Where to get shared hosting (USA): "Never use LET services for production"

Turbo_Pascal · May 4

Never use LET providers for production purposes.

I've seen this warning at least a couple times. Where should one look for shared web hosting (in the United States) when a business depends on it?

Arirang · May 4

Never use a shared web hosting for production.

Turbo_Pascal · May 4

Is a "crate" at NameCrane enough to satisfy your suggestion? It appears to be an upgrade over their shared offerings.

@Arirang said:
Never use a shared web hosting for production.

totally_not_banned · May 4

I wouldn't take that warning overly serious. Its a well meaning effort to stop people who don't know any better from trying to build their multinational business empire on a $3/y service launched last month by dogshedhost.club just to suddenly start losing millions when the guy running it goes back to school, gets overwhelmed since he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing, loses interest and exit scams or gets hit by the realization that unsustainable deals are unsustainable but in the end advertising or even just being active on LET doesn't render a host bad or unreliable or whatever.

There is a good number of hosts around here that very well stood the test of time (hell, even if just technically these days, Hetzner is active on LET...). Its just a question of knowing how to (and actually doing...) some due diligence. If that seems like a daunting task its probably better to stick with some tried and true option.

lovelyserver · May 4

A lot of trustful providers can be found on LET. Of course some are tricky or others just for testing some things or for fun. But we do have some excellent providers, good for productions.

Tip: have a look on the annual top providers. I'm sure you can find something reliable there.

KeqingWangy · May 4

I use NameCrane for production, and the results are very satisfying. For my VPS, I have AxusHost BF VPS, and its uptime has been excellent. It hasn't been down for at least six months. Its disk performance is quite good, at least enough for a low-to-mid-range website.

nick_ · May 4

I can recommend ExtraVM shared hosting. Their shared hosting uptime has surpassed all of my VPSes.

concept · May 4

There are some good options that come to mind
ExtraVM @MikeA
NameCrane @Francisco
@advinservers

EthernetServers · May 4

A lot of LET hosts take massive pride over their products and deliver excellent service, you just need to pick carefully and take the time to research them and ask any questions that come to mind before signing up.

Having regular off-site backups, no matter who the provider is (LET host or otherwise) is very much advisable as well.

Levi · May 4

No one was fired by using big 3 players

host_c · May 4

@Turbo_Pascal

There are some here that have serious toys and infra, as others had sad, you just need to filter your search.

Google, AWS, MSFT have more bad days in a year then the top 10 here combined.

For those that live from what they sell, you will get a better partnership then the Elite above, as they're life depends on their infra and customers.

Also, backups are a key to success, whatever Route you choose to DstNAT .

MagdAlmuntaser · May 4

There are big companies here with their own verified datacenters.
And there are also providers acting as resellers, they rent servers from those big companies and sell you cheap VPS plans.
You can easily check that by looking up the IP to see the main upstream provider.

Having your production site with a provider from LET doesn’t mean you’re at risk.
The real problem is not keeping external backups of your site, whether you host here or even with bigger companies like Hetzner.

Personally, I avoid putting production sites on VPS (like $7/year).
I only use them to complete my collection in my (vps.txt) file.
My dedicated servers are with main providers (not resellers), and I run 3 servers in different countries for daily backups.

For your information, about 4 years ago I was on one of Contabo servers, and there was an outage in one of their datacenters.
My server was affected, and I lost all the files. So incidents aren’t limited to providers on LET.

FairShare · May 4

@Turbo_Pascal said:

Never use LET providers for production purposes.

I've seen this warning at least a couple times. Where should one look for shared web hosting (in the United States) when a business depends on it?

Here are your options budget wise . ALL of these are good and personally tried .

Cheapest - @labze Hostbrr - Budget
HawkHost - Middle Ground .
SpeedyPage @speedypage - Premium
MDDHosting - UltraPremium

Shameless plug : Affiliate links in the signature.

Turbo_Pascal · May 5

@concept said: NameCrane

Has anyone looked into whether NameCrane allows an upgrade path from shared to crate if and when the need arises?

Skelter · May 5

The saying is old: "you get what you pay for".

The best services here do cost more, there's a reason some sell at half the price.

mwt · May 5

@Turbo_Pascal said:

@concept said: NameCrane

Has anyone looked into whether NameCrane allows an upgrade path from shared to crate if and when the need arises?

It's definitely an upgrade option in the panel

MikeA · May 5

Lot of reliable standard web hosting options that are perfectly fine for business. A lot of small businesses just don't use standard web hosting because they want site builders and don't have experience with running a website. Best bet is to send companies a sales email and ask questions to get a feel about their support, response times, personable demeanor, etc.

mwt · May 5

If you're running a website on shared hosting, there are lots of good providers on here.

You just want to have nightly off-site backups. I save them to backblaze b2.

I use zbackup for deduplication, but I'd just not do any deduplication for your first few years.

slowservers · May 5

Are you hosting a static site or something dynamic?

Mahedi · May 5

@FairShare said:

@Turbo_Pascal said:

Never use LET providers for production purposes.

I've seen this warning at least a couple times. Where should one look for shared web hosting (in the United States) when a business depends on it?

Here are your options budget wise . ALL of these are good and personally tried .

Cheapest - @labze Hostbrr - Budget

HawkHost - Middle Ground .

SpeedyPage @speedypage - Premium

MDDHosting - UltraPremium

Shameless plug : Affiliate links in the signature.

Speedypage wipe out my production server but they provide nice server,
so good luck

bbmmsvr4u · May 5

NameCrane is pretty good, I use them myself..

Calypso · May 5

I've seen LET providers doing an awesome job and proving to be very stable and performant. I've seen highly regarded providers that you pay big bucks for being unstable as hell.

So you can't generally tell that you shouldn't use LET providers for production. It's a matter of competence of the provider with a portion of luck.

My opinion is when you take a few LET providers, and create a load-balancing solution for your purpose you'll get great uptimes and performance and that combined is often still cheaper and more resilient as getting a solution from a reputable provider.

nikio · May 5

The admonition

@Turbo_Pascal said: Never use LET providers for production purposes.

...is more about your attitude to the provider, not the provider himself. If you fuck around enough, you can run into issues with MSFT/AWS/GCP as well. Try not paying bills, buying the cheapest plan and trying to run your $$$$$$$$ business off of it, etc.

But I do agree: don't use Shared Hosting for production. There should be an age limit on shared hosting: you should get kicked off of it as soon as you turn 16.

barbarza · May 5

@totally_not_banned said:
I wouldn't take that warning overly serious. Its a well meaning effort to stop people who don't know any better from trying to build their multinational business empire on a $3/y service launched last month by dogshedhost.club just to suddenly start losing millions when the guy running it goes back to school, gets overwhelmed since he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing, loses interest and exit scams or gets hit by the realization that unsustainable deals are unsustainable but in the end advertising or even just being active on LET doesn't render a host bad or unreliable or whatever.

There is a good number of hosts around here that very well stood the test of time (hell, even if just technically these days, Hetzner is active on LET...). Its just a question of knowing how to (and actually doing...) some due diligence. If that seems like a daunting task its probably better to stick with some tried and true option.

I'm building my empire on my $1/year VPS from BeanShedSummerHost thanks to @beanman109

stable_genius · May 5

@Skelter said:
The saying is old: "you get what you pay for".

The best services here do cost more, there's a reason some sell at half the price.

That may be true in LET but in general that's JUST NOT TRUE! The vast majority people get less than what they paid for, much less in most cases.

And in rare occasions some lucky people get more than what they paid for, REPEATEDLY. Those people are not lucky by accident.

swat4 · May 5

Apart from the providers mentioned above, you may also want to try @TNAHosting, who is equally solid

rpqu · May 5

@stable_genius said:

@Skelter said:
The saying is old: "you get what you pay for".

The best services here do cost more, there's a reason some sell at half the price.

That may be true in LET but in general that's JUST NOT TRUE! The vast majority people get less than what they paid for, much less in most cases.

And in rare occasions some lucky people get more than what they paid for, REPEATEDLY. Those people are not lucky by accident.

Higher quality -> Higher prices
But, brand name inversely correlated to price/performance

dbadude · May 5

production on shared LET servers is yolo

Andreix · May 5

@Turbo_Pascal said:

Never use LET providers for production purposes.

I've seen this warning at least a couple times. Where should one look for shared web hosting (in the United States) when a business depends on it?

https://www.serverspan.com/en/freehosting

No risk.
Depending on multiple factors, KYC may be required, but not enforced by default.

behuk · May 5

@Turbo_Pascal said:

Never use LET providers for production purposes.

I've seen this warning at least a couple times. Where should one look for shared web hosting (in the United States) when a business depends on it?

I think this is a little unfair on LET providers. All providers can suffer from issues, causing services to fail. The "proper" solution to this problem is to have a well tested disaster recovery plan which allows you to migrate business critical services to a completely independent provider. You could even e.g. run multiple providers in some sort of active-active configuration so that you don't need to do so much when a service fails.

Skelter · May 6

@stable_genius said:

@Skelter said:
The saying is old: "you get what you pay for".

The best services here do cost more, there's a reason some sell at half the price.

That may be true in LET but in general that's JUST NOT TRUE! The vast majority people get less than what they paid for, much less in most cases.

And in rare occasions some lucky people get more than what they paid for, REPEATEDLY. Those people are not lucky by accident.

I utterly disagree and I do think you're wrong, the vast majority get what they pay for.

The vast, vast majority buy the cheapest possible and then get picachu faced when a $7/year VPS has constant issues.

I learned to pay more if I want assurance (No, not only paying more, but learning about the company in general, it so happens that the best candidates simply aren't dirt cheap, they cost twice the price for the same service on cheap providers)

This doesn't make it not your responsibility to keep backups and have redundancy when possible if a service is vital, because even the best sometimes screw up.

Edit: heck, some providers here don't even use an excel spreadsheet to understand that they're not profitable going so low on prices...

And yes i do buy those cheap ass chicken, but i know what I'm buying

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