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Do that, I am pretty sure at some point it will blow up
Fuq me, I had the option to buy a few hundred DDR4 dims in early 2025 at penys on a dollar compared to today, I said, for what the fuq to get them, they are cheap.
Me today - dumb
I think it's just greed. Remember when they try to squeeze the market on 2016-2018 bigdata boom?
Also, I would recommend reading https://trendforce.com/news
Hi,
exit running contract before next due date is a no-go.
Doing this no-go while not evening returning the cash but only giving internal credits is a double no-go!
I do understand that a contractpartner will want to change the contract when the contract duration ends ( alias start on next due date ). So maybe he will cancel the product. Maybe increase the price. Maybe changing bananas to apples. What ever.
Its the other contract's party's job to decide if the new conditions are ok for him/her.
Of course, loosing a potential 4 USD/century deal for a 256 cores/4 TB RAM/200 TB NVMe/400G unlimited server is sad and wont bring good mood.
But the customer secured this deal for X time by making a contract that goes for X. So no right to (seriously) complain. -- Same logic goes the other way around. A provider should not cry about customers leaving because they simply dont like the deal/contract anymore.
Thats called business. -- Goes for both sides.
No party is allowed to change contract conditions during contract time without permission of the other party.
If you, as provider made a deal that kills you then, well maybe you should search for another job. Or you will contact your customer and ask politely if instead of 4 USD/century maybe 400k/century could be paid so your customer can either help you ( and make sure that you wont go bankrupt which wont help your customer either ( dead companies can not provide anything ) or just let you die.
Thats it. Plain and simple.
So the only correct reaction on this behavior ( hard contract violations ) should be simply not to make any deals anymore with this company and let the world know about this issue.
Same goes, by the way, also for customers who abuse services ;-)
Very reasonable take here. The only thing I would add is that when providers do annual deals that are sold as recurring, and then raise the price substantially before the first renewal, that isn't as bad as breaking the contract, but it's still bad. Generally, I think providers should be planning at least one renewal at the initial price into their long term deals OR explicitly stating that the price will increase by X% per year.
Hi,
well looking into the future is also for providers pretty hard.
Famous examples are the ukraine war, AI and the USA-Iran war.
If you calculate your prices ( even you are doing it solid ) and the next day people tell you that your power / cooling cost in the datacenter is just 60+% higher ( we had back then in germany a jump from 2x cent to 39 cent per kwh ) then well, you are f***
So at this point also i have been going through the contracts that would result in massive loss and contacted individually every customer to search for a solution. That was the reality when the power prices exploded in germany during start of ukraine war and for selected contracts we talked with the customers and raised the pricing for up to 10% ( somehow sharing the pain, while absorbing the bigger loss in favor of the customer so that the total contract volume would at least not be hard negative.
This sad, we talk here about real business contracts -- no i dont mean the 4 USD/year ones
With the usual VPS level pricing we see here, its a totally different story.
But lets be honest and straight:
Everyone who offers a 10 USD / year server just know's that this is not sustainable IF its not located in a country where power cost nothing ( like in the USA with their <10 cent per kwh... lol wtf?! XD ) and for what ever reason you dont pay anything for IPv4 addresses, and of course also not for traffic ... bla bla forget this nonsense. 10 USD / year is even not enough if you pay exactly 0 for the service and resell it.
Your 10 USD will go through fee's for payment gateways, taxes, accounting cost / book keeping and financial reports. At the end your 10 USD are 2-4 USD ... per year.... ( assuming you have 0 chargebacks ). For this its from business perspective more effective to just sit at the street and beg for money... ( no offense for this business concept! )
So in other words: This offers are nothing else but sponsored advertisement. Instead of throwing the 500 USD into google adwords / influencers or how ever nowadays advertisement works, you will just take this 500 USD and give free 50 accounts that will run around and tell everyone how cool you are.
This is not even meant to make profit ( or cover cost ) or anything like that.
Pure advertisement. And thats fine. We did something similar back when we first participated here in this forum and back friday.
So if you as a customer expect this kind of offers to be sustainable and meant for serious business, well then... well... i lack of words expressing in a nice way that you might have missed important informations in life...
That does of course not change the fact that who ever made a deal, made a deal and should stick to it until the duration of the deal is over.
But sorry, the expectations that this kind of deals will do anything but deadpool is just like expecting a rainbow unicorn will come to you riding the pretty ladies and boys ( depending on your personal taste ) right into your arms for mutal enjoyment...
We would like to inform you that one of our server nodes is being taken out of service. Consequently, the following virtual server will be permanently discontinued in August: BF23 Aktion.
Given the significant rise in server and hosting costs, we can no longer continue operating this node under the previous terms; unfortunately, we are also unable to offer an equivalent replacement at the same price. Rather than changing the agreed-upon terms, we have decided to shut down the node. Great—no alternative or offer provided.
I’ve honestly never experienced anything like this before. Thanks.
Please don’t raise my vps prices ty
Hi,
hrhr no worry. Even the 10 EUR / year IPv6 only VPS's we had in the past are still unchanged since we joined here 4 years ago. Actually they were even upgraded from LXC containers to KVM instances.
But yes, we are also in the situation to face increased hardware purchase cost leading to a situation where we stopped selling some products.
That will continue up to situations where new contracts might have significant higher prices. Or reduced specs ( like for example 6 GB RAM instead of 8 GB RAM ) which is basically also a price increase, but might not hit as hard as charging more money.
We are still fighting and still hoping that we can somehow get around the big evil thanks to stock hardware. So i assume that within this year there will be a change. Lets see....
I just snatched 32x 64 GB DDR4 REG ECC for 200,- EUR each. Thats "only" around 2-3x higher than we bought it somewhere 2025. Luckily the colocation cost did not 2-3x ... as long as this is not the case, price increases can be limited as "just" the initial purchase is more expensive so we "just" have to wait longer before we make the first real profit. This is something that is tolerable up to a certain point where giving the money to stock market would make more sense economically....
This is why I have many vps with you