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Falsely terminated for “abuse” by c-servers — RIP to my first VPS

The very first VPS I ever bought, originally after lurking on NodeSeek, has just been terminated by c-servers over what I believe are false abuse allegations.

Back then I was completely new to this hobby and had no idea what I was doing. I saw c-servers offering a US VPS for $3.55 / 3 years, thought it was absurdly cheap, and bought it without much research. The experience seemed decent at first, so I later added a UK VPS for $8 / 3 years under the same account.

At the time I was genuinely excited about those little boxes. I even used them to learn how to deploy monitoring agents like Nezha and ServerStatus.

As time went on, I picked up more servers and those first two c-servers VPSes ended up mostly forgotten. They were basically idle and sitting there doing nothing.

A few days ago, I noticed on my monitoring dashboard that the US VPS had been offline for quite a while. Then I learned that c-servers had terminated a batch of servers for “abuse.” I still did not think it had anything to do with my account, because those VPSes were barely being used.

Then I received a rather absurd email demanding KYC. I was angry enough that I went to the forums to complain. Later, they walked that back and said KYC would no longer be required, which gave me a bit of hope.

That hope ended today.

I received another email accusing me of abuse, and c-servers terminated both of my VPSes. No meaningful explanation, no convincing evidence, just both services gone.

What bothers me most is not even the value of the servers themselves. These were tiny cheap VPSes, and I have other boxes now. What bothers me is that this was my first VPS ever, and it ended like this.

So this post is partly a memorial to my first VPS, and partly a reminder to myself of a few rules I should have followed from the start:
1. Stay away from shady or deadpool-bound providers.
2. Do not keep multiple services under a setup where one ban can wipe everything out.
3. Always pay with PayPal.

RIP to my first VPS.

Thanked by 1Starnberg

Comments

  • RubbenRubben Member

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Quite a few complaints about C-Servers lately. I hope this recent mess won't start smelling as a deadpool.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @default said:
    Quite a few complaints about C-Servers lately. I hope this recent mess won't start smelling as a deadpool.

    One server got terminated by @DartNode apparently.
    Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them, they think for some reason complaining on LET will solve their issue.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @Neoon said:

    @default said:
    Quite a few complaints about C-Servers lately. I hope this recent mess won't start smelling as a deadpool.

    One server got terminated by @DartNode apparently.
    Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them, they think for some reason complaining on LET will solve their issue.

    This cat is curious now: why did @DartNode terminate the service?

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @default said:

    @Neoon said:

    @default said:
    Quite a few complaints about C-Servers lately. I hope this recent mess won't start smelling as a deadpool.

    One server got terminated by @DartNode apparently.
    Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them, they think for some reason complaining on LET will solve their issue.

    This cat is curious now: why did @DartNode terminate the service?

    Apparently, he got like 60 abuses, someone posted the email here.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • TangeTange Member

    $3.5/3y ???? that's why you got tons of abuses

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  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited April 9

    @angstrom, somebody should look into this, because the number of threads/users with these complaints isn’t normal.

    My guess on what has gone wrong:

    A bad actor on a poorly configured server with NAT services:

    1. Changes network configuration to another VPS’s IP and MAC
    2. Starts scanning (e.g., with masscan)
    3. Abuse reports hit the victim IP
    4. C-Servers suspends innocent customers

    Alternatively, they could use ARP poisoning or similar methods to get innocent customers blamed.

    No matter what, this isn’t a normal abuse pattern, and it’s not fair if innocent customers get blamed.

  • @Neoon said: Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them

    Haha! I tried to websearch it ( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/174450/who-is-mjj ). What is MJJ really?

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  • xvpsxvps Member

    @roblowend said:

    @Neoon said: Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them

    Haha! I tried to websearch it ( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/174450/who-is-mjj ). What is MJJ really?

    Michael Joseph Jackson

  • zedzed Member

    @xvps said:

    @roblowend said:

    @Neoon said: Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them

    Haha! I tried to websearch it ( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/174450/who-is-mjj ). What is MJJ really?

    Michael Joseph Jackson

    who's bad

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  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited April 9

    @roblowend said:

    @Neoon said: Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them

    Haha! I tried to websearch it ( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/174450/who-is-mjj ). What is MJJ really?

    I once had the same doubt and investigated. It is a term that started being used by chinese users but is now being used by many people here on LET. MJJ means a user who buys a low end very cheap service but expects high end performance.

  • @stable_genius said: MJJ means a user who buys a low end very cheap service but expects high end performance.

    Cheers

  • zedzed Member

    @stable_genius said:

    @roblowend said:

    @Neoon said: Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them

    Haha! I tried to websearch it ( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/174450/who-is-mjj ). What is MJJ really?

    I once had the same doubt and investigated. It is a term that started being used by chinese users but is now being used by many people here on LET. MJJ means a user who buys a low end very cheap service but expects high end performance.

    I'm not sure we needed a special term for "customer" but whatever.

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  • @stable_genius said: I once had the same doubt and investigated. It is a term that started being used by chinese users but is now being used by many people here on LET. MJJ means a user who buys a low end very cheap service but expects high end performance.

    Personally I always thought that MJJ meant a chinese customer and that was how I have seen the word being used around.

    I don't think that there is a proper definition of the word MJJ though. It just exists within the common plane of existence as Lowendtalk and maybe nodeseek etc. and comes and goes from existence and changes its meaning xD

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited April 9

    @zed said:

    @stable_genius said:

    @roblowend said:

    @Neoon said: Which apparently had a lot of MJJ's on them

    Haha! I tried to websearch it ( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/174450/who-is-mjj ). What is MJJ really?

    I once had the same doubt and investigated. It is a term that started being used by chinese users but is now being used by many people here on LET. MJJ means a user who buys a low end very cheap service but expects high end performance.

    I'm not sure we needed a special term for "customer" but whatever.

    Customer of a service who is a user of LET. MJJ is used on LET and applies to users of LET not to customers of LET.

    Subtle, I know, but significant.

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited April 9

    @whynotlearn said:
    Personally I always thought that MJJ meant a chinese customer and that was how I have seen the word being used around.

    Nowadays it is used to label anyone who pays little but expects a lot, chinese or not.

    From what I've learned MJJ is very common in chinese forums and mildly common in LET.

  • @stable_genius said: Nowadays it is used to label anyone who pays little but expects a lot, chinese or not.

    Ah I guess I am still using the word in the previous manner.

    To be honest, feels a bit wrong then to call everyone MJJ then, I mean "a lot" is a very subjective thing then I guess, not-sure.

    At this point I guess we are calling everyone at LET an MJJ xD

  • @whynotlearn said:

    @stable_genius said: Nowadays it is used to label anyone who pays little but expects a lot, chinese or not.

    Ah I guess I am still using the word in the previous manner.

    To be honest, feels a bit wrong then to call everyone MJJ then, I mean "a lot" is a very subjective thing then I guess, not-sure.

    At this point I guess we are calling everyone at LET an MJJ xD

    You are not MJJ if you set your expectations correctly, most users of LET are not MJJ only a few are. MJJs are mostly noobs.

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  • Then there's the Anti-MJJ, which means someone who pays a lot but feel happy getting very little in return, that's the case of people who pay a lot for AI services only to get slop in return. Those are commonly known as fucking idiots and are easy to find in Finland.

    Thanked by 1whynotlearn
  • A lot of irrelevant paragraphs without including the specific abuse reports. Waste of everyone's time.

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