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C-Servers VPS Suspended Without Notice – Beware Before Buying

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  • barbarosbarbaros Member

    Pushing KYC for refunds is the most stupid “idea” ever. Congrats who come up with that “idea”.

    If you don’t want to keep a customer for whatever reason, give them the refund and move on. Else they will push for chargeback and one way or another get it after proving that they are not getting any service for their payment.

  • zedzed Member

    @alfatarsos said: KYC for refunds will allow to protect the present customers because the abusers will tend to not want to complete KYC on this instance, as they will naturally get exposed, whereas the regular customer that simply wishes to continue to have usable amounts and purchase services that they need will complete it.

    So you're punishing all of your customers in a witch hunt to find whoever is responsible for the portscanning and as an added bonus you get free money from anyone who doesn't care to be involved in the scheme. Nicely played!

  • @alfatarsos said:
    If DartNode is willing to reconsider on their final posture, and work together with me to fix the issues at hand, I'll be happy to do it and get users a restored service as soon as possible - and everyone gets 2x the number of days the service was down, as a compensation for the lack of service.

    @DartNode?

  • This is a scam; they force KYC (Know Your Customer) verification, but they haven't provided any instructions on how to do so.

  • sonialoksonialok Member

    Well. I got few servers terminated from them without any warnings whatsoever (They said they sent a warning mail for FUP violation but I neither received any mails nor I can see in the dashboard anything related to that warning at all). And no refunds either.

    I am running a screenshot service and the fleet was managed by ai agent. Apparently they cancelled one server first due to continuous sustained cpu usage and because of that cancellation, the workload redistributed on other vps and the cpu usage increased on other vpses so they cancelled them too - a domino effect.

    I was careless in not reading the FUP with a finetooth but then I was running these vps since an year or two (mostly idling) and the expectations was things would be informed incase any issues were there and not just terminated without any warnings (or even opportunity to take backups).

    So read what you can into it before using them. Since that incident I am reading FUP more carefully for all providers here and even asking them before ordering anything but still sometimes things can go wrong and hopefully the providers will reach out for any such issues rather than assuming bad intentions.

  • sanderowsanderow Member
    edited April 3

    I just received an email too.

    Failure to pass KYC:
    will render all services you have at C-Servers terminated without any possible refund >anywhere - not only Zeta.10 Houston servers but the other servers as well.

    This is robbery!

  • tempasktempask Member
    edited April 3

    @sonialok said: Well. I got few servers terminated from them without any warnings whatsoever (They said they sent a warning mail for FUP violation but I neither received any mails nor I can see in the dashboard anything related to that warning at all). And no refunds either.

    same for me, no received any message/email, as I know 1st someone found his vps can't work , then send worknote to c-server, and get it's reply, know server status, send these info to some forum, then I know my (vps run) service why not work.

    Besides, relying on KYC to identify people who are up to no good—how is that even possible? If Dartnode had kept relevant records and handed them over, there might be a chance to track down those involved. What good is KYC? You get everyone’s face, ID number, and so on (or give them to anyone else)—does that let you tell which ones carried out the DDoS attacks?

  • maxxxxxmaxxxxx Member
    edited April 3

    @alfatarsos said:
    By not having access to the server when attacks or abuses like these occur, and most especially not providing any technical evidence on the matter, theoretically anyone can be suspended or terminated at DartNode if they do so choose, for any reason, and no one can assess whether it's true or false. I'm as well also unable to check any logs for who possibly had caused these issues at the server, in order to filter the abusers from the normal users, and proceed accordingly, since server access was cut.

    It's an incorrect procedure in my point of view, through and through. Excessive.

    That's why it has to go like this, with KYC. I have to protect the present customers. I can assure this was the only service with DartNode, and other dedicated servers of the Zeta or Delta series are not with them.

    It is your responsibility to have a valid contract with your sub-processor DartNode for them to help you with investigating such matters. Doing intrusive KYC checks with highly questionable effectiveness is not the right thing to do.

    DartNode could be hacked. You could be hacked. The customer could be hacked. IP address can be spoofed. And KYC will not help with either of those.

    @alfatarsos said:

    • The KYC company used will be Didit, which has been already used by other providers before. We're using no additional data and we're sticking with the existing data for the compliance.
    • I can extract directly from the billing system database the list of users associated with the server and their corresponding plans (which were three).

    It's not GDPR compliant to use data collected for a specific purpose like billing and perform additional processing for something else. You generally need to collect consent again to use the data for some other purpose.

    @alfatarsos said:

    • Didit is EU GDPR, UK GDPR and ISO 27001 compliant as well as iBeta-L1 certified for biometric compliance.

    Even their website is not GDPR compliant as it's placing unncessary cookies all over the place. Not to mention your website as well.

    @alfatarsos said:

    • KYC for refunds will allow to protect the present customers because the abusers will tend to not want to complete KYC on this instance, as they will naturally get exposed, whereas the regular customer that simply wishes to continue to have usable amounts and purchase services that they need will complete it. I'll also do manual analysis on KYC requests on top of that, and prior to doing anything else with them.

    You're making a lot of assumptions out of thin air. Many people will not do KYC because of the risk of their data being leaked (you can buy plenty of those already on the black market). If a customer of yours was hacked even if he does KYC he will still be hacked. Assumption that the abuser will not want to complete KYC is funny as well as he can just claim he had no idea and he was hacked, so can you prove otherwise?

  • Pushing KYC for refunds> @barbaros said:

    Pushing KYC for refunds is the most stupid “idea” ever. Congrats who come up with that “idea”.

    "and prior to any refund to account credit'

    The wall of text mail did make it very clear it is not planned to refund at all but to give out storage vouchers instead.

    Well, for this reason credit card charge back exists.

  • So glad I didn't go for C-Servers and waited around to find a better option elsewhere, you'll find similar threads for C-Servers on Reddit as well.

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  • To be honest, I know asking for support on ultra-low-end NAT deals can feel a bit "offensive" given the price. That’s why I’ve never even opened a single ticket; whenever the server went down, I chose to wait patiently instead of complaining. I only use my 3-year NAT plans in Finland and Germany as probe nodes, nothing mission-critical. However, over time, I noticed the CPU and disk performance started to tank—eventually dropping by more than half compared to when I first signed up. I stayed quiet as long as the SLA remained stable.
    But this recent incident has me worried. With NAT, it's inevitable that some bad actors might cause trouble, and it's unfair for others to be penalized. I paid for 3 years, but I'm afraid of a "forced exit" in less than one. If they just "refund to balance," I’ll be stuck with credit for expensive services I don't even want. It feels like a bait-and-switch. I really hope it doesn't come to that.

  • @Fubukibox said:
    chatgpt ahh post

    yes

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 4

    @alfatarsos said: Didit is EU GDPR, UK GDPR and ISO 27001 compliant as well as iBeta-L1 certified for biometric compliance.

    And, like all "biometric providers", they get hacked.

    Compliance protects them from lawsuits, not you from identity theft.

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 4

    @zed said: @alfatarsos said: KYC for refunds will allow to protect the present customers because the abusers will tend to not want to complete KYC on this instance, as they will naturally get exposed, whereas the regular customer that simply wishes to continue to have usable amounts and purchase services that they need will complete it.

    What the fuck? You're completely ignoring the sizable portion of non-abusive customers who are unwilling to do surprise KYC. Of course, you'll just assume that anyone refusing KYC is an abuser, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    This reeks of "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".¹

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @forest said:

    @alfatarsos said: Didit is EU GDPR, UK GDPR and ISO 27001 compliant as well as iBeta-L1 certified for biometric compliance.

    And, like all "biometric providers", they get hacked.

    Compliance protects them from lawsuits, not you from identity theft.

    If the biometric provider doesn't have multimillion bounty pot (with different tier), I don't feel safe

  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited April 4

    from the link:

    Attack detected by Fortinet - file_transfer: Eicar.Virus.Test.File - 2026-03-26 03:24:28 - Source Port 12345

    .

    2026-03-26 10:19:41 service="HTTP" srcip=149.112.84.49 srcport=12345 dstport=8000 filename="upload.exe" virus="EICAR_TEST_FILE" 2026-03-26 10:19:41 service="HTTP" srcip=149.112.84.49 srcport=12345 dstport=443 filename="upload.exe" virus="EICAR_TEST_FILE" 2026-03-26 10:19:41 service="HTTP" srcip=149.112.84.49 srcport=12345 dstport=3128 filename="upload.exe" virus="EICAR_TEST_FILE" 2026-03-26 10:19:41 service="HTTP" srcip=149.112.84.49 srcport=12345 dstport=80 filename="upload.exe" virus="EICAR_TEST_FILE"

    from eicar.org:

    The EICAR_TEST_FILE is a harmless, 68-byte file designed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research (EICAR) to safely test antivirus (AV) software functionality without using real malware. It consists of printable ASCII characters and is recognized by most security products as a threat, allowing users to verify detection, quarantine, and alerting capabilities.

    The best suspension reason ever! :D

  • forestforest Member

    @xvps said:

    from the link:

    Attack detected by Fortinet - file_transfer: Eicar.Virus.Test.File - 2026-03-26 03:24:28 - Source Port 12345

    from eicar.org:

    The EICAR_TEST_FILE is a harmless, 68-byte file designed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research (EICAR) to safely test antivirus (AV) software functionality without using real malware. It consists of printable ASCII characters and is recognized by most security products as a threat, allowing users to verify detection, quarantine, and alerting capabilities.

    The best suspension reason ever! :D

    That's a bullshit detection for another reason: The EICAR test file is required to only be detected if it exists alone in a 68-byte file. Thus it is not supposed to be detected as a substring or in networking traffic.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @forest said:

    @xvps said:

    from the link:

    Attack detected by Fortinet - file_transfer: Eicar.Virus.Test.File - 2026-03-26 03:24:28 - Source Port 12345

    from eicar.org:

    The EICAR_TEST_FILE is a harmless, 68-byte file designed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research (EICAR) to safely test antivirus (AV) software functionality without using real malware. It consists of printable ASCII characters and is recognized by most security products as a threat, allowing users to verify detection, quarantine, and alerting capabilities.

    The best suspension reason ever! :D

    That's a bullshit detection for another reason: The EICAR test file is required to only be detected if it exists alone in a 68-byte file. Thus it is not supposed to be detected as a substring or in networking traffic.

    Just internet's magic

  • zedzed Member

    !topic Danger C-Servers Blatant Scam Theft of Funds Avoid Avoid

  • xvpsxvps Member

    Kind of funny, 149.112.84.57 (same subnet) is also offline and was hosting my.moudler.com (behind Cloudflare), which browsers block for phishing, yet the IP is clean on AbuseIPDB.

    Looks like DartNode might have done some spring cleaning.

  • xaocxaoc Member

    Why is this provider not banned yet?

  • zbezbe Member

    Why is KYC required for all accounts? KYC wasn't required at the time of purchase. Houston is willing to continue service if KYC is completed, if not, the remaining value should be refunded. Why is account ownership being forced in all regions, and why is there no refund upon failure? Is there a le

  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited April 4

    @zbe said:
    Why is KYC required for all accounts? KYC wasn't required at the time of purchase. Houston is willing to continue service if KYC is completed, if not, the remaining value should be refunded. Why is account ownership being forced in all regions, and why is there no refund upon failure? Is there a le

    As I understand it, several of you abused the services, which led to an entire dedicated server being suspended by C-Servers’ upstream provider.

    To avoid a whack-a-mole situation, where more servers are suspended, more innocent clients are affected, and C-Servers lose more money, they now require KYC from everyone.

  • Why is KYC required for all accounts?

    For the moral standing, to not even have to account credits back, for all that don't comply.

    KYC wasn't required at the time of purchase.

    Because this would have cost money, as less would have jumped over this hurdle.

    why is there no refund upon failure?

    There is still no refund planned for anybody, it's only store credits...

  • zedzed Member

    @Ananchoreta said: There is still no refund planned for anybody, it's only store credits...

    I missed that, this crook doesn't miss a trick.

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  • zbezbe Member

    @Ananchoreta said:

    Why is KYC required for all accounts?

    For the moral standing, to not even have to account credits back, for all that don't comply.

    KYC wasn't required at the time of purchase.

    Because this would have cost money, as less would have jumped over this hurdle.

    why is there no refund upon failure?

    There is still no refund planned for anybody, it's only store credits...

    If you want to abuse the system, go open new accounts or join new servers; involving existing users will ruin the user base's reputation, making new users afraidto purchase. Abuse is not limited to c-servers alone; please do not do this. KYC cannot prevent abuse; an account growth and reputation system should be

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @xaoc said:
    Why is this provider not banned yet?

    @alfatarsos 🚩 Host Rep Suspended
    … for sudden KYC and refuse to refund on service failure.

    @DartNode 🚩 Patron Provider Suspended
    … for terminating server based on false evidence.
    Note: we have DartNode VPS for hosting Freaky Fast Digital Coma artwork in honor of Daniel the data center tech and his 14-hour grind, but we cannot support DartNode business practice.

    @angstrom please consider.

    Thanked by 2suyadi92 Xrmaddness
  • ralfralf Member

    @zed said:
    I don't understand why kyc for refund, is that just a blatant attempt to steal money from people that paid them?

    Maybe they can get more selling the KYC documentation on the black market than the refund amount costs them?

  • keoirkeoir Member, Host Rep

    I took a look at the abuse case we have opened about this. It seems you had one abuse case opened on Mar 26, 2026. You self-resolved it in our portal and affirmed that the issue was resolved and fixed. Case #A-23099-7918

    We then got an additional abuse report from our upstream provider for the same abuse reason (port scanning), the system then suspended your service for Case #A-23104-7918 on that same day, but around an hour later.

    Since the abusedb is showing a fair amount of abuse entries, our system did not allow you to self-resolve, but placed the case in admin review.

    We have a special abuse tag for other hosts, but we were not aware, and I could not find in any tickets that you let us know that would allow us to handle this differently. I will say, as our upstream and IP owners tell us, you're ultimately responsible for what people do with the IP you give them.

    I have released the admin hold on the service, and it is active now. You also have a past-due balance with us, so make sure to take care of that to keep the service online.

    If you can open a ticket and we're happy to add the tag as a hosting provider, but we just need that in a ticket :smile:

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