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How does AI affect your work?

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  • tuğbatuğba Member

    @Arirang said:
    As a developer, I now spend far less time coding directly. In fact, it has been quite a while since I last even opened my IDE. My focus has shifted toward thinking more strategically about how to create better products. Ultimately, I believe we are moving toward a future where a single person can own small features end-to-end, from planning and development to QA.

    I agree with you, that's the essence and summary of the matter.

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  • @Levi said: Feel depressed overall

    This is a long standing problem overall. People are too lazy to deal with it, suffering is easier.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @Levi said: Feel depressed overall

    This is a long standing problem overall. People are too lazy to deal with it, suffering is easier.

    How do you deal with it? Except medication. I’am heavily medicated all the time.

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  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited April 12

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @Levi said: Feel depressed overall

    This is a long standing problem overall. People are too lazy to deal with it, suffering is easier.

    Blaming the victim is a lot easier than to deal with the problem too. It is also truly weak, not very courageous.

  • As most of the other comments, AI is a "must", tracked with KPIs and forced into oblivion. It is both the cause and the solution. Badly started projects due to AI which need it to continue development such as giant monorepos you are expected to understand in less than a day. You either use it or bust.

    It's draining creativity and "art" as much have said but since your "time budget" is aligned with you using it, you need to bend over or you won't eat the following month. If it was only jobs or tech I wouldn't mind it that much, but the braindead "work for the machine" mentality is permeating into other aspects of life... People lost their motivation and enthusiasm for learning.

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  • @Levi said: How do you deal with it?

    Talk therapy.

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited April 12

    We have already entered the Era of Code Decline because AI is poisoning the well by killing new code contributions. Thanks to AI the code base most people will be using is one that has been frozen before 2026.

    Open Source is being killed by AI, from now on new quality code will be found primarily in closed source projects not in open source. Open Source is dead.

    Thanked by 1cxg
  • uhuuhu Member

    I wouldn't say "open source is dead", but instead say "trust nothing". GitHub is now full of slop with thousands of stars, while the good stuff continues to get the occasional PR and one new star a month.

    Thanked by 1suyadi92
  • AI is poisoning the well > @uhu said:

    I wouldn't say "open source is dead", but instead say "trust nothing". GitHub is now full of slop with thousands of stars, while the good stuff continues to get the occasional PR and one new star a month.

    GitHub is now a cesspit with some hidden treasures in it, unfortunately github makes it hard to get the treasures from the sludge.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @stable_genius said:
    AI is poisoning the well > @uhu said:

    I wouldn't say "open source is dead", but instead say "trust nothing". GitHub is now full of slop with thousands of stars, while the good stuff continues to get the occasional PR and one new star a month.

    GitHub is now a cesspit with some hidden treasures in it, unfortunately github makes it hard to get the treasures from the sludge.

    Information has long since turned into white noise. To avoid getting infected with all sorts of crap, you need to use very reliable filters.

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  • matze00matze00 Member

    I work in retail in customer service. I take care of defective products that have been returned by customers. we use over 20 different portals to register these. Each manufacturer uses a different system.

    We have an internal program where all the details about the product are entered. everything must be entered manually into the manufacturer's portal.

    Here I see a usefull integration of AI.

    An AI that automatically registers the products with the already available information with the manufacturer would save us a lot of work.

    Integrating the systems into your own system with an AI would also be possible. Tracking packages, delivery confirmation, repair status, assigning cost estimates and invoices.

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  • truemagictruemagic Member
    edited April 13

    I also feel kind of tired working with AI instead of actually feeling relieved by it. I still remember working in the era without AI where you need to google and stackoverflow everything, in the end (yeah it did take a long time) when the work is done, you felt sense of achievement and your boss will compliment for your hardwork.

    Fast forward to now, your non-technical boss will challenge your decisions, your work and your completion time, no matter what. Overall, it just feels like a weird environment to work in. I still have good memories working in the non-AI era where things/resources were a lot slower and limited back then!

  • mafidommafidom Member

    I understand and support IA to be used as a tool to help get things done. But unfortunately corporate doesn't see it that way, they see it as a tool to replace employees. I know of a department of 6 employees that processed documents they brought this new AI tool to "help", 2 months later after the tool learned the work all 6 employees got fired. From time to time the AI messes up but they rather have that and save money.

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  • slowserversslowservers Member, Host Rep

    I refuse to use it and am not working for anyone who's trying to make me use it.

    It can be annoying nevertheless, with new creative ways to be abusive. I had 60+? servers with AI slop looking websites that appeared legitimate, but were actually just gaining legitimacy while having special phishing URLs. Took me a while to figure out what was going on.

    I've also realized that I have had weird AI written responses when I have questioned (SporeStack) tokens about abuse. They used AI to try and give me a good explanation. It passed at the time, but now I realize that they were having AI answer and it's just much shadier.

  • dbadudedbadude Member

    My programming skills are practically a worthless asset nowadays. However ai driven programming is my new asset. Dog eat dog

  • I’m not a developer by trade; my role is Senior DevOps Engineer, which in practice means I spend far more time on infrastructure engineering than traditional “dev ops.”

    I work for a national company (with a few international markets) that has a surprisingly mature tech footprint for the industry. We employ around 34,000 people, with roughly 1,500 considered HQ-supported workers.

    GitHub is our version control system, and because of investor pressure, we lean heavily into Microsoft products. Recently, our digital team (ie website) has started strongly encouraging and in some cases, outright requiring teams to integrate AI tools into their workflows.

    For me, this is a welcome shift. Over the past four years, I’ve been using AI outside the company (with anonymized data) to complete work that would normally take an entire sprint in just a few hours. AI has been a massive force multiplier, not a threat. Most engineers I know aren’t using it to mindlessly generate code; they’re using it to eliminate the tedious parts so they can focus on the hard, creative, high‑impact problems.

    Will AI eventually replace parts of my job? Probably. But not the parts that matter. Anyone can burn money in AWS. It takes real engineering skill to deliver the same results at a fraction of the cost. That kind of creativity isn’t something you can automate away at this time.

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  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @FAT32 said: What concerns me is how many leaders are getting so delusional that believe AI is the silver bullet that can be used to replace most developers or magically fix complex problems.

    Yes / No, and it truly depends.

    AI will not replace a senior DEV or Engineer, it will replace a Junior one yes, altho that is not entirely true also. It really depends on specifics.

    AI is a great tool, it can save you many hours, yet, it lacks "creation" skills, it does not think, it executes based on a complex math model.

    So will it replace humans 100% - nahh, we are definitely not there yet. Will it replace boring automation task - yapp, 100%, yet that was already in place long before AI, so nothing new here. ( IFTT )

    Does AI help out in complex situations that would require a lot of time to red thru hounded of pages searching for a wrong placed comma or a logic fault? - yes, mostly. Yet, it cannot create what you wish, it can only give you options based on how specific your input is.

    Is the whole AI misunderstood by CEO's and other top management executives? Oh yeah, it is, most do think that AI will solve what thei'r dev team could not in 5 years, yet, that is an issue a quality people versus management irealistic expectations not an AI versus Human issue. But who can explain this to them?

    I really think the industry where people think AI will be much better then people has to fail and fall to rock button until a balance will be made.

    You cannot replace experience and creation with a math equation, altho there might be niche fields where you can, for example complex surgery to be done by robotics + AI, I would trust a precise instrument for brain surgery rather then a well trained surgeon that had a fight in the morning with the wife. :D :D :D

    I really think that this AI will take away our jobs is a bit over inflated and blown out of proportions. But in the same time I do find use for it in some fields, but not all.

    A symbiosis in my view is much better, it is a tool, and if you use the right tool with the right people for a job, then that is perfect, yet, perfection is far from where we stand today.

    This is my 2c on the matter.

    Cheers!

  • ralfralf Member

    Up until now I've been quite staunchly anti-AI. Was visiting a friend this weekend whose company has forced them into being AI shepherds rather than coders themselves. They now seem to spend most of their time just reviewing stuff the AI has done rather than writing code themselves, and more hilariously passing on bitchy comments from one person's claude about another person's claude's code and how it needs to be changed.

    He seems very demoralised by work since this has taken place, to the extent that he's now looking for alternative jobs where he might be able to use his skills again, but he's also very aware that the AI has been useful overall in getting stuff done, just not very intellectually rewarding.

    One thing that was interesting to me is because he's got basically unlimited tokens and told by his company that they can use it for their own projects too, he gave me a quick demo of it. He asked to to make a start on a project that's very similar to the one I've been worked on in my spare time, that I plan to release soon. Within an hour, it'd basically got something usable, about in the state mine was in after about the first day of coding right at the start of my project. I didn't so much look at the quality of the code, but was very impressed at how visually appealing the app it created looked, especially considering that I really hate doing UI work as I just find it tedious.

    But just from that example, it's made me consider getting a much cheaper licence and starting to experiment with asking it to do some of the UI gruntwork for me. Its first pass of CSS was pretty good, and when we complained about minor things it did a good job of dealing with them. Even if it's not code I'd use directly to port to my app, I liked the speed of iteration of ideas. I didn't particularly like the artwork it produced in this instance, but quite liked the principle of how it responded to "OK, we'd like a cute SVG animated animal now to give feedback on progress" and it did a pretty good job of it. Its first pace was a face only, and pretty good, it's just what it produced when we asked for the whole body looked a bit rubbish.

    So, TLDR I'm definitely planning to give it a go using my own money soon, rather than being a complete denier before. I don't think I'd ever want to let myself become a slave to it though, which is what happened to the devs in my friend's company. I guess running my own company gives me that flexibility to just go back to regular coding if that's more fun.

    The only thing that's worrying me is the costs if I start using it too much. Pulse Media's thing about costing thousands of dollars to support a single ticket seem a bit crazy if you can rack up that kind of bill so easily.

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  • SaahibSaahib Host Rep, Veteran
    edited April 13

    Given nature of our work where there is no coding, mostly sysadmin work, this has been good, helps saving time a lot for references. However, irritating part is that now clients first try things on their own using AI (sometimes breaking more), even suggesting solution using AI and acting as if they have cracked it.

    Here, I am waiting next generation to be dumber and more dumber as they rely on AI. I belive we will be the last generation to actually know how to do things.

  • ralfralf Member

    Reading that back now, I was definitely still not awake when I wrote that! So many typos, doh!

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @ralf said:
    Reading that back now, I was definitely still not awake when I wrote that! So many typos, doh!

    Should have use AI for proofreading, doh

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  • ralfralf Member

    @rpqu said:

    @ralf said:
    Reading that back now, I was definitely still not awake when I wrote that! So many typos, doh!

    Should have use AI for proofreading, doh

    OK, you got it! -- I'll take that suggestion on board!

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • AndreiSSLAndreiSSL Member
    edited April 13

    AI is a very good co-worker (when write good code :D). I use Cursor and Claude at my main job and helps a lot when I need to write Terraform code to build AWS infra (ex a new EKS cluster) and especially where I have no experience (like I build from scratch a complete working monitoring and logging stack based on Grafana, Prometheus and Kibana in Aws EKS). But the side effect is that too much info at once can easily over burn you. But, just take it slowly, step by step and at the end will be fine. Enjoy the ride, not the end ;).

  • @ralf said:
    Up until now I've been quite staunchly anti-AI. Was visiting a friend this weekend whose company has forced them into being AI shepherds rather than coders themselves. They now seem to spend most of their time just reviewing stuff the AI has done rather than writing code themselves, and more hilariously passing on bitchy comments from one person's claude about another person's claude's code and how it needs to be changed.

    He seems very demoralised by work since this has taken place, to the extent that he's now looking for alternative jobs where he might be able to use his skills again, but he's also very aware that the AI has been useful overall in getting stuff done, just not very intellectually rewarding.

    One thing that was interesting to me is because he's got basically unlimited tokens and told by his company that they can use it for their own projects too, he gave me a quick demo of it. He asked to to make a start on a project that's very similar to the one I've been worked on in my spare time, that I plan to release soon. Within an hour, it'd basically got something usable, about in the state mine was in after about the first day of coding right at the start of my project. I didn't so much look at the quality of the code, but was very impressed at how visually appealing the app it created looked, especially considering that I really hate doing UI work as I just find it tedious.

    But just from that example, it's made me consider getting a much cheaper licence and starting to experiment with asking it to do some of the UI gruntwork for me. Its first pass of CSS was pretty good, and when we complained about minor things it did a good job of dealing with them. Even if it's not code I'd use directly to port to my app, I liked the speed of iteration of ideas. I didn't particularly like the artwork it produced in this instance, but quite liked the principle of how it responded to "OK, we'd like a cute SVG animated animal now to give feedback on progress" and it did a pretty good job of it. Its first pace was a face only, and pretty good, it's just what it produced when we asked for the whole body looked a bit rubbish.

    So, TLDR I'm definitely planning to give it a go using my own money soon, rather than being a complete denier before. I don't think I'd ever want to let myself become a slave to it though, which is what happened to the devs in my friend's company. I guess running my own company gives me that flexibility to just go back to regular coding if that's more fun.

    The only thing that's worrying me is the costs if I start using it too much. Pulse Media's thing about costing thousands of dollars to support a single ticket seem a bit crazy if you can rack up that kind of bill so easily.

    How do you verify and secure those black-box outputs? Companies are already struggling to find engineers to review the explosion of AI-written code.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • ralfralf Member
    edited April 13

    @stable_genius said:

    @ralf said:
    Up until now I've been quite staunchly anti-AI. Was visiting a friend this weekend whose company has forced them into being AI shepherds rather than coders themselves. They now seem to spend most of their time just reviewing stuff the AI has done rather than writing code themselves, and more hilariously passing on bitchy comments from one person's claude about another person's claude's code and how it needs to be changed.

    He seems very demoralised by work since this has taken place, to the extent that he's now looking for alternative jobs where he might be able to use his skills again, but he's also very aware that the AI has been useful overall in getting stuff done, just not very intellectually rewarding.

    One thing that was interesting to me is because he's got basically unlimited tokens and told by his company that they can use it for their own projects too, he gave me a quick demo of it. He asked to to make a start on a project that's very similar to the one I've been worked on in my spare time, that I plan to release soon. Within an hour, it'd basically got something usable, about in the state mine was in after about the first day of coding right at the start of my project. I didn't so much look at the quality of the code, but was very impressed at how visually appealing the app it created looked, especially considering that I really hate doing UI work as I just find it tedious.

    But just from that example, it's made me consider getting a much cheaper licence and starting to experiment with asking it to do some of the UI gruntwork for me. Its first pass of CSS was pretty good, and when we complained about minor things it did a good job of dealing with them. Even if it's not code I'd use directly to port to my app, I liked the speed of iteration of ideas. I didn't particularly like the artwork it produced in this instance, but quite liked the principle of how it responded to "OK, we'd like a cute SVG animated animal now to give feedback on progress" and it did a pretty good job of it. Its first pace was a face only, and pretty good, it's just what it produced when we asked for the whole body looked a bit rubbish.

    So, TLDR I'm definitely planning to give it a go using my own money soon, rather than being a complete denier before. I don't think I'd ever want to let myself become a slave to it though, which is what happened to the devs in my friend's company. I guess running my own company gives me that flexibility to just go back to regular coding if that's more fun.

    The only thing that's worrying me is the costs if I start using it too much. Pulse Media's thing about costing thousands of dollars to support a single ticket seem a bit crazy if you can rack up that kind of bill so easily.

    How do you verify and secure those black-box outputs? Companies are already struggling to find engineers to review the explosion of AI-written code.

    I guess just do a regular code review and see if it's sane.

    I'm only planning to use it mostly for UI, as that's something that I find pretty tedious myself. I think the main risk is for any UI it generates too look too generic.

    I might also get it to create some REST endpoints / REST client code if it's sufficiently good at copying the style of my existing code, which I'm happy with the security with and it shouldn't be able to break too badly as there's a single function that returns the user ID after validating and decoding the auth token from the header and throws an exception if it's invalid/missing. But actually, I find that stuff pretty quick to do myself anyway, so I'm not too fussed if it's bad at that, but definitely UI stuff would be good.

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  • @ralf said:
    One thing that was interesting to me is because he's got basically unlimited tokens and told by his company that they can use it for their own projects too

    That's generally so they can own your idea worked on using their resources and time paid by them. It's a trap.

  • @stable_genius said:
    We have already entered the Era of Code Decline because AI is poisoning the well by killing new code contributions. Thanks to AI the code base most people will be using is one that has been frozen before 2026.

    Open Source is being killed by AI, from now on new quality code will be found primarily in closed source projects not in open source. Open Source is dead.

    I need AI to figure out whatever it is you write. Ah forget it, I don't care.

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited April 13

    @TimboJones said:

    @stable_genius said:
    We have already entered the Era of Code Decline because AI is poisoning the well by killing new code contributions. Thanks to AI the code base most people will be using is one that has been frozen before 2026.

    Open Source is being killed by AI, from now on new quality code will be found primarily in closed source projects not in open source. Open Source is dead.

    I need AI to figure out whatever it is you write. Ah forget it, I don't care.

    Of course you don't, there's plenty of stuff you don't care, no problem with that, it's not the stuff's fault,

    Perhaps you need to increase your working memory capacity, it should help.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited April 14

    I do not use ai at all and would refuse if asked to use ai. But: the kind of work I mostly do and the field I work in is pretty much out of reach for ai anyway.

    And to be perfectly honest I hardly feel pity for most of the developers who are being replaced by ai or, far worse, becoming servants to the ai for a good reason: a very significant part of those being called (or calling themselves) "developers" are not real developers (but rather amateurs at best); and very many chose IT for a profession not because it was their thing, interest, and passion but rather because it was in demand and payed well.

    Yes, granted, there is lots of boilerplate code, (G)UI stuff (also basically boilerplate in large part), and boring standard stuff (like file or socket handling) which might be done by some junior dev - or an ai nowadays. But neither the work done by N. Wirth nor that by E. Dijkstra nor that by B. Meyer could be done by an ai. Because the 'i' in ai is a blunt lie but also because an ai is not an engineer, it just can't approach a problem like an engineer. In fact I do not know of a single relevant library in crypto and more generally in the core fields developped/written by ai; quite the contrary, great care is taken to keep ai away!

    And then there is the other very major problem caused by ai: people getting ever dumber and the education systems getting even worse than they already are. Nowadays the question "which is the smallest prime number between 15 and 20" poses an insurmountable problem to many "engineers" (smartphone not allowed).

    My advice to real engineers is to not give in (or up) but rather to learn even more, preferably related to math and/or the core of CS.
    Also: hold through! ai sooner rather than later will be a bursting bubble and/or basically kill itself (by digesting ai feces) and then the relatively few intelligent and knowledgeable humans we still have will be in very high demand.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @stable_genius said:
    We have already entered the Era of Code Decline because AI is poisoning the well by killing new code contributions. Thanks to AI the code base most people will be using is one that has been frozen before 2026.

    Open Source is being killed by AI, from now on new quality code will be found primarily in closed source projects not in open source. Open Source is dead.

    I need AI to figure out whatever it is you write. Ah forget it, I don't care.

    Cal.com Is Going Closed Source Because of AI

    How about trying to figure that one out?

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