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10G dedi vs 1G - can you feel the difference?
I've only had 1G dedis until now. I have a few, from Hetzner mostly, and to me 1G feels fast enough even when 2 of my workhorses average 300-400mbps.
if I ever were to go ahead and try 10G uplink server, would I feel the difference? DO YOU feel the difference? can anyone really say that switching to 10G from 1G uplink really improved things for them?
was it better for you? please, take a vote
- When I switched to 10G it was ___ than my 1G server doing same work...56 votes
- Way better42.86%
- Kinda better16.07%
- Not really different41.07%
Comments
Absolutely nothing changes
If you drive a family car and the speed limit is 120, would you feel the difference if you go
on a German autobahn without a speed limit?
isn't it a great way to answer a question with .. wait for it... a question?
I personally think all newer dedicated servers should at least come with a 10G NIC. Any that don't, and with no upgrade options, the provider is likely running old 1G rack switches. I greatly prefer companies that include a 10G NIC even if the port is limited to 1Gbps (but having 10Gbps inbound and 1Gbps outbound is even better.) Being able to easily upgrade if needed is useful. Plus the 10G NICs are just better performing under high load even with lower port speed.
I want a 800Gbit port on a C2350 so I can download my Linux iso's in a millisecond. Any deals for $7/yr?
Unless you're approaching saturation of the 1G port, it will be indistinguishable from 10G, 40G, or even 100G. If you aren't serving large files to a large number of clients simultaneously, you're never going to see any improvement.
mmmm I like the illusion of speed on my $7/year idle server
Is that because it's 10G or because it has a bigger internal buffer and thus needs to raise fewer interrupts?
I suspect that any 10G NIC is going to have a pretty big internal buffer to be able to handle 10G speeds reasonably, so with interrupt coalescing, even at 1G it's going to be able to store more internally before it's forced to do a DMA transfer and raise an interrupt. But this is just my guess. I doubt the impact would be appreciable.
no, bigger mean better.
what you said. more queues, big buffer, more pps at same bit rate, better cooling than most onboard 1g nics (referencing pcie cards.) But to most people does it matter no, the joys of having to eat DDoS attacks daily.
It impacts how fast we can move our stash during a raid
your stash of what? pirate booty coin?
Yeah, in the end if it makes any actual difference highly depends on use case, so as long as an use case adequate nic is being used it doesn't make much of a difference.
@bchot
I agree with @forest with a 'but', based on concrete experience from my colleague and friend: he had a 1 Gb/s dedi for years and upgraded to a 10 Gb/s dedi recently.
Observations and facts/context:
Both, the old and the new server were in the same location of the provider (with really decent connectivity).
1 Gb/s was and still is good enough for the server's normal purpose. But during the migration the 10 Gb/s made a significant and major difference - experienced twice.
The first time when pushing a ton of data from the old 1 Gb/s dedi to an interim storage box (same location, 10 Gb/s). And the second time when pulling from interim storage to new dedi.
So, the same ton of data once limited by 1 Gb/s and once not limited at 10 Gb/s.
And in fact I lied a bit above because that dedi also has a low prio side job serves as one of our backup servers. And that's the core of my 'but': There are about 25 (+- 5) servers pushing their backup data onto that dedi, quite a few of which are 10 Gb/s and hence now significantly faster, which at the same time also leaves more breathing room for the dedi's core task (for which 1 Gb/s is good enough).
TL;DR: forest is right. If your dedi serves only one purpose like say, a dynamic website, you won't see significant advantages (if said server rarely has a higher network load like e.g. file transfers than 1 Gb/s).
If however, and I assume I'm not alone with that situation, your dedi also has some "side tasks" which do profit from higher bandwidth, you'll see very significant differences.
All in all, personally I never paid much attention to 1 Gb/s or 10 Gb/s (i.e. outside of benchmarking) but now I do agree with @MikeA.
ok
He doesn't want to think, just be told. No learning!
If you do not have a use case where you can push >1 Gbps at all then you likely won't notice a difference.
I have 1/10 in the same DC with the same host and where the 1gbps pushes some routes at 300 the 10 pushes the same routes at 800. It is not uncommon for a 1gbps port to push well below 1gbit while a 10 port pushes more, on the same network.
Besides that, its use case dependent. My main WAN is 8gbit, so for a backup node pushing 3-4gbit obviously feels different than 900mbit on a 1gbit port. The same goes for multiple servers backing up to a 1 vs 10 port.
The autobahn question is very much on point. You WILL be faster and you WILL notice it. The question is, will you care? If you arent in a hurry for your use case, you won't. If you are, you will. I would add to that question: Will you notice driving a sportscar with 1 seat at 120kmh vs a van at 120kmh? Depends on what you need to move from A to B. If its just your own ass and no passengers/cargo..
If your workhorses do 300-400mbit average, unless thats very specific kind of traffic, you will notice 10G.
i guess you learnt me well from my other thread(s). good jobber, friend.
thanks, everyone.
i think i do wanna try 10G+ uplink server... get one for a month, see how it do, and go from there.
Isn't it kinda dumb to not understand analogy? It wasn't a question to your question,
it was a perfect analogy.
Yes
you got me. i am dumb. and i never said i didn't understand your analogy. just chill, have a good day, enjoy your own smell. if you keep calling names and assuming shit about others, you may one day realize that you simply suck.
You were unnecessarily rude to someone responding to you with a thoughtful response.
Forums don't care for unappreciative handholding useless shits. Don't expect decent responses in the future if you're going to be an asshole about it.
good job policing this shit. you're great! good job taking on the role of "forums" as well. you're just great. no, no, you're goooood police. no, no, you're really great! LAME
well, i think the next is 2 Gbps if 1 Gbps is not enough
sorry, drink too much today~~
If I was policing this shit, I'd have to be a moderator and actually take action. Until then, I'm just pointing out to an asshole why he's an asshole. And stupid, I suppose.
You clearly don't care about your name and having a bad reputation, so we don't expect you to last.
@TimboJones @luckypenguin
you said "we".. yous are funny. why would you speak for everyone? you must understand there maybe others who don't care about my argument with you and do expect me to last, right? like for example all other participants of this thread that didn't call me an "asshole"?
mind you i never called anyone names. all i did was point out that asking question to reply a question may confuse a silly person - me. you both assumed i was familiar with driving at high speed, knew what autobahn was and its difference from normal roads, understood what separates family car from other cars, realized how fast a family car could go and finally figured out what "120" actually meant.. those are all complicated concepts for a simplistic person.
and let me FILO this thread. please, don't reply. don't descend to my level. leave my questions unanswered, they are mostly rhetorical anyways. please, please, be a bigger person you think you are.
Timbo is an asshole, just ignore him. He's like this with everyone at one time or another so don't take it personally.
(emphasis mine)
That coming from a serially rude asshole is really rich.