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Looking for a bulletproof domain to stop falsely abused complaints

YukiChanYukiChan Member

I have 30 complaints about a false mass report that people were trying to take my site down. There is no gambling, child porn, doxxing, or phishing content on my site. Just a game community. NiceNIC support wasn't going to listen to me; I've explained 2 times. Again, they still ask to take my content down.

Is there any good domain provider that can understand communication and prevent falsely mass reports?

  • NameCheap (I know SpaceShip is a parent company of NameCheap)
  • DreamHost
  • Porkbun
  • Openprovider
    Or others

Comments

  • NameCheap (I know SpaceShip is a parent company of NameCheap)

    Opposite actually, Namecheap is the parent company of Spaceship

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member
    edited 5:05PM

    Not BP, but IncogNET could work.

  • sillycatsillycat Member
    edited 5:09PM

    @x0x0x said:
    Not BP, but IncogNET could work.

    I don't think their upstreams would be ok with this situation.

    You could try Tucows (via Hover), or maybe a registrar such as Tencent (via DNSPod) could work.

    @fatchan might know more, as he has dabbled in Chinese registrars before.

  • @YukiChan said:
    I have 30 complaints about a false mass report that people were trying to take my site down. There is no gambling, child porn, doxxing, or phishing content on my site. Just a game community. NiceNIC support wasn't going to listen to me; I've explained 2 times. Again, they still ask to take my content down.

    Is there any good domain provider that can understand communication and prevent falsely mass reports?

    • NameCheap (I know SpaceShip is a parent company of NameCheap)
    • DreamHost
    • Porkbun
    • Openprovider
      Or others

    Mysterious that there is one particular item missing from the things you're not having. Might be related to copyright, who knows, am I right?

  • edited 5:24PM

    @x0x0x said:
    Not BP, but IncogNET could work.

    Are they actually accredited (at least by some) registries? If they are just acting as a proxy the complaints would likely end with whoever they are reselling, which would make it kinda pointless.

    @OP your chances in regards to finding an actually caring registrar among enduser offers are pretty slim. I vaguely remember EuroDNS being known for being somewhat supportive but this was ages ago and you might be better off trying your luck at some shithole like BizCN. Beyond that there's (outside of maybe some random unknown Asian/CIS registrar) probably just the expensive brand protection companies. http://www.ipmirror.com/ used to have quite some reputation for being take down resistant but i have no idea things developed after they've been bought up.

  • @YukiChan said:
    Is there any good domain provider that can understand communication and prevent falsely mass reports?

    Are they really "false reports" when you've repeatedly posted about running a pirate anime streaming site and a game piracy site?

  • Have you tried telling NiceNIC that the [possibly non-existent] content has been removed and seeing how they respond?

  • conceptconcept Member
    edited 5:32PM

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @x0x0x said:
    Not BP, but IncogNET could work.

    Are they actually accredited (at least by some) registries? If they are just acting as a proxy the complaints would likely end with whoever they are reselling, which would make it kinda pointless.

    Yes they are accredited.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4584448/#Comment_4584448

    Nicenic has been getting more and more strict and cleaning things up.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @YukiChan cloudflare

  • fatchanfatchan Member, Host Rep

    @sillycat said: don't think their upstreams would be ok with this situation.

    You could try Tucows (via Hover), or maybe a registrar such as Tencent (via DNSPod) could work.

    @fatchan might know more, as he has dabbled in Chinese registrars before.

    Move the domain to any registrar that isn't based in US/UK/EU, set it as a redirect to a new domain, which should be a .ST, registered directly with nic.st.

    China registrars are good because they will give you a customer service rep with phone or telegram contact (at least for eranet and alibaba) if you are a business. But they still require responding to abuse. Bigger portfolio=more lenient.

  • JasonMJasonM Member
    edited 6:12PM

    nicenic is strict. had seen many compalints of domain takdown.
    try outdomains (its HK based). or Hover (tucows), or OpenProvider in EU.
    even namesilo is better. namecheap/spaceship will take down domain.

  • edited 6:12PM

    @concept said:

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @x0x0x said:
    Not BP, but IncogNET could work.

    Are they actually accredited (at least by some) registries? If they are just acting as a proxy the complaints would likely end with whoever they are reselling, which would make it kinda pointless.

    Yes they are accredited.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4584448/#Comment_4584448

    I see. There doesn't seem to be a lot of upside though if .st can be bought directly at the NIC (at least as far as that extension is concerned). At best it's another layer of whois protection while creating an additional potential point of failure.

  • sillycatsillycat Member

    @JasonM said: try outdomain (its HK based).

    Link?

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    sorry. its ourdomains.com https://ourdomains.com/

  • Go for dynadot ( domain will be disable without any single mail ) :D

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    Damn, must be really bad if even nicenic is not having it 😅

    Anyways, since someone mentioned Chinese registrars.
    https://cnobin.com (BizCN brand)

  • @Alyx said:
    Damn, must be really bad if even nicenic is not having it 😅

    Anyways, since someone mentioned Chinese registrars.
    https://cnobin.com (BizCN brand)

    the first thing you see is that they have flash. WTF

    Thanked by 2hyperblast Alyx
  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @Alyx said:
    Damn, must be really bad if even nicenic is not having it 😅

    Anyways, since someone mentioned Chinese registrars.
    https://cnobin.com (BizCN brand)

    the first thing you see is that they have flash. WTF

    A sign of how little they care 😅

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • YukiChanYukiChan Member
    edited 9:06PM

    @CloudHopper said:
    Have you tried telling NiceNIC that the [possibly non-existent] content has been removed and seeing how they respond?

    I did that and they said thanks and closed case. I can still do transfer domain. Just need a good domain provider.

    @MallocVoidstar said:

    @YukiChan said:
    Is there any good domain provider that can understand communication and prevent falsely mass reports?

    Are they really "false reports" when you've repeatedly posted about running a pirate anime streaming site and a game piracy site?

    No, just game mods platform

    @fatchan said:

    @sillycat said: don't think their upstreams would be ok with this situation.

    You could try Tucows (via Hover), or maybe a registrar such as Tencent (via DNSPod) could work.

    @fatchan might know more, as he has dabbled in Chinese registrars before.

    Move the domain to any registrar that isn't based in US/UK/EU, set it as a redirect to a new domain, which should be a .ST, registered directly with nic.st.

    China registrars are good because they will give you a customer service rep with phone or telegram contact (at least for eranet and alibaba) if you are a business. But they still require responding to abuse. Bigger portfolio=more lenient.

    @sandoz said:
    https://r01.ru/

    Does both .st and .ru are supported at AdSense Google, and Google Search sitemap?

  • @YukiChan said:
    No, just game mods platform

    Mods regularly have a pretty high chance of containing violating material though. Anyways, if you say it isn't that then i'll probably just believe you.

    Does this support AdSense Google, and Google Search sitemap?

    Why would the registrar have to support this? They manage your domain. Your site and everything related to it isn't any of their business.

  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended
    edited 9:15PM

    When you host porn, somtimes OnlyFans girls get mad because their stuff end up on customer server. So if your not fast enough they will send to registrar and everyone and start harrassing you. Have been seeing Tickets from namecheap multiple times with us in CC.

    They will handle your stuff well

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    Internet.bs works for me.

    Really depends on the TLD. If general, fucked either way. If ccTLD, find a small local registrar.

  • blip1945blip1945 Member
    edited 9:19PM

    Does the "game mods" allowed by the the game publisher themselves? People used to or still is, calling both aimbot/general cheats for online games and something like maps and texture mods for offline elder scrolls as "mods". The former would definitely get you into trouble but not the latter.

  • krobzowkrobzow Member

    How about vsys.name? Not BP (none are), but they are probably more likely to listen and not suspend on autopilot (like NiceNic).

  • edited 10:18PM

    @blip1945 said:
    Does the "game mods" allowed by the the game publisher themselves? People used to or still is, calling both aimbot/general cheats for online games and something like maps and texture mods for offline elder scrolls as "mods". The former would definitely get you into trouble but not the latter.

    Well, a couple nastygrams (depending on publisher/developer) maybe but not really anything that holds water. There's a bunch of FUD around the topic but claims that those type of things touch the DMCA are flimsy at best. For the most part they are just theoretical EULA violations.

    On one hand because the development likely included reverse engineering parts of the target software (basically always forbidden by EULA - validity/enforcability again rather debatable and at least at some point simply void in some jurisdictions) and on the other hand when the enduser actually runs the resulting cheat (basically always forbidden by EULA). Nothing of this falls inside the responsibility of the website though (and in case of the RE part is a simple accusation backed up by nothing but plausibility).

    I figure game developers have likely argued at some point that cheats are some kind of circumvention device/security bypass but that's again just their personal opinion. I don't think any of those cases has ever made it to court let alone led to some kind of conviction. I don't follow that scene overly closely though, so i might be outdated/wrong here.

    In any case i don't see how hosting stuff like this could lead to much more than legal scare tactics. Things obviously start changing drastically once there's even a tiny snipped of disassembled/reversed code, proprietary snipped or whatever being distributed.

    Real (non-cheat) mods very often contain assets that are used without authorization though. The developers regularly don't understand that they can't use/distribute stuff they found on the internet (unless it contains some kind of license and they follow the terms of course) or use stuff from the original game as a basis for their modifications, so the results are regularly crystal clear DMCA claims just waiting to happen.

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