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Alternatives to the hated WHMCS?

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  • cloudblastcloudblast Member, Patron Provider

    We do offer a whitelabel version of our control panel (same as our control panel), ofcourse that's niche for hourly billed VPS servers.

  • @NotFoundException said:

    @sitepape said:

    @Jord said:

    @emgh said:
    It’s missing the ete

    I found it

    Lets just say, you are missing alot of modules/integrations.
    DomainNameApi
    NowPayments
    Paymento
    Instamojo
    20i StackCP

    If i go on whmcs marketplace, i can just find whatever i need or even more than that. I will be randomly buying multiple plugins just to enhance the features or integrate anything.
    Any payment gateway, any control panel is launched. They focus on whmcs plugin only.
    Other provides like you have to build that on their own.

    Well, WHMCS has somewhat of a monopoly. Tho every new hoster that chooses WHMCS feeds into said monopoly and makes it less likely that another system can catch up. For mosts hosts I see around here a simple Paymenter or even HostBill.

    HostBill is great, their module library is bigger than any other competitors.
    Most of the host uses Whmcs, blesta & hostbill.
    Paymenter for a hobby projects i guess.
    The new thing you mentioned nahh, never heard of, also the pricing, the ui seems not welcoming users.

  • @sitepape said: Paymenter for a hobby projects i guess.

    It got a few updates and addons/plugins which would make it easily useable for multiple hosts on here, that I know. Tho it currently doesn't give you the potentiell to scale to many providers, gateways etc.

    @sitepape said: The new thing you mentioned nahh, never heard of, also the pricing, the ui seems not welcoming users.

    Hm, it's focused more on the German market as it's a German company developing it. The owners are pretty nice. AFAIK the UI looks pretty similar to HostBill, but it's still in the early days.

    Still doesn't change the fact for me, that WHMCS should be thrown from it's thrown or at least get bigger competition to act more quickly on security and bug fixes and optimizations.

  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep, Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @sitepape said:

    @Jord said:

    @emgh said:
    It’s missing the ete

    I found it

    Lets just say, you are missing alot of modules/integrations.
    DomainNameApi
    NowPayments
    Paymento
    Instamojo
    20i StackCP

    If i go on whmcs marketplace, i can just find whatever i need or even more than that. I will be randomly buying multiple plugins just to enhance the features or integrate anything.
    Any payment gateway, any control panel is launched. They focus on whmcs plugin only.
    Other provides like you have to build that on their own.

    Yep, we will never catch up to WHMCS, I wouldn’t want to, would rather build what people actually want than thousands of plugins that they don’t need. We also focus on different markets as well, not just web hosting, we’ve recently launched a few plugins recently, control panels/domains/ssl providers.

    But we also focus on freelancers, companies who want to use us for recurring billing within their applications using our API and our very own white label vpn solution where you get your own apps, billing and customer management all bundled in one price. You just bring your servers you want to offer to your customers.

  • SKRIMESKRIME Member, Patron Provider

    Honestly, building your own panel is a different beast but in our experience worth it. We run our own custom panel from day one - no WHMCS, no HostBill, no Paymenter. Yes, it's a lot of work upfront, but you control everything: UX, features, integrations, billing logic, design. No waiting on third-party updates, no clunky plugin patchwork, no compromises because "the panel doesn't support that."

    For anyone serious about hosting long-term, I'd always recommend going custom over picking from the shelf. The off-the-shelf solutions are fine to get started, but you'll always end up working around their limits at some point.

  • @nameserver said:

    @BilohBucks said:
    Come join to Paymenter gang

    I tried it when it first released, can't remember the version but it looked like a old php software. Just had a look and the UI looks so much better.

    even their website looks much professional now

    Yup, a lot of stuff was changed under the hood as well. + domain support will be added soon

  • raviravi Veteran
    edited April 13

    The Simple Pricing of WHMDC starts from £25.00/month

  • MynymboxMynymbox Member, Host Rep
    edited April 13

    We were thinking about to migrate to Blesta. Blesta itself is really great and their upcoming Blesta 6 looks a way better. We also sponsored some mapping files for the migration from WHMCS to Blesta. But still we miss really a lot of modules / plugins. So we had to cancel our plans with Blesta for now.
    Hostbill looks not bad, it seems that they offer everything we need. The price seems to be okay.
    Unfortunately there is no demo account for Hostbill, they offer money back if you are unhappy with them.

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  • @nameserver said: I saw a post of WHMDC on lowendspirit and wondering if any provider is going to move to use that. I've seen people saying how much they hate WHMCS, specially the pricing.

    It seems interesting

    I also love blesta and it comes free with some provider

    Yeah WHMDC is interesting for sure, especially since it’s trying to be a lightweight, self-hosted alternative to WHMCS without all the bloat and recurring licensing stuff

  • VIbe-code one, not comically use proper packages, and solutions AI is your tool to put the puzzle together.

    Do it properly = good, safe results.

  • @NotFoundException said:

    @sitepape said:

    @Jord said:

    @emgh said:
    It’s missing the ete

    I found it

    Lets just say, you are missing alot of modules/integrations.
    DomainNameApi
    NowPayments
    Paymento
    Instamojo
    20i StackCP

    If i go on whmcs marketplace, i can just find whatever i need or even more than that. I will be randomly buying multiple plugins just to enhance the features or integrate anything.
    Any payment gateway, any control panel is launched. They focus on whmcs plugin only.
    Other provides like you have to build that on their own.

    Well, WHMCS has somewhat of a monopoly. Tho every new hoster that chooses WHMCS feeds into said monopoly and makes it less likely that another system can catch up. For mosts hosts I see around here a simple Paymenter or even HostBill or HostWare (https://hostware.io/) would do the trick too.

    "Monopoly" is a stretch, they literally supply services to those to lazy or not willing to create there own, majority of there user base re-sells everything, or a large portion.

    LET Providers with real hardware is the lower % of there userbase.

  • AndreixAndreix Host Rep, Veteran

    Why replace stuff, when you can improve stuff?

    https://github.com/serverspan/whmcs-modules

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  • The new blesta v6 looks great

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  • @LEBUserJoe said: Do it properly = good, safe results.

    AI agent + human knowledge with experience = proper output
    AI agent + does it without mistakes = the $1 billion startup output

  • We do offer a whitelabel version of our control panel (same as our control panel), ofcourse that's niche for hourly billed VPS servers.

    If you can provide the white-label control panel with monthly billing instead of hourly billing, please let me know. Also, could you share the pricing.

  • LeviLevi Veteran

    Alternatives: cgpt 6, fable. Few weeks. Win.

    Thanked by 3hudsonsir buggedout tux
  • @Levi said: Win.

    Win for hackers at least. :D

    (Not like WHMCS is much better though...)

  • Comercial Software for me it's like this

    Hostbil > WHMCS (Only because it's customisable) > Blesta

    Paymenter is also good, free and opensourced (I even made few extension and theme for it) but it lacks many features

  • I don't get what critical features FOSSBilling lacks that prevents people from using it.

  • MynymboxMynymbox Member, Host Rep

    One often overlooked point is migrating from WHMCS to another solution. It all sounds easy, but it is far from it. There isn't a nice way and migrations often fail. You have to run 2 systems often parallel which can lead to billing issues etc. No alternative has a good and easy way

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  • MynymboxMynymbox Member, Host Rep

    @forest said:

    @Levi said: Win.

    Win for hackers at least. :D

    (Not like WHMCS is much better though...)

    At least you can send the hackers to WHMCS for a bug bounty since it is a third party development software :smile:

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