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Upcoming EU law -electronic evidence in criminal proceedings
I’m interested to know how non-EU provider (cloud/hosting and even domain registrars) with server locations and services for customers in the EU will handle the issue of "electronic evidence in criminal proceedings," which comes into force in the EU for all providers on August 18, 2026.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/summary/electronic-evidence-in-criminal-proceedings.html
I haven't seen any discussion about it somewhere and many non EU providers just seems to ingore it which will bring them into huge troubles as they can freeze assets, take down servers for non compliance etc.
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Sounds very exploitable as DoS
fuck the eu!
(love europe)
Not to mention that many EU member states are not even close to actually incorporating this legislation into local legislation and enforcement thereof. Apart from API spec, officially, we are still yet to receive most details with regards to this new legislation .. where the Dutch introduction is already pushed back until (at least) Q1 '27.
EU will eventually create it's own GFW through sheer policy
This is most likely to force compliance with chat control, destroying VPNs and finding more ways to fine Google, Meta and alike a few more billions.
I quickly flew over and I fail to see how this is supposed to be a mayor change. While maybe not obligated right now, usually in both countries it probably constitutes a crime. This just seem like a shortcut where you don't need to contact the us government, for example, first. Although I'm sure that this will be abused for mean things said about politicians on a website, because obviously, making fun of government officials is a horrible clown crime
What does this exactly mean? Running servers and getting a request from Germany is still a issue, right?
Totally. Chat control also exempt politicians
The issue is that a non EU hosting providers needs a legal represenation in the EU which costs a lot of money since they charge you a lot to be available 24/7 and a license for the system etc. Till now and still till August 18 authorities contacted you via abuse email address or legal email address from the provider website.
That's what politicians called as job creation
Should have said that specific directive 😄
Yeah bit odd. Now that's a perfect opportunity to offer my mailbox up for use 😄
The way I see it, the current situation will just remain to be in place.
That means that foreign law enforcement have to use the 'regular' requests for legal assistance from the other member states, regardless of whether the requesting state has implemented eEvidence or not. To my understanding, the biggest change that is now being implemented, is having a technologically more advanced way of issuing such orders.
You should not be committing a crime now, or after eEvidence implementation, regardless.
The US has laws similar to this, that is why OVH created a separate entity in the US.
that bit is a tat crazy after reading it.
How the fuck do they think thats remotely okay.
Because they can get away with crazy shit.
PSA: vote for party/individual that reject chat control
im pretty sure that part will be thrown out across the board. How the fuck would any memberstate be fine with punishing someone for something someone else did/does and they have no control over. Would certainly be something if they partake in it themselves but just like that, thats some throw back into dark times.
When you had that thought, you have become a eurosceptics.
Elected officials are supposed to represent the people who elect them, legislate for their best interest. If you're unable to recall or elect someone else with better alignment... Is it really democracy?
That's already been the case for a long time, ever since they devalued my money
Very good takes keep it coming