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User has to sign submit to PayPal subscription billing, if they abuse they get charged fee of $100.
I would honestly not go down this route, there's a lot of liability on the operators now.
A Rogue operator/operator gets hacked/etc, tons of paypal accounts get drained
Kind of. Depending on the location of the user crypto might or might not be easy to acquire.
Thats true. Atleast blocking port 25 is set it and forget it situation. But correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't the DC usually have to be involved to block port 25 on a IP?
Crypto price fluctuates, so not really...
Has limited adoption, not the most flexible measure. Some avoid cryptocurrencies purposefully.
and... the ones who have crypto are easily the anonymous or private ones
I don't see what prevents @msatt from implementing stateless ACL using e.g. libvirt measures per VPS to drop all outgoing TCP SYN with 25/tcp destination port and all incoming TCP SYN/ACK with 25/tcp source port.
I think @slowservers (sporestack guy if I remember correctly) has $100 cryptocurrency initial payment requirement. He operates one of the most No-KYC (even no email address is collected) VPS service, so it should be actually a solid anti abuse measure.
Not really. Various networking setups aside as far as VPS are concerned the packets have to pass the external interface of the node in one way or another, so dropping them should always be an option.
Erm, would you please elaborate or provide detailed step by step instruction or a link to a documentation on how to do it?
https://libvirt.org/firewall.html
Won't do a step by step guide though, not an easy task to do from a mobile
Giftcards beside crypto. From local store, not online.
I am not much into libvirt but on a general level even just iptables already gives you a ton of flexibility. Especially in combination with source based routing. You can pretty much have custom rules based on anything from src/dst to uid/gid creating your local packet.
I used to have a local setup where depending on which user an application ran under traffic would go through different VPNs (including different DNS servers even though this is set system wide by resolv.conf). iptables is a marvelous thing
It's really easy. There was a time where localbitcoin is the easiest way to get crypto.
Idk, just set it to deposit 0.0001BTC or 100 USDT/USDC. That works with @NameCrane @Francisco lifetime mail service
Thanks everyone for the comments
As suggested the problem has always been NodeSeek clients. They were allowed because that is what Tom (Not_Oles) allowed when I took things over. I have absolutely no interest in NS and I will give those users notice of termination (sorry - I appreciate not everyone is an abuser).
FOSSVPS uses Proxmox so I should be able to block email ports incoming and outgoing.
I will not get involved in any money, crypto or other.
The registration process is manual and proper checks are made. I appreciate (unfortunately) what @somik says about trash email, website etc.
I think that publishing KYC if abused is the way to go but open to other suggestions (keep the coming).
1 BTC is now $80k Pedo Freedom Dollars?!?
I remember when it was 1 BTC to $1,000 and people were losing their minds
Thank you for not going Nuclear (KYC)
That being said, kicking everyone cause they are associated with a single poisoned apple is not fair, but understandable in this situation. Afterall, if the server is lost every client from all forums will lose access...
Money is a great hedging tools.
Anyway, I checked https://fossvps.org and can't find the devs&gits who received vps grants through fossvps
Yes. And the memes lol
Depends on the definition of easy, i guess. For me localbitcoin would probably come down to getting some kind of steam gift code (even if its not just people wanting >=50€ thats 20€ on a free service) and trying to exchange it with some shady guy at a shitty rate and hope that he doesn't just take my code and tells me to fuck off. At least from my perspective that doesn't seem like much of a great experience.
Actually that is an interesting idea - publish everyone that benefits from fossvps, but then we are back to privacy.
That's not localbitcoin experience. The local experience is both of you take time off (half day)/lunch hour and meet at a bank (of the buyer). Seller should be present when the money is withdrawn from human teller. Then the seller sent the bitcoin to your wallet. Then, when the btc arrived, you gave the money to seller.
You don't have to disclose the account handle. As long as we know who benefitted, that's accountability to your donors (including yourself) and the public (community)
Well, i am sure that exists somewhere but that somewhere is not anywhere close to me. I doubt there is even any banks around here that would be dealing with crypto (outside of the straight up investment side of things) to begin with. Its pretty much gift code or bust (outside the big online gigs with KYC and all of course) and i figure there's probably more countries like this. Just as there are more countries where things work nice and smooth (if i'd hop over the border i could just be putting fiat into a vending machine to get a code redeemable in crypto but thats a couple 100 kilometers southwards).
I remember doing something similar to that when I was living in a third world country where paypal, credit cards, and online transactions were banned. I used to meet the seller, ask him to buy something for me online, and pay him on the spot after he used his paypal to purchase the thing for me + the handling fee. Fun days!
The bank aren't involved to begin with, but the security will definitely intervened if things went south in their establishment.
Surely the seller won't come if it's only $100 worth of btc. They'd tell you to use escrow.
Judging from your reply, I'd take you as Canadian
It's certainly fun. Remember where there's local FB groups selling stuff instead of marketplace filled with people who would DM your inbox even when it's sold out/already bought(wtb)? Missed it so much
Emails will be going out soon to everyone advising of the new abuse policy. I have drafted the email but leaving it for 24 hours (at least) so any emotional reaction is removed.
If clients don't agree to the policy, their VPS and all data will be destroyed. Clients will have to notify us by the end of the month otherwise I will assume acceptance.
No, i am in Europe. I admit that i didn't really investigate localbitcoin all that deeply but i vaguely remember that at some point offering private exchange services was simply declared illegal (due to lack of some fancy financial license or whatever nonsense...), which might explain the total lack of reasonable offers around here.
I didn't see in the thread what the new abuse policy was (just curious, not a client). Anyway now you know some things to tighten up, treat it as a lesson and keep on trucking.
Re NodeSeek, totally understandable to stop serving their community but kinda harsh kicking off current members in good(?) standing.
Glad to see it worked out with the host in any case.
edit: I don't see an abuse policy (new or old) at all on the website btw.
The only policies WERE what is stated in every joining thread.
There is no abuse policy on the website (or link to join). All is done through the forums.
The policy will be that everyone agrees that if abuse occurs we WILL / CAN publish clients details. If a client does not agree they notify us and we delete the VPS and all data.
I agree that it is unfair for 'good(?) standing' NS clients, but I do not feel FOSSVPS or the donors should take the risk
If someone is a member of NS they are there for a reason and I do not feel the reason matches FOSSVPS ethics.