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complicit? don't care, there are sh!t loads of people in cities like Shenzhen smuggling all kinds of stuffs, so what? what they gonna do to those people? another Meng Wanzhou? i don't think so, and who take the most profits? hard to guess ~~
propaganda? sorry, it doesn't work if you are running a country with 1.4 B people, educated people BTW, America is the most powerful country in the most of the world, it cannot manage 350 million people well. india? sorry, no comment。
therefore, from a realistic perspective, countries outside of China are not qualified to evaluate China's governance model
they make half a million dollors PER SERVER, is that good enough?
don't be a child, US is the most powerful country in the world,even in Russia, the president is the KING , of course except China, even Trump would have to raise his glass and make a toast when he comes to China。like it or not , it's the turth, i am sorry
OK, you don't care. I already knew that but OK.
Governance model. That's cute. Let me help you: Straight up dictatorship. That's the word you were looking for.
There's a lot of stuff that's very broken about a lot of countries. No person in their right mind would deny that but when some dictatorship gets on a high horse and starts preaching it's getting a little silly. Especially when grandiose claims and reality are so far from each other.
I don't think you even understood what i said. I'm a little surprised given the superior Chinese education you were privileged to have.
Well, i don't think i'll need to add anything to that prime example of mad rambling
No one cares that he doesn't care, when caught he'll get dumped into the slammer. Whether he cares about it or not.
This discussion SHOULD be closed.
LET is NOT comedy central, don't make too many jokes here
yes, from our 5000 years history book, China's most powerful periods have all been under “authoritarian rule”, or you can call it dictatorship, doesn't matter
so what? dictatorship is wrong? you care about "the people" ?
well, thanks for your concern, from what i see these years, the country and the people are both pretty fine. and just mind your own business and leave them along
Whenever I see MJJs running around this forum with English languange worse than elementary schoolers; I thought, "Most people choose English for foreign language subject when taking Gaokao. Did they choose Japanese/Russian/German/French/Spanish?".
When they're hostile, abrasive, lacking manners and verbally abusing hosting providers; It reminds me of
little emperor syndrome.So, when you assert the number of educated people is 1.4B. Then I must assume the standard must be set really low.
Could we please stop that "country X is [sth. bad like 'dictatorship]" or, even worse, "country Y is so much better than country X" nonsense?!
Among other reasons because
Besides wrt topic here it is/was Murrica sanctioning, boycotting, and terrorizing China.
TL;DR leave the Chinese alone and let them run their country as they see fit! If you want to make any country better then start with your own!
Hey, everyone. Is this the rubbish bin? Could you please stop going off-topic?
Well, i'd absolutely love to explain this to you but then i have a nagging feeling your superior education stopped a little short when it came to stuff like actual comprehension. I'm neither going to give you some kind of free philosophy lesson nor am i going to entertain your silly suggestive questions.
See, that's the problem. You make a bunch of random assumptions and blare them out like they mean anything. Am i supposed to argue with your feelings here or what exactly do you expect? Nope, it just doesn't work like that. I've been pretty clear with what i said and if that somehow goes above your head i'm awfully sorry but i'm not entering into some kind of paralympics with you.
"From what i see these years, the country and the [insert-population-of-your-choice-here] are both fine" - now debate me. Jeez, this is so stupid...
It's not even comprehensible what you are trying to say.
Edit: You are obviously perfectly free to disagree with me (that's one of the nice things in regards to free decision making) but quit acting like a drooling fucktard when you supposedly have such great education.
Oh No! He put one wrong single letter!!! A 'g' instead of an 'e' (aka typo).
I'd be very careful with introducing language like "drooling fucktard" based on a single wrong letter and just a different opinion.
Btw, how solid and error-free is your Chinese?
I suggest to cool down and to act and argue rationally!
Because "and just mind your own business and leave them alone" suddenly makes a ton of sense in that context? Please, i get that you are somehow triggered but your defense of lord turdnugget over there is quite the waste of time.
Yes, because the drooling fucktard evaluation only stems from that single letter and can't possibly have anything to with the brain damage this guy subjected me to earlier on.
It's non-existent (so in a way actually 100% error-free) but then i'm not joining any Chinese forums either. Let alone blabber on about my stereotypes as if it were some kind of wisdom. Geez, i don't even go there to ask people to help me break their laws.
Don't worry too much
I've actually skipped writing a reply to your earlier post. I mean, unlike that prime example of mad ranting, you are very much capable of a rational exchange but then you are also perfectly capable of getting to the various points yourself and i don't really care enough to go through every little detail just to execute some kind of rhetorical dance. It's just not exactly that much of a fun pass time.
If you're trying to be funny throw a few fart jokes instead, you'll have more success.
Good try but you'll have to improve you game. Sorry!
You a make me so SAD
YOU A VERY STUPID FUCKTARD, how many people told you that?
Thousands I guess. Or millions.
Yeah I am sorry too
It's the turth
the whole turth and nothing but the turth.
Now I wonder.. nah, forget it.
jsg is a big fan of making up words, but I don't know what fucking horse he just rode in on and started talking shit about Chinese. "Freedom of speech" doesn't mean freedom to make up words. (Edit: well, I guess it is... but you know what I mean)
You don't want people ripping into your piss poor "arguments".
Holy shit can we please drop the politics? I'm sorry I started this, but damn.
No, you really didn't. That guy did when instead of just stating "I'm in China and i don't care about US laws or whatever happens to a hypothetical person dumb enough to help me" he went full "I know everything about a society whose language i can hardly deal with because some guys told me and they were so incredibly wise that i'll now give attributes to it implying those would be somehow special" and gave some kind of weird lecture in regards to his idea of geopolitical power dynamics. I could give a label to the whole thing but then i don't really care enough either and that's before i even try to reconstruct what he was likely implying there.
There's also no politics in the resulting disagreement (geez, i'm putting in effort to spell this out so it won't get twisted - not by you - into yet even more nonsense...). Well, unless you want to make the observation of China being a dictatorship and him going bonkers about it into politics. That whole angle is about as disingenuous as his tries of putting up strawmen and pulling me into a rigged argument to skirt the fact that there's hardly anything he could realistically debate me on without looking 100% delusional. Just some random guy claiming superior education trying to pull the most god awful rhetorical shell game tricks possible...
I don't value shit like that and i shut it down because that's the only way to deal with it (if you entertain this garbage people will just predictably - i mean just look... - go off into a quadrillion random tangents desperately trying to score some kind of pointless win literally anywhere and it's just tiring). 0% politics involved in that. I'd actually have some sympathy for the guy if he just skipped the part where he's acting like a total tool, kept his indoctrination to himself or at the very least could look reality into the eye without trying to land a bunch of cheap shots. It's kinda hard to be sympathetic when someone devalues a whole society and throws a ton of kindergarten rhetoric trying to defend an authoritarian government or really dictatorships as a concept (if you want to make my dislike of that into politics... so be it).
From my perspective it's pretty much done. There's no coherent argument being made anyways.
The subject is political from the start, how can you drop the politics?
Do you leave the lemon out of lemonade too?
You did not start anything, stay cool.
man, you are very long-winded, your respond is just rambling,your reply is useless, at least not clear on the key points, you always avoid questions you can't answer, then reply with a bunch of flowery, piled-up nonsense, Language is for communication—as long as you understand my meaning, that's enough, grammar and such are kids' tricks, We're not taking an exam; what's the use of grammar? you're like a child, not replying with actual content, then making a pile of irrelevant stuff, Really childish
i received an excellent education, and i can confidently say it's absolutely better than yours, China implements elite education for every child, Chinese education teaches every child the truth about the world, even in China's backward areas, it clearly tells every child, China even teaches children how to stage revolutions to overthrow the government, would your government dare to teach that? would your noble lords dare? all you do is march and protest every day—what's the use? Chinese schools teach children from a young age that revolution requires bloodshed and that violence should be used to overthrow the government, you all have guns—why don't you use them? In our eyes, you are all cowards
I know you don't like China, and China doesn't like you either, It's simple—each side minds its own business, we don't tell you what to do, so don't try to dictate to us, the reality is, we're doing well and not exporting revolution to you, but you keep chirping nonstop every day, Is it because you're all monotheists, and anyone different is a heretic? we don't care about your stuff at all and don't want you to be like us, If you have the guts, just go to war, Talking smack is meaningless and wastes energy,i can clearly tell you, based on your religion, we have long prepared for war with all of you,note, not one country, but all.
sorry ,admin, if this goes too far, you can delete my post and close the thread
Last time people did that, Tiananmen Square bathed in blood.
If government isn't afraid, why self-censors, GFW, etc?
So what
Donald Trump does that too
Trump teaches everyone the truth about the world, you can find it all at https://truthsocial.com/
Stalin did it too, as did Adolf Hitler. Putin does it too.
You can easily find tons of people who will teach you the truth about the world.
Now, there's a good point. I agree, fully.
A final note: That education you advertise as excellent seems to have a fewmany parts missing.
I can source for you but 30 000 Bitcoin minimum
yes, that's what i mean, it's blood, they try to overthrow the Gov. and they failed because they are not powerful, if you are not powerful, you are not qualified to run the country. very easy to understand, right? if you have the power to defeat PLA, you are the rightful people to run the country, very simple
as for GFW, I can clearly tell you that the government has not banned VPNs or proxies so far, they could fully ban them but choose not to, you can even apply for home broadband without GFW, as long as you explain your usage to prevent espionage-like activities, foreigners' mobile data in China bypasses GFW, so they can access anything, Chinese people can legally buy foreign SIM cards and use networks without GFW, so do you think the government is really afraid of citizens accessing foreign content? It's actually to protect the market, China has domestic alternatives to major US internet companies in every field, GFW is a very good strategy, you might not understand, but it doesn't matter, Look at other places like Europe—do they still have internet companies?
The four people you mentioned are very popular in China, In particular, I'm not sure if I can say this here, but Adolf Hitler—we generally believe he is an unsuccessful Qin Shi Huang, If he had succeeded, he would be Europe's Qin Shi Huang, As for who Qin Shi Huang is, you can Google it, He is China's first emperor and holds supreme status in the hearts of Chinese people
I don't know if you can accept it, but what I said is the truth
I am quite sure that what you said is correct, I hold no illusions about China and the chinese people.
China and the Chinese are up to no good.
I am also quite sure that anyone who is both mentally sane and ethically principled will find all that very creepy.
Having so many people who lack sound moral values is truly unsettling. Some action must be taken.
YES, we think you are NO GOOD too
that's fair
and BTW, you are not "anyone who is blablabla", you cannot represent them, why you so sure the rest of the world will stand with you? in our culture, we believe only winner has moral values
action must be taken? come on, you've already taken many actions against us, don't you know? It's just because you're too weak that these so-called actions have no effect