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Need advice on choosing DDoS protection provider

AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member
edited July 1 in Help

Hey LET,

I have 3 options currently.

  1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
  2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
  3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

Comments

  • conceptconcept Member

    Use GSL

    Thanked by 2AdiOnLET oloke
  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member

    @concept said:
    Use GSL

    I'm slightly inclined towards GSL but my provider says they cannot guarantee mitigation, and i can't understand why

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    Hey, if you want to consider other options, you can check us out at https://terabit.io, we provide DDoS in Singapore and (almost) everywhere else in the world.

    Terabit has over 500tbps of volumetric capacity and filters for all popular games at affordable prices. We use Cloudflare, GSL, DP, and many others for volumetric mitigation.

    I'm just curious why your provider said they cant guarantee mitigation on GSL? Weird

  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member

    @wadhah said:
    Hey, if you want to consider other options, you can check us out at https://terabit.io, we provide DDoS in Singapore and (almost) everywhere else in the world.

    Terabit has over 500tbps of volumetric capacity and filters for all popular games at affordable prices. We use Cloudflare, GSL, DP, and many others for volumetric mitigation.

    I'm just curious why your provider said they cant guarantee mitigation on GSL? Weird

    Yeah I actually asked for a quote in terabit but it's currently way out of my budget, but I'll definitely be using that in future.

    They say if we allow everyone to have application filters it will attract more people who are DDoSed frequently which they don't want clearly, that's why they don't guarantee anything to keep frequently attacked people away

    Thanked by 2wadhah oloke
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 1

    @wadhah said:
    Hey, if you want to consider other options, you can check us out at https://terabit.io, we provide DDoS in Singapore and (almost) everywhere else in the world.

    Terabit has over 500tbps of volumetric capacity and filters for all popular games at affordable prices. We use Cloudflare, GSL, DP, and many others for volumetric mitigation.

    I'm just curious why your provider said they cant guarantee mitigation on GSL? Weird

    Is that cup of noodle win thingy for real? I mean, I despise discord but for a good cup of noodles.... Any thing goes.

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    @AdiOnLET said: Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore

    Datapacket is not allowing to use their services for this kind of remote protection anymore.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @wadhah said:
    Hey, if you want to consider other options, you can check us out at https://terabit.io, we provide DDoS in Singapore and (almost) everywhere else in the world.

    Terabit has over 500tbps of volumetric capacity and filters for all popular games at affordable prices. We use Cloudflare, GSL, DP, and many others for volumetric mitigation.

    I'm just curious why your provider said they cant guarantee mitigation on GSL? Weird

    Yeah I actually asked for a quote in terabit but it's currently way out of my budget, but I'll definitely be using that in future.

    They say if we allow everyone to have application filters it will attract more people who are DDoSed frequently which they don't want clearly, that's why they don't guarantee anything to keep frequently attacked people away

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @wadhah said:
    Hey, if you want to consider other options, you can check us out at https://terabit.io, we provide DDoS in Singapore and (almost) everywhere else in the world.

    Terabit has over 500tbps of volumetric capacity and filters for all popular games at affordable prices. We use Cloudflare, GSL, DP, and many others for volumetric mitigation.

    I'm just curious why your provider said they cant guarantee mitigation on GSL? Weird

    Is that cup of noodle win thingy for real? I mean, I despise discord but for a good cup of noodles.... Any thing goes.

    Not really but if you join I will make it real :lol:

    I also despise discord :cry: > @AdiOnLET said:

    @wadhah said:
    Hey, if you want to consider other options, you can check us out at https://terabit.io, we provide DDoS in Singapore and (almost) everywhere else in the world.

    Terabit has over 500tbps of volumetric capacity and filters for all popular games at affordable prices. We use Cloudflare, GSL, DP, and many others for volumetric mitigation.

    I'm just curious why your provider said they cant guarantee mitigation on GSL? Weird

    Yeah I actually asked for a quote in terabit but it's currently way out of my budget, but I'll definitely be using that in future.

    They say if we allow everyone to have application filters it will attract more people who are DDoSed frequently which they don't want clearly, that's why they don't guarantee anything to keep frequently attacked people away

    That's... a different approach... is all i can safely say :lol:

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • speedypagespeedypage Member, Host Rep

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @concept said:
    Use GSL

    I'm slightly inclined towards GSL but my provider says they cannot guarantee mitigation, and i can't understand why

    No provider can guarantee an attack is mitigated, they probably are saying to you that in the event that it's not mitigated, they don't offer support to resolve it which is largely the same with other providers like Datapacket even.

    Thanked by 2AdiOnLET oloke
  • tanektanek Member, Patron Provider

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Hey LET,

    I have 3 options currently.

    1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
    2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
    3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

    I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

    What provider are you currently with?

  • @Alyx said:

    @AdiOnLET said: Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore

    Datapacket is not allowing to use their services for this kind of remote protection anymore.

    I think they're allowing it now.
    VibeGAMES B.V. (AS48925) is using AS60068 to protect game servers.

  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Hey LET,

    I have 3 options currently.

    1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
    2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
    3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

    I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

    What provider are you currently with?

    I'm currently using GSL only

  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member

    @jordan_cv1 said:

    @Alyx said:

    @AdiOnLET said: Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore

    Datapacket is not allowing to use their services for this kind of remote protection anymore.

    I think they're allowing it now.
    VibeGAMES B.V. (AS48925) is using AS60068 to protect game servers.

    Well it's not allowed, but people can use dp reseller to use dp network directly

  • tanektanek Member, Patron Provider

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Hey LET,

    I have 3 options currently.

    1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
    2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
    3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

    I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

    What provider are you currently with?

    I'm currently using GSL only

    Your hardware is hosted with them?

  • bbmmsvr4ubbmmsvr4u Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Hey LET,

    I have 3 options currently.

    1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
    2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
    3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

    I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

    What provider are you currently with?

    I'm currently using GSL only

    Your hardware is hosted with them?

    It should be webhorizon or advinservers I think, they're using GSL

    Thanked by 1AdiOnLET
  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Hey LET,

    I have 3 options currently.

    1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
    2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
    3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

    I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

    What provider are you currently with?

    I'm currently using GSL only

    Your hardware is hosted with them?

    Not with GSL, my provider uses them for transit

  • tanektanek Member, Patron Provider

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:

    @tanek said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Hey LET,

    I have 3 options currently.

    1. Get a Datapacket upstream vps and use GRE/VXLAN tunnel to protect my hypervisor in Singapore
    2. Use GSL from my upstream provider with application specific filter
    3. Use TCPSheild Sentry to protect my backend

    I'm confused as to which one should I go with. I heard dp blocks UDP completely during attacks. While GSL gives me the best latency and my provider cannot guarantee attacks are mitigated for some reason. Let me know your thoughts, thanks 👍

    What provider are you currently with?

    I'm currently using GSL only

    Your hardware is hosted with them?

    Not with GSL, my provider uses them for transit

    Ahh ok

    Thanked by 1AdiOnLET
  • SilverCreekSilverCreek Member, Patron Provider, Megathread Squad

    Just so you know:

    • GSL will over-mitigate by default if you care about UDP, as it's not always inlined

    • DP will drop all UDP for 2-3 seconds as they engage, as it's not always inlined

    • Cloudflare will seamlessly inspect since it's always inline without over-mitigating usually (CF leans towards under-mitigating)

    Thanked by 1AdiOnLET
  • DonnMoDonnMo Member

    If you want it at lowend price you can get BuyVM VPS and $3 ddos protected IP
    https://wiki.buyvm.net/doku.php/ddos

    Then just run GRE Tunnel or nginx reverse proxy according to your needs to the backend.
    Did this myself in the past, works well

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    EvoShield remote DDoS protection is available in Singapore.
    Service is delivered via GRE tunnel, or you can buy EvoShield VPS and setup tunnel yourself.

  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member

    @DonnMo said:
    If you want it at lowend price you can get BuyVM VPS and $3 ddos protected IP
    https://wiki.buyvm.net/doku.php/ddos

    Then just run GRE Tunnel or nginx reverse proxy according to your needs to the backend.
    Did this myself in the past, works well

    Is it available on Singapore?

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