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About Lifetime VPS

BeanzyBeanzy Member

I don’t know much about the server industry.
Are there any major server companies that offer VPS plans with a one-time payment for lifetime access?
I’ve seen this topic come up a few times, and I’m really curious about it. I’m not considering smaller companies. As for the big ones, I’m willing to pay a bit more.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    Define what is your understanding of "lifetime"

  • BeanzyBeanzy Member

    @plumberg said:
    Define what is your understanding of "lifetime"

    For example, a 80-year service life

  • Such deals usually come around only for special events, e.g. black friday.

  • @ServerBachelor said:
    Such deals usually come around only for special events, e.g. black friday.

    C-servers has some you can buy anytime
    https://web.c-servers.co.uk/category/multivps-one-time-paid-servers

  • farsighterfarsighter Member
    edited March 18

    @plumberg said:
    Define what is your understanding of "lifetime"

    Some providers today define “recurring” as “throughout the entire lifecycle of the product line/server series.”

    There’s no reason “lifetime” wouldn’t be the same marketing spin, an empty promise with zero guarantee 😄

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • BeanzyBeanzy Member

    @farsighter said:

    @plumberg said:
    Define what is your understanding of "lifetime"

    Some providers today define “recurring” as “throughout the entire lifecycle of the product line/server series.”

    There’s no reason “lifetime” wouldn’t be the same marketing spin 😄

    Does that mean they won’t provide service if a product line is discontinued?

  • farsighterfarsighter Member
    edited March 18

    @Beanzy said:

    @farsighter said:

    @plumberg said:
    Define what is your understanding of "lifetime"

    Some providers today define “recurring” as “throughout the entire lifecycle of the product line/server series.”

    There’s no reason “lifetime” wouldn’t be the same marketing spin 😄

    Does that mean they won’t provide service if a product line is discontinued?

    It depends on the fine print, but there’s no chance that any today’s servers serie will still exist in 80 years. They’ll either have to upgrade you for free every few years or find a way to kick you out. If company itself still exists by then...

  • RIYADRIYAD Member, Patron Provider

    If you find a good lifetime deal, please update this thread in the year 2106.

  • BeanzyBeanzy Member

    @RIYAD said:
    If you find a good lifetime deal, please update this thread in the year 2106.

    Okay, be sure to check back then.

  • A lifetime plan is like asking for a lifetime in prison :smile:

  • armandorgarmandorg Member, Host Rep

    @jonesolutions said:
    A lifetime plan is like asking for a lifetime in prison :smile:

    Seems like a good deal.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @armandorg said:

    @jonesolutions said:
    A lifetime plan is like asking for a lifetime in prison :smile:


    Seems like a good deal.

    Wait! There is free VPS in prison? Where do I signup?

  • ServerAstraServerAstra Member, Patron Provider

    Your lifetime or company lifetime? Because there's plenty of lifetime scams out there (market, get prepaid, close company/bankrupt/transfer clients = lifetime nullified).
    This is quite difficult to calculate in terms of risk and/or other issues (not including force majeure).
    Companies in IT industry overall let alone hosting industry don't make risk projections for 5+ years, considering 100 years is completely nuts - whoever promises otherwise is an outright a fraud.

  • zedzed Member

    Didn't we just have this entire conversation in another thread?

  • BeanzyBeanzy Member

    @ServerAstra said:
    Your lifetime or company lifetime? Because there's plenty of lifetime scams out there (market, get prepaid, close company/bankrupt/transfer clients = lifetime nullified).
    This is quite difficult to calculate in terms of risk and/or other issues (not including force majeure).
    Companies in IT industry overall let alone hosting industry don't make risk projections for 5+ years, considering 100 years is completely nuts - whoever promises otherwise is an outright a fraud.

    So I'm wondering if any larger companies do this. Larger companies aren't likely to go out of business easily.

  • I feel like something better might be to invest the money (100-200)$ in a more stable market which can then pay for the 7$/whatever vps that you have.

    And if you wish to support providers, I think that the idea is simple that they run deals with limited stocks on lowendtalk and you can buy them and through the money that you get them, they are also likely to then restock it too/raise their servers.

    Usually, Triannual deals might be the best way imo to really support a server provider/get something similar to lifetime vps. Although I Have seen some 5 year deals but they are usually not worth it and usually triannual deals are something which are tried to be made well worth it by providers so you can maybe even find some really great deals if you genuinely want a vps for 3 years/longer timeframe than the yearly/monthly basis.

    At some point if you want vps's which run for 80 years, I feel like its quite an impossibility partially because you are bound to have some issues and the support system might be one of the most constrained parts within a hosting provider and this is a complaint you see that you either have to buy support additionally etc. too.

    Just my 2 cents

  • ServerAstraServerAstra Member, Patron Provider

    @Beanzy said:

    So I'm wondering if any larger companies do this. Larger companies aren't likely to go out of business easily.

    Larger companies are larger because they don't make unsound financial decisions like this as soon as they do either shareholders will eat the ceo out or they vanish because of poor quarterlies after initial boom.
    Lifetime deal makes sense in shorter period - for example lifetime of the whole infra for the service.
    That's why you can find hosting lifetime - because hosting is easier to oversell as a much better controlled environment.
    VPS lifetime means sometime you'll get a miner or ai cracker next door and that'll be the end of resources.
    Factor in all the possible blackswan events over the years (which haven't happened yet, btw) and no, nobody will touch that with a ten feet pole.
    We've been 28 years in this business and still would pass the lifetime offers: because guess what, the electricity is 5 times the cost of what it was when we started, same for everything else, sans compute itself, even dc-racks and pdus which barely changed technologically cost twice more over the last 10 years. Costs of running the business rose directly (because insurance, gas etc also rose, general inflation is knocking into the triple digit percents atm). Where you optimized with IT is now paid more in tax or austerity measures.

    Get a longer period, ask around from providers directly, some might offer a 5 or 10-year plans.

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  • 80 years is a massive timeframe for anything in IT. Even if a big company stays in business that long, the hardware would have to be replaced at least 10–12 times. Imagine trying to run modern software on a 'lifetime' server from the 90s. it would be basically useless today. Big providers usually avoid these deals because they can't predict electricity and data center costs that far ahead. Honestly, a solid 3-year or 5-year plan is probably the closest thing to 'stable' you can find without it being a huge gamble.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @zed said:
    Didn't we just have this entire conversation in another thread?

    Look into his post history. IYKYK

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