server.
So buying now recent hardware for backup server / ... server is just killing cash without gain.
At least thats my experience ( while i belong to the people who are refreshing their pool and technology quiet often ). But in fact, if you want to make money, you dont do it by buying recent hardware for low compute power demanding applications.
xeon consumes a lot of power yes, so I'm finding some reliable ups (my country cuts electricity twice a month in avg), and I'm thinking to build a solar panel system too, but it seems far more expensive than I expected.
How about rpi?
I just checked their price, to achieve the same performance as dual xeon v2 I will need about 4-5 pi 5, which can bankrupt me
Hi,
under this special circumstances, investing more into a recent ultra low tdp cpu ( up to 35W TDP ) might make sense so that you can get a UPS of smaller dimensions.
Dont forget, the UPS will also need to power your internet connection and what ever belongs to it.
Simply use your favorite search engine / AI to search for ultra low tdp CPU's. They are also not expensive. If you do not need x86 CPU's then actually an ARM based CPU and/or raspberry PI and similar might be interesting.
That all depends on your actual usecase of course. A server to host recent gameservers wont work with that ;-)
So i suggest you to strictly answer this questions:
Most servers from that generation do idle not below 100W.
While I get a "modern" Ryzen system to idle below 20W.
Sure there is a difference between desktop class vs. server stuff, and the surrounding hardware also plays a big role in here.
But I would definitely not say that this generation of hardware consume less power than more modern variants.
Hi,
Some time ago I got a "cheap" board with intel N100 integrated which idles at around 8-10W.
I suspect single core performance of the CPU may be equal or higher than of 12+ years old CPUs while in general offering better power efficiency.
The concern will be with DDR4/DDR5 RAM prices which are quite high as we know. DDR3 for e5v2 can be cheaper/easier to get nowadays.
If the OP is looking for enterprise-grade platform or one with lots of PCIe slots/expansion ports, then e5v2 may be viable.
I'm planning to setup another storage server (that mainboard has 6 pcies and a lot of sata ports) and most ultra low power cpus (for example n100) won't have that much space. I expected to put dual 2630L v2, but the mainboard do not support L version.
For the cost, I've compared some options:
1) Ryzen 7 3800xt + 64gb ddr4 + vga ~ $550 (with mobo)
2) 5 PI 5 (8gb version) ~ $1000
3) dual 2680v2 (included in the $20 mainboard) + 512gb ddr3 ~ $500 (mainboard itself has onboard vga and ipmi)
if I use (1) and (2), I only need a 500W ups (include all other storage servers and routers), which is around $45 (~$130 for PFC PSU)
with (3) I will need a 700-800W ups, it will be $70 for non PFC and $300 for the others.
But 800W cost ~40% more than 500W per month 🫤
My location cuts minimum twice in morning..... Then increases in multifold during the day.....
When my dream ends..... A big gap....... And then your reality starts.
Yup... And they locked down hardware modding so those lucky few who are soldering gods can't swap the DRAMs for bigger ones either.
Maybe get 5700G for 8c and APU.
Personally, I'm fine with DDR3 era gear as long as you weed through and find the power efficient stuff. It depends on what you want to do with it, though. If you want to host stuff that's not CPU hungry, single socket is great. If you want to do a fair bit with it, then your dual socket could be good.
If you can keep the power needs reasonable, your best setup is going to be something like a 24V solar battery bank with a wide input PicoPSU. No inverter losses then. You can also do 12V, but PicoPSU's 12V stuff cuts off like right at 14V, so it's touchy.
You can also have a 24V or 48V battery bank and then use a converter to drop to 12V and use 12V PicoPSU from there.
i just got 3900x and x570 for $170, I will post YABS here once it shipped (for comparison)
Exactly this. There's no reason to go with that machine if all you need is cheap processing power. All it has that you can't get with a newer, cheaper, lower-power machine is lots of PCIe lanes and vPro features.
yes without a doubt