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Servury Blackbox zero-knowledge VPS - Encrypted RAM, Encrypted disk and no guest agent - from 9.99$

servuryservury Member, Patron Provider
edited August 22 in Offers

I'm Matteo, I run Servury, a 100% anonymous VPS/VDS provider platform. Today, I'm thrilled to present to you our new product - Blackbox, which I believe is the first of it's kind. It's a zero knowledge VPS, where even we (the hypervisor) can't read your VM's memory, disk, or run arbitrary commands inside of it.

Every hosting provider on this forum can do three things to your VPS. They can dump your RAM from the hypervisor. They can execute commands inside your guest without your SSH key. And they can read your disk by mounting it from the host. That is not a knock on anyone - it is simply how virtualisation works, and every provider here, including the big ones, sits in that position whether they want to or not.

This is a box where we can't do any of the three. Not "we promise not to" or "we have a policy". The capability is removed, and you can verify all of it from inside your own VM.

We are not the cheapest box on this forum and we're not trying to be. If you want 4 GB for $20/year, that offer exists and it isn't this one. What you're paying for is a machine its operator cannot look inside.


The three things, and how you check them yourself

1. We can't read your memory

AMD SEV-SNP. Your guest's RAM is encrypted with a key that lives in the CPU's security processor.

$ dmesg | grep -i "Memory Encryption"
Memory Encryption Features active: AMD SEV SEV-ES SEV-SNP

$ dmesg | grep VMPL
SEV: SNP running at VMPL0.

And you don't have to take that output on faith either, because the attestation device is exposed to you:

$ ls -l /dev/sev-guest
crw------- 1 root root 10, 262 /dev/sev-guest

That is the interface to the AMD PSP. You can pull a signed attestation report from the silicon and check it against AMD's root of trust yourself. We cannot forge it and we cannot intercept it.

2. We can't reach into your guest

Nearly every VPS you have ever rented runs a guest agent - a daemon inside your VM listening on a virtio serial port, which lets the host run commands as root inside your guest, read arbitrary files, and reset your password. It is how "reset root password" works in a control panel. It is enabled by default in Proxmox, and both Azure and GCP keep their agents running inside confidential VMs too.

On a Servury Blackbox there is no agent, and no port for one. It isn't disabled in software where it could be switched back on - the virtio-serial device is absent from the QEMU command line entirely. From inside your VM:

$ ls /dev/virtio-ports/ 2>/dev/null
(nothing - there is no org.qemu.guest_agent.0)

Because the channel does not exist, "reset my root password from the panel" is a feature we genuinely cannot offer you on a Blackbox VM. If we have the ability to reset your root password, you're forced to trust we won't tamper with your VM at any given time, which is utter garbage in our opinion. Don't trust, verify.

3. We can't read your disk

Optional LUKS full-disk encryption, unlocked over SSH by dropbear in the initramfs. You set the passphrase yourself on first boot and it never touches our systems. Combined with the above: your disk is ciphertext at rest, your RAM is ciphertext in use, and the key exists only in encrypted memory we can't read.

And we don't know who you are

No email, no phone, no KYC. Signup hands you a credential and that is the whole account. Payment is 11 coins through our own processor - our node, our watcher, no third party in the middle collecting your addresses and your IP - or Stripe, or cash by mail.

Zero logs. No access logs anywhere on the platform, including the looking glass below. This is the only thing you can't really verify. See Trusting Trust (Ken Thompson, 1984). We'll be looking into getting an audit done in the future.

No-JS Compatible. Servury is designed to work with JS disabled. For people who pay with credit cards, we only load the Stripe assets when credit card is explicitely selected as a payment method.

Kickass features

We own the whole stack. AS395904, 23.155.44.0/24, 2602:f41c::/36, our own switch, our
own hardware at Cologix MTL2. If you traceroute the looking glass you are looking at the same path your VM sits behind, because it is literally an address out of the same /24 your VM gets assigned from.

BYOIP Bring your own prefix and we announce it from AS395904, v4 and v6, as buttons in the panel rather than a ticket. RPKI verification is automated.

rDNS you set yourself, in the panel, not by ticket.

12 OS templates, all UEFI, all built by hand: Debian 12/13, Ubuntu 24.04/26.04, Rocky 9, AlmaLinux 9/10, FreeBSD 14/15, OpenBSD 7.8/7.9, Windows Server 2025.

Manual abuse report handling, on the Pro tier.

Priority human support, from me, the founder. On the pro tier you get my cellphone number.


Plans

Both plans are on the Montreal node (Cologix MTL2). Every plan: 1 dedicated IPv4 + a routed /64 IPv6, 10 Gbps unmetered, NVMe on a ZFS mirror, full root, KVM.

Plan vCPU RAM Disk Price
Blackbox Core 1 512 MB 50 GB NVMe $9.99/mo

Order: https://servury.com

Need something bigger? The nodes are 32c/64t EPYC with 250 GB of RAM and 7 TB of NVMe, so there is a lot of room above the Pro plan. I'll build a custom spec - more cores, more RAM, a big volume, whatever you actually need - on 6 months prepaid. Tell me the spec and I'll quote it in the thread so everyone can see the number.


Looking glass, test IPs, test files

https://mtl-lg.servury.com

  • Looking glass IPv4: 23.155.44.21
  • Looking glass IPv6: 2602:f41c:0:a::1
  • Test files: 100 MB / 1 GB / 10 GB
  • iperf3: iperf3 -c mtl-lg.servury.com -p 5201 -P 4 (add -R for the other direction)

The looking glass keeps no access log and records no visitor IP addresses - same as the rest of the platform. It also serves Bootstrap from our own host rather than a CDN, so opening it doesn't hand your address to a third party either.


YABS

Blackbox Pro - 2 vCPU / 4 GB / 50 GB

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#                     v2026-07-24                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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Fri Aug 21 01:49:49 AM UTC 2026

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 1 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC-v4 Processor
CPU cores  : 2 @ 2794.748 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 3.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 49.1 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.101+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : Servury
ASN        : AS395904 Servury
Host       : Servury
Location   : Montreal, Quebec (QC)
Country    : Canada

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda3):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 281.33 MB/s  (68.6k) | 3.68 GB/s    (56.1k)
Write      | 282.08 MB/s  (68.8k) | 3.69 GB/s    (56.4k)
Total      | 563.42 MB/s (137.5k) | 7.37 GB/s   (112.6k)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 12.83 GB/s   (24.4k) | 3.39 GB/s     (3.2k)
Write      | 13.51 GB/s   (25.7k) | 3.62 GB/s     (3.4k)
Total      | 26.34 GB/s   (50.2k) | 7.01 GB/s     (6.6k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           

Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.31 Gbits/sec  | 3.11 Gbits/sec  | 71.6 ms        

Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.70 Gbits/sec  | 3.02 Gbits/sec  | 79.7 ms        

Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.08 Gbits/sec  | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 169 ms         

Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 643 Mbits/sec   | 900 Mbits/sec   | 246 ms         

Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 3.28 Gbits/sec  | 3.83 Gbits/sec  | 57.8 ms        

Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 9.17 Gbits/sec  | 8.40 Gbits/sec  | 9.92 ms        

Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.59 Gbits/sec  | 1.99 Gbits/sec  | 119 ms         

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           

Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.64 Gbits/sec  | 3.03 Gbits/sec  | 70.6 ms        

Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.63 Gbits/sec  | 3.06 Gbits/sec  | 80.3 ms        

Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.04 Gbits/sec  | 1.26 Gbits/sec  | 169 ms         

Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 694 Mbits/sec   | 905 Mbits/sec   | 239 ms         

Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 3.26 Gbits/sec  | 3.92 Gbits/sec  | 57.8 ms        

Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 9.22 Gbits/sec  | 9.23 Gbits/sec  | 10.0 ms        

Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.62 Gbits/sec  | 2.00 Gbits/sec  | 125 ms         

---------------------------------
Test            | Value                         
                |                               
Single Core     | 1809                          
Multi Core      | 3316                          
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/19039180

YABS completed in 13 min 23 sec

Blackbox Core - 1 vCPU / 512 MB / 50 GB

Geekbench : GB6 does not fit in 512 MB.

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#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2026-07-24                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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Fri Aug 21 01:19:20 AM UTC 2026

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 1 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC-v4 Processor
CPU cores  : 1 @ 2794.748 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 396.8 MiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 49.1 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Kernel     : 6.12.101+deb13-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : Servury
ASN        : AS395904 Servury
Host       : Servury
Location   : Montreal, Quebec (QC)
Country    : Canada

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda3):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 156.08 MB/s  (38.1k) | 1.77 GB/s    (27.0k)
Write      | 156.50 MB/s  (38.2k) | 1.77 GB/s    (27.1k)
Total      | 312.58 MB/s  (76.3k) | 3.54 GB/s    (54.1k)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 6.43 GB/s    (12.2k) | 7.66 GB/s     (7.3k)
Write      | 6.77 GB/s    (12.9k) | 8.17 GB/s     (7.8k)
Total      | 13.21 GB/s   (25.2k) | 15.84 GB/s   (15.1k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           

Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.00 Gbits/sec  | 1.62 Gbits/sec  | 71.2 ms        

Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.44 Gbits/sec  | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 80.2 ms        

Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 805 Mbits/sec   | 633 Mbits/sec   | 169 ms         

Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 504 Mbits/sec   | 428 Mbits/sec   | 241 ms         

Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.48 Gbits/sec  | 2.03 Gbits/sec  | 57.0 ms        

Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 9.28 Gbits/sec  | 9.14 Gbits/sec  | 9.61 ms        

Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 976 Mbits/sec   | 117 ms         

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           

Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.02 Gbits/sec  | 1.58 Gbits/sec  | 70.7 ms        

Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.85 Gbits/sec  | 1.38 Gbits/sec  | 80.2 ms        

Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 863 Mbits/sec   | 577 Mbits/sec   | 169 ms         

Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 500 Mbits/sec   | 407 Mbits/sec   | 249 ms         

Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.39 Gbits/sec  | 1.92 Gbits/sec  | 57.8 ms        

Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 8.98 Gbits/sec  | 9.21 Gbits/sec  | 10.1 ms        

Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.15 Gbits/sec  | busy            | 118 ms         

YABS completed in 7 min 5 sec

Network summary, from the Pro run - Montreal is a good place to sit if you care about the US
northeast:

Destination Send Recv Ping
NYC 9.34 Gbit/s 9.35 Gbit/s 9.8 ms
Los Angeles 3.33 Gbit/s 4.15 Gbit/s 57 ms
London 2.19 Gbit/s 3.00 Gbit/s 71 ms
Amsterdam 2.66 Gbit/s 3.10 Gbit/s 80 ms
Sao Paulo 1.57 Gbit/s 2.01 Gbit/s 117 ms

Terms

Prohibited: anything illegal, CSAM, fraud/phishing, unauthorised attacks on other systems,
spam, cryptocurrency mining, and IP infringement. Violations mean suspension without refund.

We process abuse reports from law enforcement with valid legal process, NCMEC, our network
transit, and valid DMCA notices.

Full terms: https://servury.com/terms/


Contact

Happy to run any test you want on the looking glass, and if there's a specific YABS variant or a benchmark you'd like to see on one of these plans, ask and I'll post it.

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Comments

  • Unique product, good luck!

    Thanked by 2servury buggedout
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep
    edited August 22

    @servury said: Every hosting provider on this forum can do three things to your VPS. They can dump your RAM from the hypervisor.

    One small detail, we (onidel) supported SEV-SNP on our VPS servers for over a year now, recently adding support for direct measured boot as well.

    It's always nice seeing more providers joining in though, your offer seems unique and I believe you'll certainly find a market. I wish you best luck with sales! :3

    @servury said: No-JS Compatible. Servury is designed to work with JS disabled.

    @Yuki_ seems like perfect product for you ;)

  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @oloke said:

    @servury said: Every hosting provider on this forum can do three things to your VPS. They can dump your RAM from the hypervisor.

    One small detail, we (onidel) supported SEV-SNP on our VPS servers for over a year now, recently adding support for direct measured boot as well.

    It's always nice seeing more providers joining in though, your offer seems unique and I believe you'll certainly find a market. I wish you best luck with sales! :3

    @servury said: No-JS Compatible. Servury is designed to work with JS disabled.

    @Yuki_ seems like perfect product for you ;)

    Yeah, I should've specified any providers who don't offer sev-snp can read your VMs memory. The 2 other points still stand though.

    Thanks for the kind words :)

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • itzsenuitzsenu Member
    edited August 22

    @servury Nice product, the UI/UX is clean but I found a few little issues though, some small glitches in the UI. Happens randomly in random places, including on the deploy virtual server page. It's not always showing, but the ISP proxy one always glitches and also text. Hope you fix them ;)

    Thanked by 1servury
  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @itzsenu said:
    @servury Nice product, the UI/UX is clean but I found a few little issues though, some small glitches in the UI. Happens randomly in random places, including on the deploy virtual server page. It's not always showing, but the ISP proxy one always glitches and also text. Hope you fix them ;)

    If you send me screenshots of said glitches via the live support on-site, I'll give you a free month on Blackbox Core :)

    Thanked by 1itzsenu
  • Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Thanked by 1servury
  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Thanked by 1OsirisBlack
  • Safer than dedicated?

  • @forest might be interested in this.

  • ajayrajayr Member

    Do you plan to offer Blackbox plans in the EU anytime soon?

  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @Dyingcat said:
    Safer than dedicated?

    It 100% depends what the dedicated server is. If the dedicated server is some vanilla Xeon with nothing special, then yes, absolutely, but nothing stops you from making your OWN blackbox on a dedicated server with an AMD EPYC Milan+ CPU (SEV-SNP support) and setting up remote LUKS yourself.

    But then again, what personal information does the dedicated server provider require? Do they require KYC? We personally require absolutely nothing. Anyone can sign up without even giving us an e-mail address.

  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @ajayr said:
    Do you plan to offer Blackbox plans in the EU anytime soon?

    Absolutely, yes. I simply want to test the demand first with the Montreal location.

    @concept said:
    @forest might be interested in this.

    Forest actually deserves some credit for Blackbox existing in the first place, 4-5 months ago I posted a thread on here asking for user feedback on Servury and feature ideas, and he mentioned SEV-SNP, along with a bunch of other feedback. Let's say I took the feedback seriously :)

  • timmmytimmmy Member

    glws!

    Thanked by 1servury
  • @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • @concept said:
    @forest might be interested in this.

    They don't mention Tor in the terms. That's not a good first sign.

  • @servury which hypervisor you use if you don't mind me asking.

  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:

    @concept said:
    @forest might be interested in this.

    They don't mention Tor in the terms. That's not a good first sign.

    True, I've yet to update the TOS. Tor relays weren't possible before I released Blackbox. I talked about Tor in the thread though - exit relays are fully allowed on the Pro plan since I personally handle all abuse reports by hand.

    Thanked by 1tzuli
  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @byteangel said:
    @servury which hypervisor you use if you don't mind me asking.

    Proxmox for now, subject to change if we find / the community suggests a better alternative that also supports SEV-SNP.

    Thanked by 1tzuli
  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    I'm not sure what you mean by DoS, are you talking about inbound attacks or outbound attacks?

    As for seizures, we have a warrant canary. Not only that, but a seizure would be completely useless in the first place, they'd get good old ciphertext.

  • @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    I'm not sure what you mean by DoS, are you talking about inbound attacks or outbound attacks?

    Inbound.

    As for seizures, we have a warrant canary. Not only that, but a seizure would be completely useless in the first place, they'd get good old ciphertext.

    So? They seize and then first try and try to get you to provide keys and then that goes back and forth until someone says can't do and gets returned a year later.

    I recall some Shaw Cable letterhead notepad (never used!) was seized once and then it was twisted in the court papers to say the notepad was stolen and intended some sort of fraud, when it was simply left in the building when the tenant moved in and was never thrown out. It sat in the same place for like a decade untouched. Like wtf would they seize unwritten notepad paper when looking for specific records, digital and in filing cabinets totally unrelated to the search warrant? No fucking clue, but expect everything to get scooped in a seizure. So remind customers to have off-site backups!

    Thanked by 1servury
  • servuryservury Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    I'm not sure what you mean by DoS, are you talking about inbound attacks or outbound attacks?

    Inbound.

    As for seizures, we have a warrant canary. Not only that, but a seizure would be completely useless in the first place, they'd get good old ciphertext.

    So? They seize and then first try and try to get you to provide keys and then that goes back and forth until someone says can't do and gets returned a year later.

    I recall some Shaw Cable letterhead notepad (never used!) was seized once and then it was twisted in the court papers to say the notepad was stolen and intended some sort of fraud, when it was simply left in the building when the tenant moved in and was never thrown out. It sat in the same place for like a decade untouched. Like wtf would they seize unwritten notepad paper when looking for specific records, digital and in filing cabinets totally unrelated to the search warrant? No fucking clue, but expect everything to get scooped in a seizure. So remind customers to have off-site backups!

    We currently do not have mitigations in place for inbound DoS. Though if the issue arises in the future, creating a sovereign solution for that definitely won't be a problem. Same thing if the community shows interest for it, I'll get on it and make it happen, no doubt about it.

    I have a hard time believing law enforcement would take more than an hour to figure out that any kind of seizure or bruteforcing LUKS encryption would be completely futile, but your point about everything getting scooped in a single seizure is absolutely valid, perhaps some kind of redundant backup system could alleviate the extent of the problems a seizure could cause to customers.

  • @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    I'm not sure what you mean by DoS, are you talking about inbound attacks or outbound attacks?

    Inbound.

    As for seizures, we have a warrant canary. Not only that, but a seizure would be completely useless in the first place, they'd get good old ciphertext.

    So? They seize and then first try and try to get you to provide keys and then that goes back and forth until someone says can't do and gets returned a year later.

    I recall some Shaw Cable letterhead notepad (never used!) was seized once and then it was twisted in the court papers to say the notepad was stolen and intended some sort of fraud, when it was simply left in the building when the tenant moved in and was never thrown out. It sat in the same place for like a decade untouched. Like wtf would they seize unwritten notepad paper when looking for specific records, digital and in filing cabinets totally unrelated to the search warrant? No fucking clue, but expect everything to get scooped in a seizure. So remind customers to have off-site backups!

    We currently do not have mitigations in place for inbound DoS. Though if the issue arises in the future, creating a sovereign solution for that definitely won't be a problem. Same thing if the community shows interest for it, I'll get on it and make it happen, no doubt about it.

    I have a hard time believing law enforcement would take more than an hour to figure out that any kind of seizure or bruteforcing LUKS encryption would be completely futile, but your point about everything getting scooped in a single seizure is absolutely valid, perhaps some kind of redundant backup system could alleviate the extent of the problems a seizure could cause to customers.

    Their task is to collect those things, catalog them and then they go to their experts lab's for analysis. There's nobody there technical evaluating your response to the Anton Pillar order or a search and seizure. You fight that in court.

  • forestforest Member
    edited August 23

    This is awesome! I'm very happy to see a new privacy-first provider, especially one that goes farther than merely "we take crypto and don't ask for KYC". I am curious how you'll handle the influx of bad actors as others have pointed out. Do you have experience with it? I don't want the MJJs and phishers to catch you off-guard!

    @servury said: On a Servury Blackbox there is no agent, and no port for one. It isn't disabled in software where it could be switched back on - the virtio-serial device is absent from the QEMU command line entirely.

    Nice reduction of attack surface! I'm curious, do you also perform other hardening measures for QEMU? When I set up VMs, my defaults usually look something like this:

    -nodefaults \
    -machine pc-q35-2.8,accel=kvm,vmport=off,mem-merge=off,spcr=off \
    -cpu host \
    -accel kvm,kernel-irqchip=split \
    -object rng-random,filename=/dev/random,id=rng0 \
    -device virtio-rng-pci,rng=rng0,max-bytes=4096,period=1000 \
    -run-with chroot=/var/empty,user=qemu \
    -sandbox on,obsolete=deny,elevateprivileges=deny,spawn=deny,resourcecontrol=deny
    

    Btw, adding -device i6300esb -watchdog-action reset would allow guests to auto-reboot if they freeze, which is very useful and I'm not sure why more providers don't do that!

    If you don't mind, could you post the output of lshw; lspci -v; lsmod; taskset -c 0 cpuid -1r from a guest?

    @servury said: Manual abuse report handling, on the Pro tier.

    On the non-pro tier, would it be possible to run a Tor exit if all abuse reports are forwarded to the customer and the customer handles them within 24 hours?

    @servury said: Nearly every VPS you have ever rented runs a guest agent - a daemon inside your VM listening on a virtio serial port, which lets the host run commands as root inside your guest, read arbitrary files, and reset your password.

    I actually wrote a guide here describing how to make the guest agent safer. If you ever end up needing features that could only be done via the guest agent like getting usage stats for the VM dashboard, you can whitelist the guest agent RPC commands so that it won't execute any dangerous ones.

    @servury said: 1. We can't read your memory

    While this is ostensibly true, it is theoretically possible for you, with physical access, to bypass AMD SEV-SNP even using off-the-shelf hardware, although it takes some expertise and isn't trivial: https://tee.fail

    And GLWS!

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  • forestforest Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    I'm not sure what you mean by DoS, are you talking about inbound attacks or outbound attacks?

    Inbound.

    As for seizures, we have a warrant canary. Not only that, but a seizure would be completely useless in the first place, they'd get good old ciphertext.

    So? They seize and then first try and try to get you to provide keys and then that goes back and forth until someone says can't do and gets returned a year later.

    I recall some Shaw Cable letterhead notepad (never used!) was seized once and then it was twisted in the court papers to say the notepad was stolen and intended some sort of fraud, when it was simply left in the building when the tenant moved in and was never thrown out. It sat in the same place for like a decade untouched. Like wtf would they seize unwritten notepad paper when looking for specific records, digital and in filing cabinets totally unrelated to the search warrant? No fucking clue, but expect everything to get scooped in a seizure. So remind customers to have off-site backups!

    We currently do not have mitigations in place for inbound DoS. Though if the issue arises in the future, creating a sovereign solution for that definitely won't be a problem. Same thing if the community shows interest for it, I'll get on it and make it happen, no doubt about it.

    I have a hard time believing law enforcement would take more than an hour to figure out that any kind of seizure or bruteforcing LUKS encryption would be completely futile, but your point about everything getting scooped in a single seizure is absolutely valid, perhaps some kind of redundant backup system could alleviate the extent of the problems a seizure could cause to customers.

    Their task is to collect those things, catalog them and then they go to their experts lab's for analysis. There's nobody there technical evaluating your response to the Anton Pillar order or a search and seizure. You fight that in court.

    It's rare for the entire system to be physically seized unless it's clear that the provider is willfully or negligently hosting a large amount of criminal activity on a large scale. Think massive recurring C2 operations. Having to play whack-a-mole with phishers and spammers isn't going to result in such drastic actions.

  • If you want 4 GB for $20/year…

    Where?

  • @forest said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @servury said:

    @OsirisBlack said:
    Interesting product. What business overheads and direct costs would push the markup to that extent on those bad boys vs similar spec VPS. Truly interested on the answer here.

    Was waiting to hear that question. The premium is mostly for the privacy and service you're getting in return.

    Additionally, I (the founder/dev) answer all tickets myself. You're not getting a random support agent every time you need help with your service.

    On the Pro plan, you get my cellphone number, and you can call me any time if you're having an issue. No waiting times whatsoever.

    Again on the Pro plan, I personally handle all abuse reports myself, manually. This means if you're wanting to run a Tor exit relay or something that causes frequent abuse reports, on datacenter hardware/connectivity, this is possible.

    Since your service will attract above average bad actors, what mitigations do you have in place to mitigate against DoS and legal seizures?

    I'm not sure what you mean by DoS, are you talking about inbound attacks or outbound attacks?

    Inbound.

    As for seizures, we have a warrant canary. Not only that, but a seizure would be completely useless in the first place, they'd get good old ciphertext.

    So? They seize and then first try and try to get you to provide keys and then that goes back and forth until someone says can't do and gets returned a year later.

    I recall some Shaw Cable letterhead notepad (never used!) was seized once and then it was twisted in the court papers to say the notepad was stolen and intended some sort of fraud, when it was simply left in the building when the tenant moved in and was never thrown out. It sat in the same place for like a decade untouched. Like wtf would they seize unwritten notepad paper when looking for specific records, digital and in filing cabinets totally unrelated to the search warrant? No fucking clue, but expect everything to get scooped in a seizure. So remind customers to have off-site backups!

    We currently do not have mitigations in place for inbound DoS. Though if the issue arises in the future, creating a sovereign solution for that definitely won't be a problem. Same thing if the community shows interest for it, I'll get on it and make it happen, no doubt about it.

    I have a hard time believing law enforcement would take more than an hour to figure out that any kind of seizure or bruteforcing LUKS encryption would be completely futile, but your point about everything getting scooped in a single seizure is absolutely valid, perhaps some kind of redundant backup system could alleviate the extent of the problems a seizure could cause to customers.

    Their task is to collect those things, catalog them and then they go to their experts lab's for analysis. There's nobody there technical evaluating your response to the Anton Pillar order or a search and seizure. You fight that in court.

    It's rare for the entire system to be physically seized unless it's clear that the provider is willfully or negligently hosting a large amount of criminal activity on a large scale. Think massive recurring C2 operations. Having to play whack-a-mole with phishers and spammers isn't going to result in such drastic actions.

    He doesn't have much gear at this point. It's a shared box, so they'll take the drive and maybe they start taking servers due to TPM's.

  • @forest said:
    This is awesome! I'm very happy to see a new privacy-first provider, especially one that goes farther than merely "we take crypto and don't ask for KYC". I am curious how you'll handle the influx of bad actors as others have pointed out. Do you have experience with it? I don't want the MJJs and phishers to catch you off-guard!

    Yeah, burn out from bad customers having his cell phone number is a recipe for disaster.

  • ObelousObelous Member
    edited August 23

    @TimboJones said: He doesn't have much gear at this point. It's a shared box, so they'll take the drive and maybe they start taking servers due to TPM's.

    He has a shit ton of nodes listed on his status page but it smells very fake. https://servury.com/status

    I am very suspicious.

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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited August 23

    @Obelous said:

    @TimboJones said: He doesn't have much gear at this point. It's a shared box, so they'll take the drive and maybe they start taking servers due to TPM's.

    He has a shit ton of nodes listed on his status page but it smells very fake. https://servury.com/status

    I am very suspicious.

    Lol. Yeah, I'm officially calling shenanigans.

    This is how I would target the $22k crypto bros and exit scam.

  • forestforest Member

    @Obelous said:

    @TimboJones said: He doesn't have much gear at this point. It's a shared box, so they'll take the drive and maybe they start taking servers due to TPM's.

    He has a shit ton of nodes listed on his status page but it smells very fake. https://servury.com/status

    I am very suspicious.

    Maybe he doesn't own them but just has a resller account with whoever does. That would contradict what was said in the OP, though. Hopefully it's just a matter of the status page being AI slop that's still showing some example template.

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