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Looking for GRE tunnel / DDoS protection for game hosting in SEA

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  • @tentor said:

    @unsafetypin said:

    @MikeA said:

    @skimply153 said:
    also tagging @MikeA

    Tunneling for the sole purpose of being a low-cost DDoS shield for non-protected networks isn't allowed on my stuff. He needs a company that caters to that really.

    Even for personal game servers? I didn't realize this may be against TOS. Is it more of a like, it's rude to front your own expensive compute resources with someone elses bandwidth using a small VM kind of deal? For example my physical gameserver hosts are in my own rack in my garage.

    Mike as any other provider profits from servers (compute), and DDoS protection is only a neat addon. (Ab)using protected network while not paying fair share of bills while being targeted isn't a desired clientele.

    No I just never thought of this as long as I stay within monthly transfer limits. I wouldn't want to get blacklisted as a customer for using any provider like this but thought it was more common to front self-hosted services with a VPS for their better access to large networks and superior routing.

  • @MikeA said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Oh okay then, Given my situation, is there anything you're able to offer ? It would be really appreciated if you can provide something untill I can find something permanent

    Not really. If you're familiar with setting up GRE and all that yourself then you can get a server and try, but I don't have custom filtering for game serves either way, so if they're small attacks mimicking real game traffic I probably couldn't help anyway.

    @unsafetypin I don't care if people are using it for what you mention. Plenty of people run personal VPNs which is basically the same.

    Just to clarify, the attacks are plain TCP SYN floods, not anything mimicking actual game traffic. Pretty straightforward volumetric stuff, nothing L7. Does that change anything?

  • @MikeA said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Oh okay then, Given my situation, is there anything you're able to offer ? It would be really appreciated if you can provide something untill I can find something permanent

    Not really. If you're familiar with setting up GRE and all that yourself then you can get a server and try, but I don't have custom filtering for game serves either way, so if they're small attacks mimicking real game traffic I probably couldn't help anyway.

    @unsafetypin I don't care if people are using it for what you mention. Plenty of people run personal VPNs which is basically the same.

    Another thing for me is that my ISP doesn't offer IPv6, so I lease a /48 from FRC and a very wonderful LET provider announces it. I then use a VPS with that provider to route the /48 home over WireGuard using IPv4, then I get to have IPv6 at home without a janky tunnelbroker service. This is a total separate usecase, but one I get a ton of value from.

    BTW thanks for your answers. I have some curiosity because I don't operate a business and I want to understand better rather than end up being a POS without realizing it.

  • Guys what about https://terabit.io/ddos-protection are they known?

  • unsafetypinunsafetypin Member
    edited April 21

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Guys what about https://terabit.io/ddos-protection are they known?

    IDK but if you can tolerate the Netherlands as the location then @RoyaleHosting may be good for you -- https://royalehosting.net/cart/configure/18 ddos protection is included also with their VPS and they do specialize in gameserver ordeals

    https://royalehosting.net/ddos-protection

    it's basically their niche

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • AdiOnLETAdiOnLET Member
    edited April 23

    @MikeA said:

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Oh okay then, Given my situation, is there anything you're able to offer ? It would be really appreciated if you can provide something untill I can find something permanent

    Not really. If you're familiar with setting up GRE and all that yourself then you can get a server and try, but I don't have custom filtering for game serves either way, so if they're small attacks mimicking real game traffic I probably couldn't help anyway.

    @unsafetypin I don't care if people are using it for what you mention. Plenty of people run personal VPNs which is basically the same.

    Is it possible for you to help me with some GRE or VXLAN tunnel for my game server vps? Its just a request since I don't know much about that plus making it work with my pterodactyl setup

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 23

    @AdiOnLET said:

    Not really. If you're familiar with setting up GRE and all that yourself then you can get a server and try, but I don't have custom filtering for game serves either way, so if they're small attacks mimicking real game traffic I probably couldn't help anyway.

    Is it possible for you to help me with some GRE or VXLAN tunnel for my game server vps? Its just a request since I don't know much about that plus making it work with my pterodactyl setup

    Rather not sorry, wouldn't want to touch someone's servers hosted elsewhere and mess with the network/firewall setup. Too much liability, and I don't recommend people use tunnels anyway since it's another point of failure. Best bet is to use an AI tool to give you steps on how to setup a GRE between two servers, but since you're changing the OS networking things can go wrong so you need dedicated remote access/IPMI/VNC for your server.

    What actual game server is it? Does the game use TCP traffic only or UDP?

  • @MikeA said:

    @AdiOnLET said:

    Not really. If you're familiar with setting up GRE and all that yourself then you can get a server and try, but I don't have custom filtering for game serves either way, so if they're small attacks mimicking real game traffic I probably couldn't help anyway.

    Is it possible for you to help me with some GRE or VXLAN tunnel for my game server vps? Its just a request since I don't know much about that plus making it work with my pterodactyl setup

    Rather not sorry, wouldn't want to touch someone's servers hosted elsewhere and mess with the network/firewall setup. Too much liability, and I don't recommend people use tunnels anyway since it's another point of failure. Best bet is to use an AI tool to give you steps on how to setup a GRE between two servers, but since you're changing the OS networking things can go wrong so you need dedicated remote access/IPMI/VNC for your server.

    What actual game server is it? Does the game use TCP traffic only or UDP?

    So it's not a single game server but combination of multiple game servers using both TCP + UDP traffic, It's a shared vps on which I've hosted my pterodactyl wings. I can use seperate TCP and UDP ports if required to

  • Also are there any reliable guide or docs which can help me setup VXLAN or GRE tunnel myself which will work properly. Thanks again

  • Someone who's an expert in this and can setup a VXLAN or GRE Tunnel and make it work completely fine with my pterodactyl setup?

  • SilverCreekSilverCreek Member, Patron Provider, Megathread Squad

    @AdiOnLET said:
    Guys what about https://terabit.io/ddos-protection are they known?

    That's us. I'd be happy to chat about our solution with you if that interests you. We do have presence in Singapore and Japan, with presence in South Korea coming soon, and we have a fully custom, automated portal that can provision GRE tunnels, setup BGP sessions and manually manage announcements. A ton of baked in features include real-time attack alerts via Webhooks (Slack, Discord, Generic), in-depth after-attack reporting including top sources, ASNs, countries and much more.

    All our IPs are routed through Cloudflare Magic Transit with up to 500 Tbps of capacity and an additional 13.1Tbps of stateful mitigation capacity on our end.

    We currently host some of the top game servers, and our mitigation suite is used whitelabel/on-premise with dozens of hosts across the world, from the US to Europe to Asia and Oceania.

    Feel free to shoot me a DM with your email or discord user ID and we can give you a free trial, no sign-up required. We'll route you an IP, and you can feel the power of our mitigation, free for 2 weeks.

    Thanked by 1skimply153
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