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Google and Meta to pay millions in damages for user addiction in landmark lawsuit
Not lowend server related, but seem similar update posts here, have a question as i'm EU citizen, in the US does this set precedent? like will this open the flood gate for everyone that wants some free money your court system baffles me
Actually amazed, meta found guilty... very troubling logic don't make a good platform what next sue coca cola too good of a drink?
Quote "Don't blame the parent's it's the platform" after discussing that her under 13 year old daughter was stuck to social media for over 16 hours a day. I'm sorry what 16 hours? how did a corrupt judge give this verdict no parent should allow there child on a device for 16 hours straight, nevermind social media... when did she sleep where was her parent?
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Children are no longer responsibility of parents. Governments nowadays want to limit all internet and all adults on internet to provide their ID, because children have rights on internet. It is not like an adult has the right to impact their child's emotions. Parents are there to keep the children positive and happy through emotional and financial support. Character and discipline are no longer important.
If in Ireland one dares to scream at a child or punish a child in any way that can be considered negative or abusive (even in sound decibels) there is an organisation which has way more power than police called TUSLA who's mission is protecting children and their emotions. If one gets any kind of report at TUSLA, they're in big trouble - it is the most evil way to harm a parent, because one can weaponize the whole irish system against a family, it is that easy.
Nope, sadly.
don't they all run from ireland to avoid taxes? get owned noobs.
anyway aside from that, surely they're just gonna appeal and it'll get tossed.
Moved thread from General to News
This has everything to do with responsability of the parents. People nowadays sue for the most stupid reasons. Kinda reminds me of this case from a couple of years ago where a woman used gorilla glue on her hair and then sued the company for not labeling it as dangerous when used on hair. The world never fails to amaze me, I was thinking nothing can surprise me anymore but here we are.
Apologies, thank you now I know there is News, should of checked feel especially low IQ rn
Instagram and youtube is alleged for design to be addicted to children’s. good decision. some cartoons like cocomelon also should be removed
Only a few millions? To them that's peanuts.
Anyway both google and meta have always been fully aware of the serious pernicious consequences of using their products and both have always felt utterly unconcerned.
Paying those small fines is not the problem, reducing future profits from malicious actions is the real problem.
It's tricky right. Obviously it should be on parents to .. parent, but the reality is this is just a different time.
Global social networks are now the standard and kids are going to be exposed and participate more than any other age bracket. The companies behind these networks are going to engineer their systems to capture and twist brains because that's what they live on, and they're going to target young brains because catch 'em young.
It's predatory as fuck and I don't believe that's not obvious to anyone.
Anyway this ruling will be overturned and the fines might as well be zero for how much they'd hurt these companies if they did end up having to be paid so while it was pleasant to see the headline it's really meaningless except as.. oh, fodder to chat about on your favorite social network.
Derp.
This was one lawsuit. Now the floodgates will open with a zillion other similar lawsuits.
I'm sure the appeal has already been written.
Yes, that's insane. But there are a lot of crappy parents.
Just being a parent is hard enough already, being a parent while having all those tech giants and their infinite money supplies working hard against you and against your kids is just insane.
Sue the crap out of those bastards.
Though, it doesn't mean "iPad kids" parenting are okay.
One must give it to them, operating under fully bought and owned us-american laws but pro-forma being registered as an irish company was a smart move.
WUT? Addicted kids? Well, that's what it was designed and made for. And most lawmakers anywhere didn't care a rat's ass.
Unfortunately, this is the reality in Ireland. It sucks when the government want to be the parents. See how the define emotional abuse which can be easily misinterpreted - https://www.tusla.ie/services/child-protection-welfare/definitions-of-child-abuse/#E
Same applies to the legal system, teenagers are above the law and have a Get Out of Jail Free card.
Can't forget about the hot coffee lawsuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Soon companies should stop manufacturing cars because people get into accidents lol.
As I said the world never fails to amaze me.
That was actually a very reasonable suit, but McDonald's spent millions with PR campaigns to make the suit appear frivolous, and it worked. The coffee was significantly hotter than any other coffee and caused permanent damage, and it was discovered that McDonald's was using such a high temperature because it was cheaper, despite being aware of the risks.
In the end, after compensation reductions, McDonald's only lost a few hours worth of coffee sales and the burn victim had just enough money to hire a full-time nurse to assist her with her injuries (which never healed). I wouldn't call that excessive.
I've found that often when people throw this suit up as an example they don't actually know much about it except McDonald's headlines.
When you turn 13 you'll learn all sorts of new stuff.
Yeah, the classic “you’ll understand when you’re older” is a strong argument.
I get it, the coffee case is more nuanced than the meme version. That still doesn’t mean every lawsuit suddenly becomes reasonable just because it involves a big company.
This one is being framed as “addictive design”, but we’re also talking about a kid allegedly spending insane amounts of time online. At some point that stops being just a tech problem and starts being a parenting problem too.
But sure, let’s pretend companies are now responsible for raising kids. Much easier than expecting parents to do it.
Honestly I was just calling you 12.
Anyway, social networks die if users aren't engaged, it's not rocket surgery. The dynamic is bad for everybody and kids are just more susceptible to the shittery so I applaud the outcome.
I don't think it's realistic for parents to fight social media on their own.
I wouldn't put Gorilla Glue Girl in the same category as Hot Coffee but opinions, whatever.
Nah social media companies are sketch af and definitely consciously manufacturing addiction.
On a related note, I hope X gets sued for this shit some day:
The tweets/DMs are fake and obviously chosen to induce FOMO or curiosity clicks to get people back into the addiction spiral. There's also no way to turn it off without completely disabling X notifications, it's completely separate from their regular notification finetuning.
Agreed.
Gorilla Glue Girl:
Coffee woman: