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@advinservers they have additional ips for 1 usd
Thanks for the suggestion. I am looking for something cheaper than $1 per additional IP because I need to scale with multiple IPs. Do you know any providers with lower IPv4 pricing?
At Skhron additional IPv4 addresses are billed at €0.65/month
https://imgur.com/a/jdXd1Ry
Yes
It’s a bit expensive.
It is not actually.
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/206617/kvm-vps-eu-usa-free-upgrades-ipv4-64-ipv6-virtfusion-instant-setup/p1
We charge $1/mo/IP.
You running a promo in Sweden I see. Nice!
Yeah is super expensive, better to go with hetzner and pay €1.70/month for an extra IP, or royalehost and pay €1/month. If you know anything about what extra IPs cost... Skhron is one of the cheapest options out there.
Well, no. It's basically giving you the IPs at cost and a pretty good cost at that too. If you want to push the price lower you'll have to rent (large) blocks of IPs (1000s of IPs) yourself but if the sellers get any suspicion your service might dirty their IPs they'll probably have you prepay multiple months in advance or refuse to sell at all.
TL;DR: Skhron's offer is pretty good and it's kinda obvious that you have done zero research.
Bro, I mean paying €11/month for the VPS + almost $1 per IP for 10 IPs, or paying $6/month for the VPS + around $1 per IP. The VPS price also matters when scaling.
Yeah, something like a $12/y VPS hardly makes any profit (if it isn't a loss leader to begin with) even just factoring in IP costs. IP (v4) are a scarce commodity. They don't grow on trees. If you did your calculations based on $12/y VPS thinking the IPs can't be more than a couple percent of that i fear you'll have to go back to the drawing board.
You wanted a reliable provider. If you want an unreliable provider because that fits in your budget you should have said that.
That's considered cheap, like many have told you already.
Below $1 is almost non existent unless bulk /24, the industry is around €1-2.
This doesn't get the provider any profit, more like headache. This is the price because
there are less and less usable addr left with each year passing, and it becomes rare.
If it's expensive for you, IPv6 and tunnels were invented for that. IPv6s are virtually free.
I understand. In your opinion, what is the most cost-effective approach for starting a proxy service right now?
Many providers in the cheap end would not allow you to run a proxy service either, the headaches they cause with abuse reports just for a tiny amount of money is not worth it.
Get some cheap server at a provider that will announce client IP space and and rent the biggest chunk you can afford. A /24 (~254 IPs) will likely cost you between 90€/m and 120€/m (depending on seller, payment method, term length, prepayment, ...).
If you want to push the price down further at least a little you'll probably have to go for something like a /21 (8 /24s or about 2000 IPs) or bigger but like i said, chances are you'll have to prepay for some months due the sellers being worried about their IPs reputations. If they get wind of your proxy business chances are a lot of them won't want to deal with you at all.
TLDR: There isn't much you can do outside of scale, which you probably won't archive worrying about $6 on some VPS (it's not like you'll need a ton of hardware outside of maybe strong NICs for proxying to begin with). At that point you'd likely rent dedis anyways.
Then how are some proxy shops selling IPv4 shared proxies for as low as $0.30 each? How do you even start if it’s so expensive and complicated?
Basically one of those.
So does that mean starting your own proxy shop business is practically impossible, even with a budget of, say, $200?
"Budget" of $200? You can open a small VPN reseller with unlimited bandwidth.
If $200 is all you can afford, consider a banana shake street booth in Africa.
If the plan is to compete with the big dogs (as in sell for pennies) while ideally still turning a profit that's sadly likely the case. Unless you go big or resort to shady tactics it's almost impossible to go below something like $1/client/m in costs. Be it using Skhron's $0.65 IPs or by hoarding $12/y VPS deals.
The math doesn't look much better when renting a small (/24) block either. You'll ideally have to pay about $0.35 on each IP (+ likely a percentage of the yearly cost of maintaining your RIPE/ARIN/whatever membership to be able to rent blocks) and put hardware costs on top of it. Given that putting 250 clients on a single gbit link is bound to result in not exactly stellar performance (at the very least you'll need some kind of truely unmetered deal or ideally a nice chunk of traffic on a 10gbit link) those won't be exactly zero either. I'm not sure how common or uncommon it is for hosts to announce client IPs free of charge.
Your only option would be to sell a single proxy to multiple people. Once you sold the same IP to like 3-5 people you might get to a place where you are making profit. Actually that's an option for there being some extremely cheap offers i forgot. A notable amount of proxy sellers are probably doing just that.
Yes, I understand that I would need to sell one IP to multiple people. But how do you properly start this business? There are many nuances. For example, IP blocking, and while I’m building a customer base, the VPS and IP rental periods will expire, and other issues.
Thank you for helping me figure all of this out. I'm only 17 years old, and I want to start some kind of business, and I'm trying to understand everything.
Yes, and likely providers kicking you out due to your clients doing dumb shit.
Well, in theory you should be able to keep your infrastructure but practically there's going to be a lot of churn. You probably won't find some out of the box solution for that as noone likes their IPs being burnt. As i said a lot of sellers and by extension hosts will likely not even want to do business with you once they hear the word proxy.
If you want my honest opinion: You should look for opportunities elsewhere. Proxies are a pretty shady business to begin with and you'll run into tons of trouble if you don't know what you are doing. It's not like there's some kind of easy money to be made anyways (well as long as you aren't simply monetizing your botnet). Dealing with all the problems around sourcing IPs, keeping them online while staying out of personal liability for whatever nonsense users do is no simple task.
What niche could I consider for making money right now? Preferably something automated, like proxy shops.
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