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Cloud with rotating IP address

tentortentor Member, Host Rep

I am looking into getting VPS at some big names cloud (or anyone else who have really a lot of IP addresses - I don't care owned or not) to deploy tarpit, but I plan to rotate IP address at least daily (better if hourly). IP addresses must be unique, at least different /24s.

You may wonder why I specifically ask rotating - the goal is to collect as much unbiased traffic as possible - therefore moving my tarpit is a hard requirement, to prevent it from being marked by scanners as such (at least I suspect it does).

I already tried Hetzner, but it seems like I am rotating same IP addresses in a loop - probably they made it so purposefully. Therefore I am asking if anyone here knows for sure if e.g. AWS (or any another cloud) will fit. I could've tested all myself but I would like to avoid doing so blindly.

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Comments

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited May 5

    You can try with GCP ephemeral IPs, you'll rotate to a different IP each time you reboot. Not 100% sure if you'll get into a different /24 but I believe you will considering the scale of GCP. Similar with AWS.
    With GCP you have a fully free compute instance in a few of their regions

    @HostVDS_com has static IPs but they used to let you change your IP to a different block if you're savy enough with OpenStack. I believe they still do but I haven't tried in a while. They do not have the same scale as AWS or GCP though.

    With Hetzner you can likely trick it with spinning up an additional VM and assigning the old IP to it. Will cost you a few cents each deploy

    Thanked by 2whynotlearn tentor
  • gatewaysentryllcgatewaysentryllc Member, Patron Provider

    I would recommend using a socks5 proxy provider and or a VPN provider such as NordVPN or even Surfshark (wireguard configuration & port forwarding is allowed)

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We’d recommend claiming your own Class E /12 so that you can use any IP address within your range.

    Thanked by 3sillycat 384_cz Ed_Chd
  • remyremy Member
    edited May 6

    What is the end goal? If you don’t mind answering
    Just curious

    Im not sure you can achieve that with any popular cloud provider, since they all have safeguards that limit how many different IP addresses you can use to prevent abuse.

  • conceptconcept Member

    I think the best way to use multiple different providers and use something like Terraform to deploy instances across all of them and across different regions because regions have a limited pool.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    I get the impression I could do this with Oracle ephemeral IP's and likely can script the IP change automatically with oci cli.

    Got any free Oracle VPS?

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @remy said:
    What is the end goal? If you don’t mind answering
    Just curious

    The goal is to validate hypothesis whether scanners actually detect my tarpits and are trying to evade it.

    @yoursunny said:
    We’d recommend claiming your own Class E /12 so that you can use any IP address within your range.

    Getting any block myself is not an option for two reasons:

    1. It will be linked to a network already known to be running tarpits
    2. It is a continuous address space

    @TimboJones said:
    Got any free Oracle VPS?

    Unfortunately, no.

    Thanks for all suggestions here, will have a closer look into suggested options.

    Thanked by 1remy
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @tentor said:
    Unfortunately, no.
    Thanks for all suggestions here, will have a closer look into suggested options.

    scw. Use their cli tools to manually stop, remove IPv4, add ipv4, then reboot. Give or take, 10-15 minutes down time

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