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[Request] US business-ISP tunnel to announce my own /24 (not datacenter)

I have my own ASN and a fresh, clean ARIN /24. I need to announce it via BGP
over a WireGuard/GRE tunnel from a real US business-ISP network, so it
classifies as business/ISP — not hosting/datacenter — on IPinfo/IPQS.

US. Who can do this?

Comments

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    :D

    Thanked by 1darkimmortal
  • I think you already answered your own question: A real US business-ISP. All you'll have to do is mail them. They'll love the idea and it's going to be super cheap too.

  • sillycatsillycat Member

    I believe shady providers such as Rackdog might offer what you want.

  • caskstevencasksteven Barred
    edited July 9

    Interesting

  • FourplexFourplex Member, Patron Provider

    I have a "personal" ASN announced from BuyVM (not my business) and it classifies as an ISP.

    But if you want to route it from a real transit ISP, get a cheap carrier-neutral colo and Cogent or HE.net transit. Or pay $300/mo for a 10 Mbps dedicated connection to your house/office.

  • @Fourplex said:
    I have a "personal" ASN announced from BuyVM (not my business) and it classifies as an ISP.

    But if you want to route it from a real transit ISP, get a cheap carrier-neutral colo and Cogent or HE.net transit. Or pay $300/mo for a 10 Mbps dedicated connection to your house/office.

    $150/month gets u a symetrical gbps lease

  • @LEBUserJoe said:

    @Fourplex said:
    I have a "personal" ASN announced from BuyVM (not my business) and it classifies as an ISP.

    But if you want to route it from a real transit ISP, get a cheap carrier-neutral colo and Cogent or HE.net transit. Or pay $300/mo for a 10 Mbps dedicated connection to your house/office.

    $150/month gets u a symetrical gbps lease

    @OP's proxy clients aren't going be happy with that. Even if he's the sole user that's just 4mbit per scraper/north korean spy worker. Please be realistic.

  • @totally_not_banned said:

    @LEBUserJoe said:

    @Fourplex said:
    I have a "personal" ASN announced from BuyVM (not my business) and it classifies as an ISP.

    But if you want to route it from a real transit ISP, get a cheap carrier-neutral colo and Cogent or HE.net transit. Or pay $300/mo for a 10 Mbps dedicated connection to your house/office.

    $150/month gets u a symetrical gbps lease

    @OP's proxy clients aren't going be happy with that. Even if he's the sole user that's just 4mbit per scraper/north korean spy worker. Please be realistic.

    If you let them spy, you can spy on them, u see?

  • FourplexFourplex Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 9

    @totally_not_banned said:
    @OP's proxy clients aren't going be happy with that. Even if he's the sole user that's just 4mbit per scraper/north korean spy worker. Please be realistic.

    If you want "residential" IPs you really need to use a Big Telecom ISP. You can't just survive with Cogent; you'll need to pay the AT&T tax in the US, or Rogers tax in Canada.

    If you hope your own ASN will be flagged as "residential" IT/security teams are smart enough to know you're a datacenter IP.

    Heck, out L2TP tunnels got flagged as a proxy within the first month, even if ours aren't anonymous.

    EDIT: If you really want your IPs flagged as residential, start a wireless ISP or if you're in Canada, lease Bell or Rogers lines. But then make sure your ISP is bigger than anything else.

    Or become another WeWork and make sure that's your biggest business.

  • edited July 9

    @Fourplex said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    @OP's proxy clients aren't going be happy with that. Even if he's the sole user that's just 4mbit per scraper/north korean spy worker. Please be realistic.

    If you want "residential" IPs you really need to use a Big Telecom ISP. You can't just survive with Cogent; you'll need to pay the AT&T tax in the US, or Rogers tax in Canada.

    If you hope your own ASN will be flagged as "residential" IT/security teams are smart enough to know you're a datacenter IP.

    Heck, out L2TP tunnels got flagged as a proxy within the first month, even if ours aren't anonymous.

    EDIT: If you really want your IPs flagged as residential, start a wireless ISP or if you're in Canada, lease Bell or Rogers lines. But then make sure your ISP is bigger than anything else.

    Or become another WeWork and make sure that's your biggest business.

    If i ever wanted anything in that thread it was to let it die but then it got bumped. I figure i should have swallowed my snarky comment. My bad. My interest in the topic can be summarized at about zero.

    Thanked by 1Fourplex
  • mp11mp11 Member

    ask the providers which you prefer directly, how much they charge you for their reputation, good luck.

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • I don't want to be identified as a residential IP; I only want to be labeled as a business ISP. However, I absolutely do not want to be marked as a data center, because data centers are blocked by many websites.

    The reason I need a tunnel rather than reaching out to a Tier 1 carrier myself is that I am not in the US, so I cannot enter into a contract with them. Therefore, I need a tunnel service provider.

    Can you recommend a few?

  • edited July 10

    @aysadmins said:
    I don't want to be identified as a residential IP; I only want to be labeled as a business ISP. However, I absolutely do not want to be marked as a data center, because data centers are blocked by many websites.

    Everyone knows what's the point of this whole thing. Of course no one is able to tell the final purpose but it's likely nothing overly positive.

    The reason I need a tunnel rather than reaching out to a Tier 1 carrier myself is that I am not in the US, so I cannot enter into a contract with them. Therefore, I need a tunnel service provider.

    Can you recommend a few?

    I think you already got a pointer. A few might be asking a bit much given how awkward the setup you are looking for is.

  • It looks like f4.network provides exactly the service I need, and they seem to do a great job.

    However, my budget is limited, and I only need a 1G connection

    I have no use for 10G.

    I need some cheaper service providers. Do you know of any other alternatives?

  • @aysadmins said:
    It looks like f4.network provides exactly the service I need, and they seem to do a great job.

    However, my budget is limited, and I only need a 1G connection

    I have no use for 10G.

    I need some cheaper service providers. Do you know of any other alternatives?

    silly question. Why don't you just use it in your country? Why the US?

  • mp11mp11 Member

    @aysadmins said:
    It looks like f4.network provides exactly the service I need, and they seem to do a great job.

    However, my budget is limited, and I only need a 1G connection

    I have no use for 10G.

    I need some cheaper service providers. Do you know of any other alternatives?

    they sell you a 1gbit port on a 10gbit, not a dedicated 10gbit or a 100mbit for 40 eur.

    you can use bgp communities to just use your preferred upstream arelion.

    here you go:
    https://www.perplexity.ai/search/6acfa734-a7e2-4e16-8d7f-20a41c3ca178

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    @aysadmins said: It looks like f4.network provides exactly the service I need, and they seem to do a great job.

    What exactly makes you think getting a Cogent or Arelion upstream will get you flagged as residential? 🙃

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