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"Claude, rewrite Vanilla Forums in Rust...be sure to make it green"
i was literally about to write that out 20 seconds ago. then i got to page 3 on this thread. lol that was funny
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With all due respect but I find your article questionable and not up to date. Among other reasons because modern compilers and tools find many of those errors and give a warning.
That's correct, however, the coding bots still prefer rust.
So, rust it will be.
The bots greatly prefer python.
For the love of God! Where are the rust jokes?
best rust jokes are on Jody Bruchon's channel. search rust on his page and grab some popcorn. funniest shit i've watched in years 😆
The bots may run in Python but they love rust more. Humans working in AI prefer Python.
According to google's bot
That means human researchers in AI prefer Python while the bots choose rust.
Rust will supersede Python,
(emphasis mine)
Amended that for you.
First some apologetic update wrt myself: a close friend and colleague had an accident about a month ago. As we happen to quite often work together in projects (also currently) and as our projects quite often have time as a factor (if completed within planned time frame we receive a bonus) I was pretty much absent here because until a few days ago I basically had to do the work for both of us (mainly to not lose the "in time" bonus) so I had no time (and nerve) to spend time here.
Which also explains why I'm still somewhat restricted and don't elaborate a lot.
Here goes: There are language option for (what we in our field call) sensitive code, some of which are battle-hardened and have decades under the belt, to name just two, Ada and Eiffel.
But those are rarely used (outside contracts requiring them). Why?
Rust on the other hand quite quickly was taken up. Why?
There also have been and are a few "C like" options, some even expressly targeting C developers. Uptake is sĺim. Why?
To answer all three "why": It's not really about technical or engineering aspects, it's mostly about social aspects and factors. Like e.g. the woke Mozilla mental asylum (who btw. fired pretty much the core of their ITsec team), but Mozilla is admired or even beloved by "the crowd", so when they come up with or support some language "the crowd" follows, praises them, and preaches whatever happens to be their credo.
The ai cons need marketing (and propaganda and belief) and they need a nimbus of "quality" and "sakkure". Rust happens to be useful for them/that.
In the real world of sensitive projects I know of none in done in Rust, not a single one. What does exist are "blue eyed" attempts - all of which (afaik) failed.
One (probably major) reason I see with myself: I'm interested in new, "easier" tools but pretty much always when I look at one I click away within less than a minute. Because they have obvious and severe deficiencies like e.g. curly braces, unbalanced, crude, or even plainly nonsensical concepts (or even syntax), and so on.
You see, after more than a decade in the field one know what to look for and one has seen quite a few times how things evolve. Btw, one highly significant hint is "bazaar"; (the few) battle proven languages all are "cathedral".
And btw, C is not as bad and crufty as it's often portrayed, plus there are tools and dialects nowadays that do catch - or simply avoid - many if not most of the dangerous errors.
When I'm confronted with certain classes of problems like e.g. a 40+ Gb/s quasi cryptographically secure PRNG I'm going straight to C because there simply is no other (reasonable and efficient) alternative. But of course only after properly modelling and verifying my design (which pretty much completely excludes most errors before there even exists a source code file).
IMO Rust is but a trend of current times and for the crowd. In my field Rust is but a peripheral phaenomenon that either is plainly ignored or smirked at.
But hey, ai and Rust fit each other ...
I only wrote one medium project in Rust. I found using Arc/Arc::clone quite interesting but a pain. I then did it in Go (also first time) and it took a fraction of the time to do so.
And somehow now I have a Go tshirt
That AI thing is over 90% bullshit just like online content
Isn't it?
I think it is!
We're being conned!!!
I haven't watched, but I already question your sense of humour.
tl;dr Ada and Eiffel are your racist grandparents and rust is the teenage punk with colored hair, nose rings and talks about feelings.
Pretty nice tldr .
While punks are usually way to busy working towards a fatal overdose or at the very least rotting away to talk about feelings there seems to be a whole bunch of feelings involved surrounding Rust and it's kind of tiring...
I mean sure people like this fat old dude basically beg for responses with their annoying click bait attitude. I'm not sure if he considers himself an evangelist but pulling in that term already says pretty much all there is to know. I don't understand how people would voluntarily self describe as something like that when it basically translates to: Insufferable zealot not worth listening to.
As long as the goal isn't straight up trolling everyone (no matter the faction) should be aware that when you suddenly get the urge to rant/praise/destroy/whatever chances are that you've just taken the bait. The comparison to religion is sadly often times quite warranted only that in the end programming languages simply aren't religions (pretty much like they aren't social movements) and treating them like they were is stupid.
Sure, every person has their favorites and their dislikes. Chances are you'll recommend this or criticize that at some point. This is normal but once you start to feel like you need to preach to the non believers... please go look for some purpose in life (or some job that creates actual value - polarization might inflate view counts but it sure isn't value).
No, it rather indicates a superficial approach and deep intellectual poverty, sorry.
If categorizing ("grandparents") then that would be one of the Algols and throwing in "racist" strongly suggests that a woke teenage punk with colored hair and nose rings is vomiting words, highly likely in order to be perceived as cool and belonging to the blathering idiot herd.
Meanwhile in reality certain languages - not including Rust - are nonconditionally required in sensitive areas; you want your railway stuff (locomotives, signalling systems, etc) accepted? Then do it in Ada (plus some formal steps like formally verified design, modelling, etc.). Same with air traffic control, same with nuclear power systems, etc.
Btw. as far as I personally am concerned, I would not automatically reject a teenage punk with colored hair, and nose rings but I'd expect him/her with high likelihood to offer a shoddy approach not really properly thought through. Something like Rust.
https://hackaday.com/2025/11/20/how-one-uncaught-rust-exception-took-out-cloudflare/
Now you're hurting my fee-fees.
EDIT: You sure sound like a dam hate motivated racist yourself baselessly brandishing racism accusations against anyone/anything for no respectable reason.
The only Rust I know:
There aren't any jokes, and that's a joke in itself!
In Rust, failure is never an Option, it is a Result. Why did you fail to get your desired Result? Because the compiler forced you to handle every other possible outcome first.
That happens because while in rust failure is never an Option but it is a Result, doing nothing is always an Option, and here lies its main difference to C where doing nothing is not always an Option while failure is always an Option.
I'm not sure if this is funny or qualifies as a joke but I find it funny. And fully correct
For low level systems programming I lean towards zig - a bit more performant than Rust with more memory control (can also compile c/c++)