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is famesystems a sinking ship?
hyperblast
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first, the good news. @famesystems went back online here on April 1, 2026, after being absent for over half a year.
still, it makes sense to take a closer look at @famesystems in the light of day.
as mentioned, famesystems has really stood out here for its complete absence. the last reaction/post was from july 2025. otherwise, no deals, no black friday, no christmas deals, and still no easter offers. on the positive side, however, i must report that my vps running there is consistently stable and performs well—that’s very encouraging.
research has now revealed that famesystems has moved from hengersberg, bavaria, to bremen (a socialistic shithole in northern germany). why and how this happened isn’t clear to me at the moment. the legal structures were established and implemented in recent weeks. i can’t say what this means for the future or whether the new management there will act differently. it remains to be seen, and it would be very refreshing if @famesystems could comment on these developments.
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Is (insert most random small nugu company nobody ever heard of) a sinking ship?
@JohnFilch123 go tell him
I left them because they haven't fixed the SSL certificate in Looking Glass for a year and the Quality management Girl is now CEO.
Probrably the opposite. I'd be more concerned of providers that post offers in here every second week.
an interesting perspective that has merit. maybe i’ve been too critical of famesystems
For some LET is everything, for others like a side request.
prove it that youre not gonna deadpool by giving me 15000usd in account credits
more details please. i don't want to bore the geeks here with documents from handelsregister.de (which hardly anyone understands anyway).
Sommerzeit ist Sparzeit!
What will happen if one gives a gay man 15 000 american dollars?
Is this a crash out?
come on... why leave beautiful hengersberg for bremen?!
@Rubben is gay
But not for @FameSystems
anyway teh ceo is to hot for emgh!?
You should learn to read Handelsregister or companyhouse properly.
Daniels buddy is Renè. And Renès mother (?) is from Bremen and Kommanditistin since 2024 or so.
Jamie now also might be "CEO" but is not listed as shareholder.
Bremen probably is just for taxes or office or whatever.
Oh, and that they don't offer much around here anymore is actually a rather good sign. Guess they learned pretty damn quick that this audience here, is not a good target group for sustainable businesses.
Only ressource hungry cheapskates that often enough demand a lot of support.
falzo the official spokesperson for famesystems
your assessment might be spot on. still, i was worried about famesystems. however, your speculations about why it’s bremen now and no longer the lovely hengersberg are worthless, because you don’t know either, and the famesystems-representative is keeping quiet on the matter.
No worries, we are doing well, more follow up on this very soon.
Can confirm. I was a business customer with a simple request: stop charging German VAT on my invoices - my company is UK-based with a valid VAT ID, and there was no way to enter it in their dashboard.
I raised four tickets over the course of a year (Nov 2024 – Sep 2025). All were auto-closed without any response. The one meaningful reply I got was from their CTO in May 2025 saying it was "in the next sprint." It never happened. A trainee later admitted he wasn't sure if it had been resolved. Spoiler: it hadn't.
The server was stable, I'll give them that. But their support doesn't exist in any meaningful sense. I left because I couldn't trust them to even issue a correct invoice, let alone fix anything.
Sure, but your account would be blocked from purchasing or renewing anything.
Would you like the credits?
you just lost lube privileges for when im fisting you
We don't do fisting.
We push you into mud pit, where the mud serves as natural lube.
Have fun at laundry.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience, we take this seriously, and your frustration is completely understandable.
First, we want to be upfront: our support response times during that period were unacceptable. Tickets should never be auto-closed without a response, and we're genuinely sorry that happened to you. We've since made changes to how support requests are handled, but that doesn't undo your experience, and we own that. On top of that, our company has grown tremendously during this period, as has our customer base. We’ve had a high volume of inquiries and have been searching for new employees and trainees for quite some time. That’s why it’s possible that your ticket unfortunately got lost in the shuffle which, of course, shouldn’t have happened.
Regarding the VAT issue specifically: we want to provide some transparency on why this turned out to be more complex than a simple toggle.
Since Brexit, the UK is classified as a third country under German tax law. For B2B services like hosting, the place of supply shifts to the customer's location under §3a(2) of the German VAT Act (UStG) which means German VAT should not apply. In principle, this is straightforward.
In practice, however, it's significantly more involved than the standard intra-EU reverse charge that most billing systems are built around. Within the EU, VAT ID validation runs through VIES -> a standardised system that makes automated verification and correct invoicing relatively simple. For third countries like the UK post-Brexit, there is no equivalent system. Proper implementation requires manual verification of the customer's business status, adapted invoicing logic (net invoices with correct legal references instead of EU reverse charge notes), adjusted VAT reporting, and sign-off from our tax advisors all of which need to work correctly from both a legal and a technical standpoint.
As a German GmbH & Co. KG, getting this wrong doesn't just mean an incorrect invoice, it can mean personal liability for unpaid VAT and issues during tax audits. That's not an excuse for the delay, but it is the reason we couldn't simply ship it in a single sprint as our Development-Team was unfortunately communicated to you.
We appreciate that you acknowledged the server stability. That part of our service we do take pride in. But we fully understand that reliable infrastructure means little if basic business processes like correct invoicing aren't handled properly for UK-Businesses.
Office it is then...
If there is complain about change, then it should rather be addressed, why it's not called FameBitch anymore and who in C level was that famous bitch ;-)
wasnt famebitch an ireland po-box company?
Yeah, to limit liability cheap.
using such constructs is/was quite common because cheaper than founding a GmbH with full capital.
best guess is, after mom came up with initial financing it was changed into GmbH & Co KG which allows to not only limit liability externally but also keep internal liabilities up and sorted :-)
You don’t even need a valid VAT ID, as it is after brexit, they should not charge VAT to anyone with British billing address, company or consumer.
It’s so easy and straightforward process…
I'm not sure, how it is in Germany, but I guess it will be similar as in Poland (as the rules are mandated by EU directive), you just put reverse charge on the invoice and it's done.
interesting. do you kyc? if not, i have instantly a uk adress and save 19%.
Nope, I don’t. But I’m coming from a world that focuses on user privacy, therefore especially if you pay in crypto, I have no idea where you are really from
But of course, I believe that users will be honest and you warrant accuracy of your billing address by accepting ToS.
Edit: To provide some clarification, as far as I’m aware, businesses are mandated to have proof of correct VAT rate when they are on OSS scheme (VAT rate based on consumer country), but this proofs can be for example (you need two): billing address, ip address, card/paypal country, technical details (for example language you send in headers) etc, at least one must be derived not from the data directly provided by user.
sure! honest to teh bone!!!11