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Does anyone care about the OVH CDN?

jimaekjimaek Member

Globalping will soon start monitoring CDN and DNS providers with public data and rankings. So currently I am building a list of CDNs to monitor.

So far I have

Fastly
Cloudflare
AWS Cloudfront
Bunny CDN
Gcore CDN
CDN77
DigitalOcean CDN
Google Cloud CDN

Trying to get free or PAYG access to a few big ones but there are also a bunch of small ones that I'm not sure are worth the resources to monitor them, like OVH CDN.

Do you care? Any important CDNs I am missing?

Thanked by 1whynotlearn

Comments

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    Where is Akamai o.O

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    Trying to find a PAYG reseller but so far nothing. Azure had them but removed them.

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    Imperva CDN (most likely the same problem :D)
    Alibaba Cloud CDN should be easy to get.
    KeyCDN I've seen few times
    There is also cough jsDelivr cough :D

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    jsDelivr is there already :)

    KeyCDN not sure if anyone cares either
    Imperva same problem yeah
    Alibaba not sure, I wasn't planning to add the Tencent CDN instead

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • LeviLevi Member

    All CDN matters. Especially lil or niche ones. Those bog mofos are expensive.

    Thanked by 2zejjnt tux
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @jimaek said:
    ... Any important CDNs I am missing?

    IMO FlashEdge.
    Among the cheaper ones (e.g. way cheaper than Bunny), yet many (hundreds) pops globally.

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    It says "powered by AWS" makes me think they are just reselling Cloudfront

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @jimaek said:
    It says "powered by AWS" makes me think they are just reselling Cloudfront

    Yeah, maybe, I frankly didn't look deep into them but simply noticed the really good bang per buck value. Btw Cloudfront seems to have way fewer pops but cost roughly 20x more!

  • gatewaysentryllcgatewaysentryllc Member, Patron Provider

    @jimaek said:
    Globalping will soon start monitoring CDN and DNS providers with public data and rankings. So currently I am building a list of CDNs to monitor.

    So far I have

    Fastly
    Cloudflare
    AWS Cloudfront
    Bunny CDN
    Gcore CDN
    CDN77
    DigitalOcean CDN
    Google Cloud CDN
    

    Trying to get free or PAYG access to a few big ones but there are also a bunch of small ones that I'm not sure are worth the resources to monitor them, like OVH CDN.

    Do you care? Any important CDNs I am missing?

    Shoot us a DM!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jimaek said:
    Trying to find a PAYG reseller but so far nothing. Azure had them but removed them.

    can't you just use websites that are using the CDN instead of paying yourself?

  • Offtopic but I really love what you guys are building at globalping.io honestly and I wish you all the luck in the project :-D

    One question that I have because I recently made something involving globes but what do you think of having a spherical global interface optionally though as well, (like I have been building this https://buyvds.net with a global interface)

    Its a bit of eye candy though I must admit but I am just curious honestly what you might think of that.

    Good luck and have fun with the project!

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    I didn't even know OVH had a CDN service. Who uses that?

    @whynotlearn said: Offtopic but I really love what you guys are building at globalping.io honestly and I wish you all the luck in the project :-D

    Agreed.

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    @emgh said: can't you just use websites that are using the CDN instead of paying yourself?

    That wouldn't be very professional or fair to those sites

    @whynotlearn said: Offtopic but I really love what you guys are building at globalping.io honestly and I wish you all the luck in the project :-D

    Thank you!

    One question that I have because I recently made something involving globes but what do you think of having a spherical global interface optionally though as well

    It looks good, but I think the user experience is worse compared to a flat map. Espesially for technical people that want as much info available as quickly as possible.
    We also have a globe on the website, but its just eye candy like you said :)

    Thanked by 1whynotlearn
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jimaek said:

    @emgh said: can't you just use websites that are using the CDN instead of paying yourself?

    That wouldn't be very professional or fair to those sites

    Curling a small .css to get latency, TTFB etc is unethical? What CDN doesn’t have a single website on there that has any kind of API hence allowing programatic usage?

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    @emgh said: can't you just use websites that are using the CDN instead of paying yourself?

    That wouldn't be very professional or fair to those sites

    Curling a small .css to get latency, TTFB etc is unethical? What CDN doesn’t have a single website on there that has any kind of API hence allowing programatic usage?

    Every minute from thousands of locations. Plus it has to be the exact same file for comparisons across CDNs be fair

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 13

    @jimaek said:

    @emgh said: can't you just use websites that are using the CDN instead of paying yourself?

    That wouldn't be very professional or fair to those sites

    Curling a small .css to get latency, TTFB etc is unethical? What CDN doesn’t have a single website on there that has any kind of API hence allowing programatic usage?

    Every minute from thousands of locations. Plus it has to be the exact same file for comparisons across CDNs be fair

    To be fair it doesn’t have to be the same file to see TTFB and throughput. Especially if you even it out. It’s not like a PNG will be served at a higher rate than a CSS all things being equal

    But yes if you want to do every minute from thousands of locations I guess you’ll have to pay for that

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    Yeah, I wouldn't dare to use someone else file that you don't have control. It will be deleted, put some strange rules for that files or something and your whole comparison goes to hell. You even have no idea when they change settings and maybe this extra few ms of latency is not because CDN slower, but because they turned on "Under Attack" or something.

    I also agree with someone earlier - get some small CDN's too - even run 'limited' tests for them and when they score nicely in those limited tests try to expand to more to see how they compare with the big guys [if you introduce requests from rural Antarctica probe sponsored by yoursunny].

  • OhJohnOhJohn Member
    edited July 13

    @jimaek is going circles, e.g. https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/11249/monitor-uptime-and-performance-of-public-cdns (2013)

    So after you sold cdnperf, you had to wait a few years to get into that sphere again?

    @jimaek said: Any important CDNs I am missing?

    Mine, but that is not important (or only for me).

  • jimaekjimaek Member

    So after you sold cdnperf, you had to wait a few years to get into that sphere again?

    That project failed and I learned a lot. One of the reasons was it's commercial nature and closed code. Many people did not trust the data and it made no money when a lot of money was spent on it.

    I still find the space exciting and Globalping fixes many of the issues by being open source. And I think the problem of CDN comparisons is still unsolved.

    Thanked by 2oloke OhJohn
  • sillycatsillycat Member

    You could monitor Azure CDN via free Azure Static Web Apps.

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited July 13

    Monitoring cdn without paying for it is inherently bad. Because some providers limit pops, limit performance etc.for free packages.

    Buying premiums on all of them? Not gonna happen.

    Getting sponsorship? Nope, to small.

    The best bet is to open some api and let providers submit their services. But for that reputation is a must. So yes, open sourcing is the way to earn reputation.

    Good luck jin maek, this time try to not sell project.

  • edited July 13

    Cloudflare has /cdn-cgi/trace on all domains which is processed by Cloudflare and doesn't go to the origin server. If other CDNs have something similar, you could test performance by accessing that on a random domain hosted by the CDN. Or you could even just ping the CDN IP address for a layer 3 test?

    If they have a CAPTCHA, you can test performance by downloading the CAPTCHA files.

  • FubukiFubuki Member

    Does anyone care about the OVH CDN?

    no lol, cf is free

  • jahrincjahrinc Member

    Funnily enough Vultr has a CDN now.

    Quite expensive for what it is.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 13

    @JabJab said:
    Yeah, I wouldn't dare to use someone else file that you don't have control. It will be deleted, put some strange rules for that files or something and your whole comparison goes to hell. You even have no idea when they change settings and maybe this extra few ms of latency is not because CDN slower, but because they turned on "Under Attack" or something.

    Sure, this is why you’d use thousands of domains and files. Not one domain and one file

    Under attack doesn’t make it slower, it presents a JS challenge. Not even being able to detect this… idk, making code that bad would be a challenge. Wouldn’t even respond with a http status of 200

    And the same "strange rule" mindset can be applied even if you own the domains. There's thousands of unique combination of Cloudflare settings. For example, what Tiered Cache Topology would one use? What CF plan? What unique combinations of strategies for the Tiered Cache Topology with each plan? What about all unique combinations of Tiered Cache Topology + plan type + argo tunnel? And then what about the other 100 settings?

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member

    Akamai, Tencent, Alibaba, keycdn, blazingcdn, leaseweb, ovh, flashedgecdn, medianova, byteplus, BelugaCDN, cachefly, cdnvideo, edgenext, ... i want to see as many as possible. from small niche providers to global players.

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